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 dracpanzer wrote:

Rynner wrote:
I'm torn on the rule of 3. Not being able to spam dominions has forced more variety into my lists and probably made them better but at the same time I want to spam dominions sooooo badly.

My problem with the Ro3 has always been that we have so few units across all unit types. Sisters having a maximum of four HQ choices is rudiculous from a rule designed to prevent 7 flyrants from showing up that still doesn't stop you from bringing 15 hellhounds. As the CA list draws closer the idea of additional data-slates for our army is starting to smell like hope. Though we know what lies down that road...

My double Battalion all SoB list got a buff from the FAQ. Avoided the non Battle Forged CP nerf, Repressors went up to a 2+/5++ when not going first and no longer have to think about turn one deepstrike screens just to get out of my deployment zone without being assaulted. No nerfs came our way (I have never embraced the vertical weirdness of the fly rule in 8ed anyways) so for the most part all of those are buffs for us.

I think the meta loyal "32" might just become "64" to overcome the BF CP nerf, who knows, it does put its cost a bit closer to my BSS cost in a double Batt build. I don't think we have to look very far to see where the Meta will go to counter the FAQ. If CA comes the same times as last year, maybe we will get some new tricks to make a bump when it shows up.

What are the loyal 32?

A 2+ Repressor sounds great if/when I back to running them.

Guard CP farms, three squads and 2 cheap HQ.

2+/5++ repressor? ...Is the 5++ from celestine?

 Giantwalkingchair wrote:
2+/5++ repressor? ...Is the 5++ from celestine?

Yes.

I really liked running 4 squads of doms in 2 repressors. But that 4th squad is way too overpowered. /sarcasm

I've been running 2 Dominion squads with Meltas in one Repressor and another Dominion squad with flamers, CombiFlamer, and a Canoness with CombiFlamer who runs up behind and jumps in turn 1 before the second Repressor moves.

6d6 autohits against that annoying bubblewrap? So nice...

I do 1 of each weapon in friendly games, 1 unit of Flamers, 1 unit of SB, 1 unit of MG's.

In tournaments its all SB's for my Doms, super cheap, fast, and lots of shots at range.

I usually ran 2 units of 4x Melta Guns and 1x Storm Bolter and 1 unit of 5x Storm Bolters in Repressors.

It worked okay. I find Melta guns are way too finicky and that the storm bolters did a lot more damage then they should.

I still run all SB Doms, they get ignored more for some reason. I double up my BSS in Repressors, each squad brings one MG and two SB's. All six specials can shoot out, I don't have that fistful of MG shots that will miss 3 of 5 everytime, can still rattle off 20 SB shots with the Repressors thrown in and leave the tank killing to my Seraphim.

Has anyone tried running Celestians recently? With the 'why aren't you just running more Doms?' Question answered, I'm curious to know if +1WS and +1A for counter charges has any potential appeal at 2 ppm.

Celestians have the problem of BSS being able to do the same job for less.
Ive not found use for them myself. Maybe throwing a priest near a max squad might be worth trying, but the again, why the heck would anyone throw them into combat. Oonly time i put sisters into combat is to sacrifice them to prevent a threatening unit from shooting or charging on their own terms.

Lammia wrote:
Has anyone tried running Celestians recently? With the 'why aren't you just running more Doms?' Question answered, I'm curious to know if +1WS and +1A for counter charges has any potential appeal at 2 ppm.

I tried for a long time, even using them as elite fillers in a brigade after the Ro3. BSS are just cheaper for all the things that both Celestians and BSS SHOULD be doing.

Lammia wrote:
Has anyone tried running Celestians recently? With the 'why aren't you just running more Doms?' Question answered, I'm curious to know if +1WS and +1A for counter charges has any potential appeal at 2 ppm.

They can potentially tank a little first turn fire for Celestine before she gets off the line, or fill out a multi-canoness assault unit (as ablative wounds). Though deepstrike changes have made getting shot from behind in the first turn unlikely.

Thanks for your thoughts.

The FAQ will certainly reduce the amount of time my BSS spend doing stuff they shouldn't be doing.(Poor GsC..)

Here's what I'm going to get destroyed playing this weekend:

+++ Cardinals of Saint Louise [102 PL, 1999pts] +++
++ Super-Heavy Auxiliary Detachment (Imperium - Imperial Knights) [30 PL, 593pts] ++
Knight Castellan [30 PL, 593pts]
- One Siegebreaker Cannon & Four Shieldbreaker Missiles: 4x Shieldbreaker Missile, Twin Siegebreaker Cannon
- Household Choice: House Raven, Questor Mechanicus

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Adeptus Ministorum) [41 PL, 862pts] ++
Canoness [4 PL, 52pts]: Power axe, Storm bolter
Celestine [11 PL, 225pts]: Celestine, Geminae Superia
3x Battle Sister Squad [4 PL, 90pts]
- 2x Battle Sister
- Battle Sister w/ Special or Heavy Weapon: Meltagun
- Battle Sister w/ Special Weapon: Meltagun
- Sister Superior: Inferno pistol, Storm Bolter
Seraphim Squad [4 PL, 91pts]
- 2x Seraphim
- Seraphim Superior: Bolt pistol, Bolt pistol
- Seraphim w/ Special Weapons: 2x Inferno Pistols
- Seraphim w/ Special Weapons: 2x Inferno Pistols
Sororitas Repressor [5 PL, 112pts]: Heavy flamer, Storm bolter, Storm bolter
Sororitas Repressor [5 PL, 112pts]: Heavy flamer, Storm bolter, Storm bolter

++ Supreme Command Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Space Wolves) [31 PL, 544pts] ++
Wolf Lord on Thunderwolf [7 PL, 154pts]: Saga of the Wolfkin, Storm shield, Thunder hammer, Warlord
- The Wulfen Stone: Relic of The Fang
Rune Priest on Bike [8 PL, 130pts]: 2. Tempest's Wrath, 4. Fury of the Wolf Spirits, Bolt pistol, Runic armour, Runic axe
- Bike: Twin boltgun
Rune Priest on Bike [8 PL, 130pts]: 1. Living Lightning, 6. Jaws of the World Wolf, Bolt pistol, Runic armour, Runic axe
- Bike: Twin boltgun
Rune Priest on Bike [8 PL, 130pts]: 1. Living Lightning, 5. Storm Caller, Bolt pistol, Runic armour, Runic axe
- Bike: Twin boltgun


My only goal for the weekend is to kill 3 units with 1 Living Lightning.

Why the wolves? I get the living lighting thing but even with the fly nerf I still think BA are way better.

Rynner wrote:
Why the wolves? I get the living lighting thing but even with the fly nerf I still think BA are way better.

Well, I already have the wolves and bike priests. But I also have a jump captain. All of my Imperial units are the same paint scheme and interchangeable. This will be my first attempt with wolves in 8th. The lord is a pretty good beat stick without any CP help, unlike Smash Cap who is CP thirsty. A Rune Priest can dish out 80 attacks in a single turn with the correct circumstances. (real fringe possibility, but a fun stat to state). I spent most of 7th running Sister/Wolves. After this weekend GT I'll have the lightning itch scratched and I'll drop 2 rune priests for a squad of aggressors to outflank on turn 2 for the first week of a new league.

It's not the best list by any means. I'm just planning on having some fun with it.

Dear CA 2018,
Get here faster.
Love,
Josh

I hear you about wanting chapter approved. If I wasn't going all in on attempting to win best sisters in ITC this year (I think it'll come down to LVO though) I would have probably shelved them for now.

 deviantduck wrote:

Rynner wrote:
Why the wolves? I get the living lighting thing but even with the fly nerf I still think BA are way better.

Well, I already have the wolves and bike priests. But I also have a jump captain. All of my Imperial units are the same paint scheme and interchangeable. This will be my first attempt with wolves in 8th. The lord is a pretty good beat stick without any CP help, unlike Smash Cap who is CP thirsty. A Rune Priest can dish out 80 attacks in a single turn with the correct circumstances. (real fringe possibility, but a fun stat to state). I spent most of 7th running Sister/Wolves. After this weekend GT I'll have the lightning itch scratched and I'll drop 2 rune priests for a squad of aggressors to outflank on turn 2 for the first week of a new league.

It's not the best list by any means. I'm just planning on having some fun with it.

Dear CA 2018,
Get here faster.
Love,
Josh

80 attacks from a rune priest? Not at all on topic, but I didn;t know that was even a thing lol

What do you guys think of the Hosptilar? I'm currently mulling over my list for the Michigan GT and I'm torn on taking one or not.

Rynner wrote:
What do you guys think of the Hosptilar? I'm currently mulling over my list for the Michigan GT and I'm torn on taking one or not.

The general concensus is your better off paying the extra points for a 'Box of Bones' as they're always going to do something and can fill the Hospitallar role in a pinch.

Edit: Also, squads aren't likely to stay on the board long enough for her to be useful in a GT.

To add, a Box of Bones is Imagifier, its an old way to say it.

That's fair on the imagifer. The one advantage the Hospitilar has is that I can heal a unit and act of faith them.

I don't think I'm going to be taking one because I found a far better use of those points but I really want to try it out one day. I'll let you all know if I do try it out.

Rynner wrote:
That's fair on the imagifer. The one advantage the Hospitilar has is that I can heal a unit and act of faith them.

I don't think I'm going to be taking one because I found a far better use of those points but I really want to try it out one day. I'll let you all know if I do try it out.

yeah, bring back 1 11-19pt model once a turn isnt really worth it lol.

It really should be a 6+++ aura banner model

Yeah the math isn't great on it. A 6++ would be better.

We already have a 6++ no? I could get behind some kind of Feel no Pain aura though. I play a Hospitaller sometimes for my base of fire Rets alongside an Imagifer. The one unit can only AoF once, shooting twice with a resurrectable model is nice, and sometimes getting two back up us better than shooting twice. I don't make sure to set aside parts for her, but if Inhave them to spare why not.

Too soon to start the Countdown to CA 2019?

I've used both, either to res two models in a squad, or to act, and then res.

 dracpanzer wrote:
We already have a 6++ no? I could get behind some kind of Feel no Pain aura though. I play a Hospitaller sometimes for my base of fire Rets alongside an Imagifer. The one unit can only AoF once, shooting twice with a resurrectable model is nice, and sometimes getting two back up us better than shooting twice. I don't make sure to set aside parts for her, but if Inhave them to spare why not.

Too soon to start the Countdown to CA 2019?

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/launch?iso=20181215T10&p0=605&msg=Chapter+Approved+2018%21&ud=2&font=cursive

I'm guessing on the date.

 deviantduck wrote:

 dracpanzer wrote:
We already have a 6++ no? I could get behind some kind of Feel no Pain aura though. I play a Hospitaller sometimes for my base of fire Rets alongside an Imagifer. The one unit can only AoF once, shooting twice with a resurrectable model is nice, and sometimes getting two back up us better than shooting twice. I don't make sure to set aside parts for her, but if Inhave them to spare why not.

Too soon to start the Countdown to CA 2019?

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/launch?iso=20181215T10&p0=605&msg=Chapter+Approved+2018%21&ud=2&font=cursive

I'm guessing on the date.

I hope thats true and that acts of faith don't get nerfed.

I just hope they swing to the 'too powerful' side of things during the Open Beta by undercosting everything by a point (or five to ten for vehicles).

I really don't want to see a replay of 'for one point more you could have an actual Space Marine' shenanigans again.