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(260 pts) HQ Squad : 1 COMMANDER CREED (PROXY WITH COMM. W/ POWERSWORD & PLASMA), 1 COLOR SGT KELL, 2 MELTAGUN, 1 MEDIC
(90 pts) Regimental Advisors: 1 ASTROPATH, 1 MASTER OF ORDINANCE, 1 OFFICER OF THE FLEET

(70 pts) Independant Character: 1 PRIMARIS PSYKER

(85 pts) PLATOON COMMAND Squad 1 : 1 COMMANDER W/ POWERSWORD & PLASMA PISTOL, 3 FLAMER, 1 HEAVY FLAMER
(55 pts) Troop Squad 1 : 1 SERGEANT W/ CHAINSWORD, 8 LASGUN, 1 FLAMER
(55 pts) Troop Squad 2 : 1 SERGEANT W/ CHAINSWORD, 8 LASGUN, 1 FLAMER
(105 pts) HEAVY WEAPON Squad 1 : 3 LASCANNON TEAM
(75 pts) HEAVY WEAPON Squad 2 : 3 AUTOCANNON TEAM

(110 pts) ELITE SQUAD : 9 BATTLE PSYKERS W/ OVERSEER

(115 pts) VETERAN Troop Squad 1 : 1 SERGEANT W/ CHAINSWORD, 6 LASGUN, 3 PLASMAGUN
(100 pts) VETERAN Troop Squad 2 : 1 SERGEANT W/ CHAINSWORD, 6 LASGUN, 3 MELTAGUN
(85 pts) VETERAN Troop Squad 3 : 1 SERGEANT W/ CHAINSWORD, 6 LASGUN, 3 GRENADE LAUNCHER

(60 pts) Fast Attack 1 : Scout Sentinel w/ Lascannon & HK Missile
(85 pts) Fast Attack 2 : Armored Sentinel w/ Plasmacannon & HK Missile

(410 pts) Heavy Support 1: 2 LEMAN RUSS W/ LASCANNON, HEAVY BOLTER SPONSONS, PINTLE STORM BOLTER, DOZER BLADE
(440 pts) Heavy Support 1: 2 LEMAN RUSS DEMOLISHERW/ LASCANNON, HEAVY BOLTER SPONSONS, PINTLE STORM BOLTER, DOZER BLADE

Daemonhunter Allies:
(306 pts) Elite Unit: Brother Captain w/ 5 Terminators, 1 w/ Incinerator

(TOTAL : 2506)

what is your total points for you next game is it 2500?

I like the list not sure if you really need the Terminators unless you want them. I would bring a couple of aircraft for what those things cost.

'Ard boyz points is 2500, so thats what I'm aiming for.

I do like the termies, deep strike and their massive damage potential spooks my current opponent, so they always draw insane fire as soon as they appear. But, I'm not married to them.

I think one of the nastiest things in the guard arsenal is those outflanking fliers with misslepods. Dropping pieplates on my marines is just mean. :(

I think its really a nice unit. But in Ard boyz you want to bring as much pain as you can/ and although I like the Termys. I run a squad of 5 in all of my marine Lists. I think you can spend those points better.

Something more like this?



(260 pts) HQ Squad : 1 COMMANDER CREED (PROXY WITH COMM. W/ POWERSWORD & PLASMA), 1 COLOR SGT KELL, 2 MELTAGUN, 1 MEDIC
(60 pts) Regimental Advisors: 1 MASTER OF ORDINANCE, 1 OFFICER OF THE FLEET

(70 pts) Independant Character: 1 PRIMARIS PSYKER

(85 pts) PLATOON COMMAND Squad 1 : 1 COMMANDER W/ POWERSWORD & PLASMA PISTOL, 3 FLAMER, 1 HEAVY FLAMER
(55 pts) Troop Squad 1 : 1 SERGEANT W/ CHAINSWORD, 8 LASGUN, 1 FLAMER
(55 pts) Troop Squad 2 : 1 SERGEANT W/ CHAINSWORD, 8 LASGUN, 1 FLAMER
(105 pts) HEAVY WEAPON Squad 1 : 3 LASCANNON TEAM
(75 pts) HEAVY WEAPON Squad 2 : 3 AUTOCANNON TEAM

(110 pts) ELITE SQUAD : 9 BATTLE PSYKERS W/ OVERSEER

(115 pts) VETERAN Troop Squad 1 : 1 SERGEANT W/ CHAINSWORD, 6 LASGUN, 3 PLASMAGUN
(100 pts) VETERAN Troop Squad 2 : 1 SERGEANT W/ CHAINSWORD, 6 LASGUN, 3 MELTAGUN
(85 pts) VETERAN Troop Squad 3 : 1 SERGEANT W/ CHAINSWORD, 6 LASGUN, 3 GRENADE LAUNCHER

(85 pts) Fast Attack 1 : Armored Sentinel w/ Plasmacannon & HK Missile
(260 pts) Fast Attack 2 : 2 Valkyrie Transport w/ Rocket pods
(130 pts) Fast Attack 3 : 1 Valkyrie Transport w/ Rocket pods

(410 pts) Heavy Support 1: 2 LEMAN RUSS W/ LASCANNON, HEAVY BOLTER SPONSONS, PINTLE STORM BOLTER, DOZER BLADE
(440 pts) Heavy Support 2: 2 LEMAN RUSS DEMOLISHERW/ LASCANNON, HEAVY BOLTER SPONSONS, PINTLE STORM BOLTER, DOZER BLADE


(TOTAL : 2500)

You are overloading every single unit with too many upgrades, take a step back and look what you actually will end up with on the table:

4 Leman Russ
3x AV12 Flyers
1x Armored Sentinel (why?!)
3x Vets and a platoon with two heavy weapons teams (no chimeras)

Okay, so first off, if you really want Valkyries over Vendettas, you should definitely not be squadding them up - they are enough of a target as it is. Drop the single Sentinel.

Next, you have no opportunity to manoevre, this list needs chimeras (although not for the heavy weapons squads, but for the rest).

Primaris Psycher? Why? Also, a single PBS is not very effective in a world of Ld 10 Eldar and Psychic Hoods. I suggest you drop both.

I think you would really benefit by thinking about what you want your list to achieve, then building it around that. At the moment it looks like you just picked units at random.

Apart from the valks, this is close to the list Ive been playing with my local gaming buddy, to decent success. Generally I like setting up the CCS and heavy weapons as a firebase, then use the vets to go capture/hunt.

The sentinels have actually worked really well for me, so well that I have considered running 9 of them, they don't fall easily and can tie up units for several turns in CC. Ive even potted a Pred with one in CC by outflanking behind it.

Havent faced a Psychic hood yet, but I use the Primaris for the psychic lightning, usually 7-11 shots at STR6. I send him IC hunting. And the PBS is one more blast template I throw out.

My thinking was planning a general purpose army, decent anti-armor and anti-infantry.