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 RiTides wrote:


Also to highlord - I did not know that KD was selling prints, that's really helpful to know . I definitely think we're on the cusp of this becoming super viable... Looking forward to the revolution


They sell prints they make. Not STLs. Ala privateer press.
   
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Thanks Monkeysloth!

I got that - I'm actually super willing to pay for prints, as mine just haven't turned out smooth enough when painted. Again, I know fine sanding would address much of that, but if a company has cracked the code, I'm interested.

Is there anyone selling printing services that others of you might consider sending your Mierce files to to print? Like you mentioned, companies like KD, PP and Greebo are just selling their own stuff... and the services I have used have not stood up to the quality required, anymore than my own results have (and actually worse, so far).
   
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It's been exactly ten years since we ran our first Kickstarter project, fellow Miercenaries, and we've paid homage to the past with a miniatures project in January, Darklands: Brutal Beasts. This time we look to the future with another kickstarter project that unleashes the STL files for our Sávra miniatures - Darklands: Digital Realms - for you to download and print for just £25!



The Darklands: Digital Realms kickstarter project!
The SÁVRARCHON reward from the Darklands: Digital Realms kickstarter project!

The SÁVRARCHON reward on Darklands: Digital Realms is the only reward on the project and is yours for just £25. It gives you an amazing amount of miniatures; if you purchased these normally they'd cost you well over £800 in resin and around £600 in metal!

Lots More to Come!
There's plenty more to come over the next week, so head on over to Darklands: Digital Realms and grab yourself some really cool lizardmen!


Interesting development - and something they've mentioned potentially doing. I imagine this is a 'feeling the waters' deal.

2 things concern me

- Why such a short turn around on these? Like why 5 days? Surely (given that theres stretch goals clearly planned) you'd want to pull it out at least a fortnight. That... worries me.

- Why launch it in the same month as your Patreon. Maybe ones intended to promote the other, being cynical... these cash grabs were the sort of thing Maelstrom did when that was an entity...


I've backed it on the basis that £25 isn't an awful lot of money to lose if things go wrong, and that I probably won't be able to afford a mega lizardman army

EDIT
You might also be wondering what else might be coming in the range, and might try and look on the Mierce Website to find them... unfortunately, there buried under a different name under a different faction. From what I can tell, its essentially the entire faction.

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Kickstarter is just a different market with not as much cross oever as you'd expect. Plenty of STL companies run both side by side and some even do kickstarters with things that were in their Paterons.

I agree it's odd so soon into their pateron but i think they're seeing which one is better in the long run or if they should use both.
   
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Thing is, if it was just about seeing which was better, why set the 'goal' so high?

Like they've already said these in hand and ready to go... I dunno.


   
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 Gomezaddams wrote:
Thing is, if it was just about seeing which was better, why set the 'goal' so high?
Yea, that's a weird choice. With no add-ons and a single pledge tier, they straight up need 200 pledges to fund. Taking a look, the last time a Mierce KS broke 200 was Savage Hordes IV (Sept 2017) and before that Darklands: Savage Hordes III Part Deux (Oct 2016). The Patreon has 323 patrons right now, so maybe the thought was Mierce could double tap the patrons easily and then the rest is gravy. Mostly this has been met with confusion on the Patreon.

Here's Mierce's response on Patreon as to why a KS is running at the same time and if these lizard files will be available to us patrons:
No, they won't be; we have so many STL files to offer, we want to speed it up to eventually synchronise with our physical releases. We have around eighteen months' worth of files if we did it only via patreon! This project offers around three months' worth of files and it's actually a bit cheaper than the patreon, and speeds things up for us.

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Yeah it's weird. Don't get me wrong I'm more than happy to slap down 25 quid to get these as well but they should have probably either started them same day, with a combined announcement - or given it a couple months.

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I have backed them on Patreon, but do feel a bit put out by the kickstarter. Rob has said to a comment on this that it is to speed up the publishing of the range as stls, as it would take 18 months via patreon alone. Makes me worry that the factions I'm backing to get might be made available via kickstarter instead.

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 RiTides wrote:
 Bolognesus wrote:
 RiTides wrote:
Bolognesus, I would really love to see your Tower Banbreca when it's finished, or even the pieces. I've yet to get quality models that I felt good about 3D printed, either that I've commissioned to be printed or done myself.

I can't tell if my standards are just too high, or I've had bad luck in sourcing it! Companies like Greebo are literally selling 3D prints as final production products ("Greeblood", they're very cagey about the material and process) but I can't seem to crack the code.

I do think it's likely more forgiving at the large size of Mierce creations, but the large areas of organic or at least smooth / curving surfaces seem like they'd be challenging for many machines unless you're going to lightly sand it afterwards (and maybe you should just always be doing that ).

Anyway, would love to see your results when you have them!

Spoiler:

Shame I printed in white resin, it looks *really* soft in the pictures - meanwhile in reality, it's crisp as hell.

I'm looking at the Gasts that are currently sort-of at the head of my new painting queue and even just primed black, they're crisp as heck.
Again, just a humble ~$200 printer - but one of the ones with 4K at 5.5" LCD diameter resolution.

I'll get back with pics once I have anything painted - although keep in mind, I'm neither a good, *nor* a fast painter so it'll be a bit, haha.

Thank you for the pic, Bolognesus!

Also to highlord - I did not know that KD was selling prints, that's really helpful to know . I definitely think we're on the cusp of this becoming super viable... Looking forward to the revolution

...OK so not necessarily something I'd photograph and post (speedpaint at best) but since I've taken a bit to sort out that apparently my bargain basement resin wasn't exactly fit for printing very lithe, breakable models, and I really needed to buy something suitable already, all I've gotten completely painted so far is this one (speed)paint scheme tester.
Not a great marketing image but heck, you know what the model's supposed to look like, right? As to quality of home prints... look at the chainmail. how those individual rings come out just fine, and they take single coat/wash treatment. I don't think I lose *any* quality vs. buying cast minis at this point?

Apologies for the pic quality, I'm looking for a decent macro setup, but for now I'm stuck using my phone.
   
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Thanks for sharing the picture. Interesting to see how they turn out. I really need to get a move on with the printing before the next host comes out.

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Sale time again:
Half Price Spring Sale
50% off until Monday!
Spring has finally sprung, fellow Miercenaries, and to celebrate that we're offering 50% off all of our miniatures until midnight (GMT) on Monday the 27th of March 2023!

Sale Voucher Details
Your 50% off UK RRP discount voucher ends on Monday the 27th of March 2023 at midnight (GMT).
The voucher will work on all the miniatures within our webstore, but:
- not on any limited edition miniatures
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Crucially, you'll still earn Moneyback when using a voucher - although tiered discounts are disabled.

How do I use the voucher?
Your voucher code is: SPRING-2023

To use this voucher simply register on the webstore, mierce-miniatures.com (if you haven't already), copy and paste the voucher code into the Voucher field in your basket when you have selected the items you want, press 'REDEEM', and the webstore will do the rest. You are not limited to one purchase and, indeed, we would ask you to recommend us to your friends with this voucher!

Please be patient
Please bear in mind that promotions like this quickly strip the stock that we hold, so we do ask that you remain patient while we sort your order out. We can never tell, really, which miniatures are popular from one promotion to the next!
Happy Ordering!

Remember, you've only got until Monday to take part, so get your skates on!

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So the Kickstarter got cancelled - it just wasn't going to hit the funding goal. I suspect now after the final reveals of the Seraphon, it might be an even harder sell. Anywho, next month on Patreon has been revealed!



This is a lot more like it for me. Big lads, medium lads, infantry lads, and some heroes. Two main complaints though.

- Theres only five bodies in the units. Its just a different set of arms which is going to get.. samey if the arms aren't seperate so you can do a bit of mirroring

- Thera three times, but no standard bearer?

However, there is at least another months worth of Atlantes there (medium lads with bows, ladette with bow, mega big lad)... but on the other hand, some of that is penned for release in June...

Again, this is where Mierce is in a much stronger position then a lot of other 3d printing companies. Lets say come June, rather than running a whole new month of Greek lads*, carry on with the new factions and send some of those straight to MMF. Email to all Aprils backers who have ducked out "Hey we've got new Greek lads for sale, and if you back this month you get 50% off!". Thats some good synergy of your digital sales right there.

The more I think about this as well, the more I think that if they want a big injection of cash... why not run a Kickstarter for the Bane Legions range. Use the funds to purchase a 3d scanner, and then all the Bane Legions can be slung up on MMF without any real impact to the Darklands range.

I'll be backing this month I think. I've been wanting to paint some Greeks for awhile and these will do the job nicely.






   
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Just printed my first couple of jutes from the first month of the patreon. Sprayed grey and dry brushed white so that the details can be seen. A couple of components didn't print perfectly, and some bits are very thin, but the quality of the detail is really good.


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Nice prints!

   
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Weird since Mierce does not have a stand at Salute this year... I wonder why was that...

A shame I always like to check them there.

   
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 Slinky wrote:
Nice prints!


Cheers mate

And with some paint;



I was really impressed with how good the details are. The jaws on the skulls, for instance, are so crisp and clear.

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sweet

 
   
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Big reward for anyone who is a patron/triber from May to July...



Full post on patreon can be read here.

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I've always wanted this dragon, but have been put off by the price tag (even at 50%) and how much of a pain it would be to build. Mind, printing it on my tiny printer will be a terror too, however I'm thrilled to have the capability to if I ever feel froggy and have any resin stockpiled

Related, I should probably print something from Mierce to see how it works for me ......

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@boss salvage the presupported files have printed really well. No failures or issues at all. The big pieces are all hollowed out as well, so they aren't using too much resin at all. That big skeleton tower from month 1 with the wihtax riders only used about £6's worth of resin.

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Boss Salvage wrote:Mind, printing it on my tiny printer will be a terror too
Think of the upside. You get two for the price of one, a (3D) puzzle first and a mini afterwards!
   
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 Boss Salvage wrote:
I've always wanted this dragon, but have been put off by the price tag (even at 50%) and how much of a pain it would be to build. Mind, printing it on my tiny printer will be a terror too, however I'm thrilled to have the capability to if I ever feel froggy and have any resin stockpiled

Related, I should probably print something from Mierce to see how it works for me ......


Rob has more or less explicitly committed to splitting the wings into parts small enough to run on small resin printers in the Patreon comments. Also the megaturtle from the Khthon-Savrar kickstarter got its body split into additional components, small enough to work with 6" ish screen resin printers (and a good bit smaller even, I figure).
Everything presupported has worked just fine for me so far.

You're going to be a tonne of resin and like ten-plus build plates into printing that dragon, but if its a mini you had your eye on, man, that thing basically earns your resin printer its purchase price, I'd guess (I know it would for mine, if I had any interest in this dragon).
   
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 Bolognesus wrote:
You're going to be a tonne of resin and like ten-plus build plates into printing that dragon, but if its a mini you had your eye on, man, that thing basically earns your resin printer its purchase price, I'd guess (I know it would for mine, if I had any interest in this dragon).


How does the cost + effort of printing compare versus buying it at half price?

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 Baragash wrote:
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 Bolognesus wrote:
You're going to be a tonne of resin and like ten-plus build plates into printing that dragon, but if its a mini you had your eye on, man, that thing basically earns your resin printer its purchase price, I'd guess (I know it would for mine, if I had any interest in this dragon).


How does the cost + effort of printing compare versus buying it at half price?


Fair question. To be a little sarky... I, for one, actually enjoy spending time on hobby related activities

On a serious note: if you've never done this before there's a fair bit of learning to do (although it's not nearly as much as you might think from the outside looking in!), but most of that is pretty darn fun (and satisfying).

Once you're over the initial hurdle... You just spend 5-10 minutes every now and then getting some printed parts out of the printer, washing them, setting them to cure and then run the next print.

That's a nice little 5-15 min of hobby time with tangible results once or twice daily.
TBH it mostly *doesn't* take up time I would otherwise have spent productively, be that on work, life, or hobbies. YMMV of course.

Also I do have one of the ready made wash& cure solutions. If you're dicking around with tubs of isopropyl alcohol and dingy UV LED boxes it might not be quite as convenient a workflow.

Printing about a hundred bucks worth of savrar (at half off, at that!) probably took a net 15-20 min of my time, for example. I'd say it compares favorably
   
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 Bolognesus wrote:
 Baragash wrote:
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 Bolognesus wrote:
You're going to be a tonne of resin and like ten-plus build plates into printing that dragon, but if its a mini you had your eye on, man, that thing basically earns your resin printer its purchase price, I'd guess (I know it would for mine, if I had any interest in this dragon).


How does the cost + effort of printing compare versus buying it at half price?


Fair question. To be a little sarky... I, for one, actually enjoy spending time on hobby related activities

On a serious note: if you've never done this before there's a fair bit of learning to do (although it's not nearly as much as you might think from the outside looking in!), but most of that is pretty darn fun (and satisfying).

Once you're over the initial hurdle... You just spend 5-10 minutes every now and then getting some printed parts out of the printer, washing them, setting them to cure and then run the next print.

That's a nice little 5-15 min of hobby time with tangible results once or twice daily.
TBH it mostly *doesn't* take up time I would otherwise have spent productively, be that on work, life, or hobbies. YMMV of course.

Also I do have one of the ready made wash& cure solutions. If you're dicking around with tubs of isopropyl alcohol and dingy UV LED boxes it might not be quite as convenient a workflow.

Printing about a hundred bucks worth of savrar (at half off, at that!) probably took a net 15-20 min of my time, for example. I'd say it compares favorably


You should really double that amount of time (total) to take in account the time slicing the files and planning out your print beds depending on the machine, but once that is set up your timeframe is about what I invest in building an army.

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 Theophony wrote:
 Bolognesus wrote:
 Baragash wrote:
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 Bolognesus wrote:
You're going to be a tonne of resin and like ten-plus build plates into printing that dragon, but if its a mini you had your eye on, man, that thing basically earns your resin printer its purchase price, I'd guess (I know it would for mine, if I had any interest in this dragon).


How does the cost + effort of printing compare versus buying it at half price?


Fair question. To be a little sarky... I, for one, actually enjoy spending time on hobby related activities

On a serious note: if you've never done this before there's a fair bit of learning to do (although it's not nearly as much as you might think from the outside looking in!), but most of that is pretty darn fun (and satisfying).

Once you're over the initial hurdle... You just spend 5-10 minutes every now and then getting some printed parts out of the printer, washing them, setting them to cure and then run the next print.

That's a nice little 5-15 min of hobby time with tangible results once or twice daily.
TBH it mostly *doesn't* take up time I would otherwise have spent productively, be that on work, life, or hobbies. YMMV of course.

Also I do have one of the ready made wash& cure solutions. If you're dicking around with tubs of isopropyl alcohol and dingy UV LED boxes it might not be quite as convenient a workflow.

Printing about a hundred bucks worth of savrar (at half off, at that!) probably took a net 15-20 min of my time, for example. I'd say it compares favorably


You should really double that amount of time (total) to take in account the time slicing the files and planning out your print beds depending on the machine, but once that is set up your timeframe is about what I invest in building an army.


...Really? Maybe if I have to do the supports myself but with presupported models, that's no work at all.

Honestly I think it helped when I realised that printer was going to sit idle >80% of the time anyway so now I just set it up real roomy and do a couple extra plates, no need to puzzle and squeeze to minimise no of build plates...
   
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 Baragash wrote:
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 Bolognesus wrote:
You're going to be a tonne of resin and like ten-plus build plates into printing that dragon, but if its a mini you had your eye on, man, that thing basically earns your resin printer its purchase price, I'd guess (I know it would for mine, if I had any interest in this dragon).


How does the cost + effort of printing compare versus buying it at half price?


The big files have been hollowed out, so it hasn't been as much resin going into them as you might expect. The big jute tower with the 5 skeleton riders used less than 250g of resin (around £6-7) and the colossus from the atalantes about £5's worth. Including their bases. It's peanuts compared to the sale price. Effort hasn't been much- they are presupported so it's just a case of filling the build plate.

Have a look at my P&M blog - currently working on Sons of Horus

Have a look at my 3d Printed Mierce Miniatures

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Zone Mortalis (unfinished)
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 JamesY wrote:
 Baragash wrote:
/
 Bolognesus wrote:
You're going to be a tonne of resin and like ten-plus build plates into printing that dragon, but if its a mini you had your eye on, man, that thing basically earns your resin printer its purchase price, I'd guess (I know it would for mine, if I had any interest in this dragon).


How does the cost + effort of printing compare versus buying it at half price?


The big files have been hollowed out, so it hasn't been as much resin going into them as you might expect. The big jute tower with the 5 skeleton riders used less than 250g of resin (around £6-7) and the colossus from the atalantes about £5's worth. Including their bases. It's peanuts compared to the sale price. Effort hasn't been much- they are presupported so it's just a case of filling the build plate.


Oh right, price - I hadn't even thought to respond to that! It's *so* much cheaper than buying models outright it's barely even a consideration at/for 28mm TTWG purposes. Good point.
(With a hearty recommendation for the Sunlu ABS-like resin - apparently not quite as good as some of the other ABS likes but so, so attractively cheap and even skellies end up decently break-resistant!)
   
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Interesting, thanks for the feedback

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Can anyone explain to me how the chuff this all works? Start by assuming I'm an idiot who doesn't understand the modern world.

I joined the Patreon from the first month, so I've been getting billed. I have a MyMiniFactory account and there's nothing in it. I'm assuming that the first couple of months of files are gone and I can't get them (the Whit and Atalantes)?

I'm looking at this months collection and it's a download from MyAirBridge. I've downloaded that but how does that link to MyMiniFactory? Do I upload them to my own account?
   
 
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