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It is the same weapon as the one on the Warlord, though; no need for it to be somehow better just because it's on a smaller unit.

 Valkyrie wrote:
I love the Nemesis model, may strongly consider getting one depending on the price and wherever you can buy it in individual parts such as arms, weapons etc.

The arms are definitely seperate as they're just the Reaver ones and the Community website has stated that there will be a choice of 4 weapons arms available at launch, which is the three existing Reaver ones (Gatling Blaster, Turbo-laser and Melta) plus the new re-designed Reaver Volcano Cannon (I'm assuming it can't mount a Reaver Power fist as that wasn't mentioned, and probably wouldn't be that sensible an option anyway considering the titans role).

Don't know if the head and main weapon will be seperate, hoping the head will be as I'm not 100% keen on the current head but suspect that the main weapon will be part of the body as it looks to me like if they were to release other weapons then other parts of the body would be redesigned, i.e. if they did a volcano cannon version then the large counterweights at the back of the body would be replaced by power cells or something (unless things like that have also been designed as part of the weapon kit).


I'm also considering getting one to add to my pile of incomplete titan parts as I really like the design (apart from the head).

It certainly looks a lot bigger than one that would be mounted on a Warlord arm. I think it's more that I hope FW puts a bit of imagination into the rules, make it a bit more unique than "Reaver with a Quake Cannon".

Something which has also occurred to me; I've been waiting over 7 years for carapace weapons for my Reaver, yet instead they've designed a whole new titan. Hell, they even sell a compatible Turbo Laser turret but you need to buy a whole RoB tile for it. Wouldn't even be too hard to make it compatible with all carapace weapons; just keep the housing and add the barrels for Plasma, Inferno or Vulcan.

 Valkyrie wrote:
It certainly looks a lot bigger than one that would be mounted on a Warlord arm. I think it's more that I hope FW puts a bit of imagination into the rules, make it a bit more unique than "Reaver with a Quake Cannon".

Something which has also occurred to me; I've been waiting over 7 years for carapace weapons for my Reaver, yet instead they've designed a whole new titan. Hell, they even sell a compatible Turbo Laser turret but you need to buy a whole RoB tile for it. Wouldn't even be too hard to make it compatible with all carapace weapons; just keep the housing and add the barrels for Plasma, Inferno or Vulcan.

Hopefully the carapace weapons will be coming soon, as I believe FW stated that the versions for AT were created at 28mm scale and then scaled down for AT (though admittedly all we've seen for the Reaver so far are the Apocalypse Launcher and Turbo-laser), and looks like the new Reaver Volcano cannon has come from the one designed for the new AT Reaver.

Tavis75 wrote:

 Valkyrie wrote:
It certainly looks a lot bigger than one that would be mounted on a Warlord arm. I think it's more that I hope FW puts a bit of imagination into the rules, make it a bit more unique than "Reaver with a Quake Cannon".

Something which has also occurred to me; I've been waiting over 7 years for carapace weapons for my Reaver, yet instead they've designed a whole new titan. Hell, they even sell a compatible Turbo Laser turret but you need to buy a whole RoB tile for it. Wouldn't even be too hard to make it compatible with all carapace weapons; just keep the housing and add the barrels for Plasma, Inferno or Vulcan.

Hopefully the carapace weapons will be coming soon, as I believe FW stated that the versions for AT were created at 28mm scale and then scaled down for AT (though admittedly all we've seen for the Reaver so far are the Apocalypse Launcher and Turbo-laser), and looks like the new Reaver Volcano cannon has come from the one designed for the new AT Reaver.

Good spot. Looks like there is a new Reaver Volcano Cannon coming:

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New:

Yep, initially spotted it on the preview of the new Reaver sprue, definitely a worthwhile upgrade as the old version is a bit dull looking (and pretty different in style to the Warlord version).

Tavis75 wrote:

 Valkyrie wrote:
It certainly looks a lot bigger than one that would be mounted on a Warlord arm. I think it's more that I hope FW puts a bit of imagination into the rules, make it a bit more unique than "Reaver with a Quake Cannon".

Something which has also occurred to me; I've been waiting over 7 years for carapace weapons for my Reaver, yet instead they've designed a whole new titan. Hell, they even sell a compatible Turbo Laser turret but you need to buy a whole RoB tile for it. Wouldn't even be too hard to make it compatible with all carapace weapons; just keep the housing and add the barrels for Plasma, Inferno or Vulcan.

Hopefully the carapace weapons will be coming soon, as I believe FW stated that the versions for AT were created at 28mm scale and then scaled down for AT (though admittedly all we've seen for the Reaver so far are the Apocalypse Launcher and Turbo-laser), and looks like the new Reaver Volcano cannon has come from the one designed for the new AT Reaver.

During the designer's review in the run up to AT's release, they did explain that their software has a debigulator button. Seems they used this on the Warlord CAD before tidying up. Reaver and Warhound however had to be entered from scratch, not having previously had CAD files.

So whether the AT carapace weapons were sculpted in that scale, or 28mm, the can still be resizographed or debigulated to suit the other

tneva82 wrote:

Tavis75 wrote:
Were there any hints at the price? I'm guessing the body with cannon is likely to be around the price of the Warlord body (if not slightly more) as the Titan itself doesn't look that much smaller than the Warlord, but then it will work out a bit cheaper overall as you'll only need the two Reaver class weapons.

It's stated to be in between class so should be bigger than reaver, smaller than warlord. Thus I would expect somewhat cheaper than warlord.

Its got that big gun on top though so that might bump the price up to warlord level.

 Galas wrote:


Mutated asiatic aragorn without eyebrowns:

Spoiler:

vs
Stoic knight of the West

Spoiler:

Why?

They need to stop this painter from painting faces; I bet it is the same person who destroyed the face of that Escher character. Sure, it is painted in far finer detail than I ever could, yet it is utterly horrible and mutates the sculpt beyond recognition.

Warbringer Nemesis (and the new Vocano cannon for the Reaver\Warbringer) are up for pre-order, the head and the quake cannon are seperate, so looks like there will be options in the future (glad about that, not keen on the current head) and the head comes with the shields the same as the Warlord. The anti-aircraft turrets come with the body though, so guess they wont get variants.

£980 in total, so a bit cheaper than the Warlord overall as expected.

Body £690
Quake Cannon £100
Arm weapons £65 each
Head £60

Will be interested to see the other weapons for the top, hoping for a Sunfury Plasma Cannon or the Warlord gatling weapon, as I reckon they would both look pretty cool on top but also imagine a Volcano cannon is most likely at first.

Blood Angels Praetors as well as dreadnoughts are available for preorder too ...

Rules for 30k and 40k for the Warbringer

And another pair of Consuls:

So what's the different between Reaver and "Battle Titan" Melta and Gatling Blaster arm that give them a 4$ increase in price?

well, that one consul finally gives me everything I need to make AL Exodus ...

It looks like they've changed the Vigilator model slightly. I remember when they previewed on the community site ages ago it had a different, much goofier looking face. It might've been the way it was painted though.

Chopstick wrote:
So what's the different between Reaver and "Battle Titan" Melta and Gatling Blaster arm that give them a 4$ increase in price?

They have remodeled some of the guns entirely, some just have the "arm" fixing point changed to support the new Warbringer:
Brand new Volcano Cannon:



Melta Cannon with different arm:

Chopstick wrote:
So what's the different between Reaver and "Battle Titan" Melta and Gatling Blaster arm that give them a 4$ increase in price?

I would assume full colour instructions and a box, and just inflation.



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 Looky Likey wrote:

Chopstick wrote:
So what's the different between Reaver and "Battle Titan" Melta and Gatling Blaster arm that give them a 4$ increase in price?

They have remodeled some of the guns entirely, some just have the "arm" fixing point changed to support the new Warbringer:

I'd spotted the new Volcano cannon as that's completely different, hadn't noticed there were differences on the others though. For instance, the armour plating on the Melta Cannon is more detailed on the new version.

The attachment point for the pipes that run from the body to the guns has changed as well, they now appear to be on top of the weapon, whereas before they were on the side and you had to build the weapon either left or right handed, now it looks like you may be able to build the weapons so they can be magnetised and will fit on either side. Wonder how that will work for the pipes that come with the Reaver though, as they are designed to go into the side and come moulded into roughly the right shape to support this.

Suprisingly though, the AT version of the Reaver still has the side mounted cables, I assumed these new versions of these weapons would be based on the ones created for AT.

That's an incredible release from FW this morning, like the old days with several releases in one go!

The consuls are a must have, and the BA stuff is great.

 Valkyrie wrote:
It certainly looks a lot bigger than one that would be mounted on a Warlord arm. I think it's more that I hope FW puts a bit of imagination into the rules, make it a bit more unique than "Reaver with a Quake Cannon".

Something which has also occurred to me; I've been waiting over 7 years for carapace weapons for my Reaver, yet instead they've designed a whole new titan. Hell, they even sell a compatible Turbo Laser turret but you need to buy a whole RoB tile for it. Wouldn't even be too hard to make it compatible with all carapace weapons; just keep the housing and add the barrels for Plasma, Inferno or Vulcan.

Last month I came across an ebay auction (from Korea) that had a FW Turbo Laser carapace turret for sale. They must really like that RoB tile without the weapon, for they seemed to have several copies of it for sale. They still have one available as of right now.

 cuda1179 wrote:
Last month I came across an ebay auction (from Korea) that had a FW Turbo Laser carapace turret for sale. They must really like that RoB tile without the weapon, for they seemed to have several copies of it for sale. They still have one available as of right now.

That must be it, I can see no other way that someone in Korea could end up with multiple copies of that turret

Tavis75 wrote:

I'd spotted the new Volcano cannon as that's completely different, hadn't noticed there were differences on the others though. For instance, the armour plating on the Melta Cannon is more detailed on the new version.

The majority of the melta is the same, its that one panel near the arm joint that has more detail. Mine is a Chaos one but the insides are the same:

On the Reaver, does that upper arm piece that holds the weapon come with the body or with the weapons?

 Rolsheen wrote:
On the Reaver, does that upper arm piece that holds the weapon come with the body or with the weapons?

I'm pretty sure it came with the Reaver, and in fact, unless it's changed since I got my reaver, the upper arm part that connects the weapon to the shoulder is actually one piece, not in two halves like the image of the volcano cannon suggests, so I think the image of the old Volcano cannon is just poorly shaded and misleading.

Although looking at the FW website it certainly makes it look like the upper arm piece comes with the weapon (and that would make the weapons consistent with the power fist which has a different upper arm piece), so not sure what is going on now as it looks like the new weapons don't include that piece, but the website states they work with the Reaver. Unless they've change it, but that would seem to be a nightmare from the point of dealing with old stock or for people wanting to add extra weapons to an old Reaver.

 Rolsheen wrote:
On the Reaver, does that upper arm piece that holds the weapon come with the body or with the weapons?

The arms come with the weapons, as they can be different arms depending on the weapon. For example the powerfist/powerclaw is very different. My Reaver power claw is for the same side as the melta:

robbienw wrote:
That's an incredible release from FW this morning, like the old days with several releases in one go!

The consuls are a must have, and the BA stuff is great.

I agree ... but that should be it for some time now regarding HH releases ... everything that was previewed over the last months is now released, is it not?

 Looky Likey wrote:

 Rolsheen wrote:
On the Reaver, does that upper arm piece that holds the weapon come with the body or with the weapons?

The arms come with the weapons, as they can be different arms depending on the weapon. For example the powerfist/powerclaw is very different. My Reaver power claw is for the same side as the melta:

Thanks, I wonder if there going to change it now because it comes with the new Titans body and doesn't show it on the weapon photos

Man, more than a single release in a week. Impressive.

 Fireball wrote:

robbienw wrote:
That's an incredible release from FW this morning, like the old days with several releases in one go!

The consuls are a must have, and the BA stuff is great.

I agree ... but that should be it for some time now regarding HH releases ... everything that was previewed over the last months is now released, is it not?

Pretty much. There is still the big missile rack and the atomantic pavaise for the Deredo to come out. But the pavaise has been previewed originally about a year and a half ago so perhaps it will never arrive

They are probably saving the next HH stuff for around the HH weekender time, the Malevolence book and the BA special units and special characters which we know are coming but haven't seen models for yet.

 Rolsheen wrote:

Thanks, I wonder if there going to change it now because it comes with the new Titans body and doesn't show it on the weapon photos

That would be weird as you'd be getting a whole bunch of arms with the body you are potentially never going to use. I would suspect the price increase for the new versions of the Reaver weapons are because it now includes two arms, one for the Reaver and one for the Warbringer, so you are paying slightly more for that "benefit". And also a lot of Titan owners like me own multiple weapons for each side, so I'd need way more arms than they'd include with the body, rather than getting exactly the right number of arms if they were included with the weapons.