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so who thinks the necrons are the mysterious hive mind.

probably no one.

I never thought about it much. But it is true that the tyranids avoid planets on which the necrons reside. Although this may be due to the fact that they cant consume the necrons becuase they're only metal.

At least noone who has read the Necron Codex and/or knows their background.
Necrons are Necrontyr who were lured into metal bodies, losing their free will by that (no free will -> no creative decisions).
Necrontyr were an old race before turning into Necrons, but of this Galaxy. Tyranids come from another Galaxy.
C'tan were just energy beings living parasitically of star matter, before lured into metal bodies by the Necrontyr. They are of this Galaxy as well.

basically that was the reason behind why i posted this.
the tyranids seem to avoid the necrons as if thier the plague.
but the necrons being living metal could be a reason,

If I remember correctly Nid's could care less about Necrons because of the lack of biomass, and Necrons could care less about Nid's because of the lack of souls. Neither has anything the other needs, so they have no reason to go after the other.

Could be wrong, I'm rusty on Necron fluff.

...No

Necrons stripped their tomb planets of all biomass in fear of an Enslaver invasion. So nothing to get there for Tyranids.

Some people think this because of the C'tan background, more specifically The Outsider. I've seen it speculated to be the Hive Mind a few times.

Fun Fact: The C'tan were the first race in the galaxy.

They aren't linked as far as I know and the Outsider thing isn't feasible to me.
Necrons could easly wipe out the Tyranids with those World Engines.They just do hit and run tactics until Tyranids are dead.

IvanTih wrote:They aren't linked as far as I know and the Outsider thing isn't feasible to me.
Necrons could easly wipe out the Tyranids with those World Engines.They just do hit and run tactics until Tyranids are dead.

Except that the first (documented) World Engine was defeated by a Battlebarge ramming into it (through the shields) and disgorging a Chapter into the World Engine itself. This is more or less the stock tactic for Tyranid space-borne warfare, and they excel at it like no other. Large, obvious targets are the *worst* thing to bring against a Tyranid Hive Fleet.

Depending on the true scale of the Tyranid threat (coupled with the already abundant psychic races native to the galaxy), the C'tan might well opt to just go back to sleep, let the Tyranids purge the galaxy and then set their alarm clocks for another 65 million years time.

I agree Ivan I don't think it's feasible either for them to be related, I'm just saying that's usually the reason I see them linked together

1 word. Ridiculous.

One point of many to support this
nids use psychic powers... extensively. The c'tan would not allow/create/facilitate that. Their overarching agenda is to block off, shut down, and cut off the warp from reality. I mean... that is all that can really kill?/hurt them. Hence Pariahs being their ultimate/next step in the necron evolution.

I think there is potential for an interesting plotline here. Y'see, the tyranids have infact never waged war with necrons, how do we know that necrons didn't travel to the nids galaxy and create them as slaves with nobody knowing. Even the nids themselves wouldn't know but for some reason they have the instincs not to attack crons.

If I remember correctly Nid's could care less about Necrons because of the lack of biomass, and Necrons could care less about Nid's because of the lack of souls. Neither has anything the other needs, so they have no reason to go after the other.

The tyranids won't fight crons because their strength is to absorb all biomass after taking a planet therefore loosing nothing won't work against armies with no biomas. However crons would love to snack on tyranids. C'tan eat the life force of living creatures (can't remeber source of info, sorry) and there are a lot of nids to eat. when crons attack a planet they kill all life not just creatures with souls, if a C'tan can eat a dog then it can eat a nid.

To OP- you aren't the only one with this idea, the are a lot of people who think that an unknown C'tan or possibly the outsider is behind it. Most of the C'tan from this galaxy are gone but they were created at the begining of the universe so their could be others out their.

scarskull5 wrote:I think there is potential for an interesting plotline here. Y'see, the tyranids have infact never waged war with necrons, how do we know that necrons didn't travel to the nids galaxy and create them as slaves with nobody knowing. Even the nids themselves wouldn't know but for some reason they have the instincs not to attack crons.

Isn't there an incident in the new BA codex that says both the Crons and BA's were attacked by 'Nids?

Sorry, rusty on Cron fluff, but who is the Outsider?

Isn't there an incident in the new BA codex that says both the Crons and BA's were attacked by 'Nids?

Dante, and some Blood Angels, were fighting the Necrons lead by the "Silent King" when they were attacked by Tyranids, and...teamed up... To beat them. Then they parted ways peacefully.

Sorry, rusty on Cron fluff, but who is the Outsider?

One of the 4 still living, C'tan. Supposed to be insane, and currently trapped in a Dyson Sphere.

If you are implying yourself, then one person: you.
If you aren't, then nobody.

ehhh, no real connection to my view
especially since in the nid codex at one point a tyranid invasion wakes up a necron army on a nearby moon.....who then proceed to vaporize and rape every tyranid in the system before harvesting the tau on the invaded planet

Grey Templar wrote:probably no one.

Wins thread, especially given that it was the second post. Good show, everyone else. Just be faster next time.

just pointing it out thier. i guess the story of necrons teaming up with the blood angels proves it.
even though that story could be a lie. like all history could possibley be a lie.
but i doubt they would lie about having to team up with necrons.

and for any butt turds that think i think this can just stop posting its irritating im just trying to propose a possible point. thier might be a story behind the tyranids to whats controlling them. possibley a reason for humanity to set aside thier difference or to use as a weapon against everyone else i honestly do not know.

Xyptc wrote:

IvanTih wrote:They aren't linked as far as I know and the Outsider thing isn't feasible to me.
Necrons could easly wipe out the Tyranids with those World Engines.They just do hit and run tactics until Tyranids are dead.

Except that the first (documented) World Engine was defeated by a Battlebarge ramming into it (through the shields) and disgorging a Chapter into the World Engine itself. This is more or less the stock tactic for Tyranid space-borne warfare, and they excel at it like no other. Large, obvious targets are the *worst* thing to bring against a Tyranid Hive Fleet.

Depending on the true scale of the Tyranid threat (coupled with the already abundant psychic races native to the galaxy), the C'tan might well opt to just go back to sleep, let the Tyranids purge the galaxy and then set their alarm clocks for another 65 million years time.

I've always imagined that the World Engine would just use the Inertialess Drive to jump to another location therefore evading Tyranids.

I do think the 2 are connected in the sense that the Outsider is probably the Hive mind, but I also dont think the Outsider is any friend to the other C'tan, so any linked agenda is squashed. The Outsider left the galaxy because he was hated by the C'tan and didnt want to be killed by the Nightbringer, and came back with a race of bugs bound to his will. Not the most ludicrious theory i've heard.

Edit: I meshed the Nightbringer and Outsider lore up just very slightly, the Outsider was eating other C'tan and went crazy because of it, left the galaxy because of the retribution from the others.

Also I think it's funny to think that maybe the Outsider got a bit Biased with one of his hive fleets, yes i'm thinking of you Iyanden

Laughing god: 1 Outsider: a long awaited 1

I hear a C'tan was behind the Kennedy assassination.

Hive Mind = psychic = warp

C'tan = / = warp

Outsider = / Hive Mind

The short answer is no.
The long answer is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO/forever.

Retribution wrote:Hive Mind = psychic = warp

C'tan = / = warp

Outsider = / Hive Mind

EXACTLY.
FTW.

Ad Meliora wrote:I hear a C'tan was behind the Kennedy assassination.

Its true. It was the grassy knoll, thats how we missed it all these years