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It may be well known by now, but I thought after the boxed-set of 10 Sisters was returned to the GW website, it was still available but only in a difficultly-accessed supply. However, today I just got an email saying that the product had been discontinued and my order had been canceled. I can deal with having to get the somewhat expensive little blisters, but I'm more curious than ever as to what's going on with the Battle Sisters. I've read a lot of the rumors about upcoming codexes, and was wondering if there was insight of Inquisition codex reform or if something darker was happening to this rarely-used faction, although I have many doubts about the squatting of a faction like this. Will we just have to permanently deal with 3-man blisters from now on, or is there hope for a new metal boxed set or plastic models?

There have been rumours of the Inquisition codexes being redone (and possibly consolidated) for some time now.

Retiring a box when a codex is due for an update generally means either repackaging or new models.

I think Necrons are next. If you're in the market, I have some sisters in the Swap Shop

oo they discontinued the Deamonhunters codex too O.o that means they are after eldar HORAY!!!

Vlad Von Carstien wrote:oo they discontinued the Deamonhunters codex too O.o that means they are after eldar HORAY!!!

Heh.

I think looking at all the rumors and information surrounding the potential release schedule, I think it will be something like this :

2010
Tyranids
Blood Angels
Dark Eldar *
Grey Knights

2011
Necrons *
Dark Angels
Eldar
Sisters *
Black Templars

*almost confirmed, heavily hinted towards

The dev's have stated that Sisters will probably be last in the 5th edition cycle. There is a lot of mystery about just how packed the next two years will be with releases, but there have been rumors about more being put out than previous years.

I've heard Chaos is being set for December of 2012...

Uriels_Flame wrote:I've heard Chaos is being set for December of 2012...

Yes i believe that Tau are also being redone in October 2012.

Where did you get this rumour from as i have never heard of anything about chaos in the next 3 years.
I have only heard up to March next year

That's not a bad list Defiler, but honestly I'd switch Dark Eldar and Grey Knights, if only because the traditional signs (codex and some units being removed from the website) have gone for them whereas you can still purchase Dark Eldar models off the website.

I don't suppose we could rename the thread and have this be the dedicated =I=/Grey Knights rumor thread?

ProfitOfTheWaaagh!!! wrote:

Uriels_Flame wrote:I've heard Chaos is being set for December of 2012...

Yes i believe that Tau are also being redone in October 2012.

Where did you get this rumour from as i have never heard of anything about chaos in the next 3 years.
I have only heard up to March next year

I believe it was a joke.

Defiler wrote:

Vlad Von Carstien wrote:oo they discontinued the Deamonhunters codex too O.o that means they are after eldar HORAY!!!

Heh.

I think looking at all the rumors and information surrounding the potential release schedule, I think it will be something like this :

2010
Tyranids
Blood Angels
Dark Eldar *
Grey Knights

2011
Necrons *
Dark Angels
Eldar
Sisters *
Black Templars

*almost confirmed, heavily hinted towards

The dev's have stated that Sisters will probably be last in the 5th edition cycle. There is a lot of mystery about just how packed the next two years will be with releases, but there have been rumors about more being put out than previous years.

bhsman wrote:That's not a bad list Defiler, but honestly I'd switch Dark Eldar and Grey Knights, if only because the traditional signs (codex and some units being removed from the website) have gone for them whereas you can still purchase Dark Eldar models off the website.

I don't suppose we could rename the thread and have this be the dedicated =I=/Grey Knights rumor thread?

Very nice to see that Sisters are very heavily hinted toward being redone, and it would be great to see another codex dedicated to the adeptas soritas alone! I also like the suggestion about changing the forum title and dedicating it.

Yeah I'm with bshman on this one. I really think GK's are coming first so they can have a big end-of-year thing with the Storm Raven and plastic GKT's.

Then do DE after that.

Well since both GKs and sisters are metal models I seriously dont think there is any "repackaging".. They only do that with plastics

So only actual options imo are new models/codex or homeworld eaten by tyranids excuse

Well, while we're on the first page we might as well get this linked. Interesting if only from the fact that it compiles GW responses on the Inquisition via email and calling them directly.

As for more solid stuff, as mentioned both Grey Knights AND Sisters have had their respective books removed in addition to some of their model sets. The same thing occurred with Space Wolves, Imperial Guard, Tyranids, and to an extent with Blood Angels in the 1-3 month period, give or take, before a codex was released.

That said, with Fantasy 8th edition popping up in little over a month, so with maybe a month break after that, we can probably assume the next codex, be it Grey Knights/Ordo Malleus, GK + all Ordos, or some combination of Sisters, GK AND the Ordos, will be somewhere around August.

Then do DE after that.

But Yakface said the DE are coming this fall with 12 new plastic boxes! Are you saying they aren't? Oh no...

The German WH and DH Codices were discontinued three years ago, a fool-proof sign that new German Codices must have been released two years ago.

If you start a news&rumour thread without news&rumours, why not at least put a question mark in the title, so as not to raise false hopes among all people annoyed by all the existing non-content DH and WH threads.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Yeah I'm with bshman on this one. I really think GK's are coming first so they can have a big end-of-year thing with the Storm Raven and plastic GKT's.

Then do DE after that.

Also, the price increases hit the Dark Eldar range, but nothing in the Inquisition range. So, I agree, I think GK are next.

....WHAT EVER HAPPEN TO TAU!!!!!.....*cries*

Kroothawk wrote:The German WH and DH Codices were discontinued three years ago, a fool-proof sign that new German Codices must have been released two years ago.

If you start a news&rumour thread without news&rumours, why not at least put a question mark in the title, so as not to raise false hopes among all people annoyed by all the existing non-content DH and WH threads.

Well, in all fairness, the German and French WH/DH codice were not discontinued per se, but rather put on the website as downloadable PDFs. They still are! I wonder if GW ever measured the effect this had on the WH/DH sales in those countries? If DH/WH sales where proportionally higher there, maybe they sould have put all codices as PFD! The "real" book would contain all the extra fluff, hobby articles, etc...

Oh well, I'm still hopping GKs are first (although I think DE also have a rightful claim!)...


Phil

It's been stated by a lot of sources that both GK and DE are coming. Not even people that have been proven to be reliable sources of rumors knew which was next but only that both were basically complete and ready to go.

The strongest source of information has been DPA stating that DE would have to wait a little longer and that GK are obscuring his vision. Well at least that's the decoded version.

And on the note of repackaging - I think the poster that stated these would be repackaged meant that the metal models were being recreated as plastics - which is heavily supported in rumors.

Kroothawk wrote:The German WH and DH Codices were discontinued three years ago, a fool-proof sign that new German Codices must have been released two years ago.

Beaten, but they were put up as downloadable pdfs immediately afterwards. I'd just consider than an outlier.

Platuan4th wrote:

ProfitOfTheWaaagh!!! wrote:

Uriels_Flame wrote:I've heard Chaos is being set for December of 2012...

Yes i believe that Tau are also being redone in October 2012.

Where did you get this rumour from as i have never heard of anything about chaos in the next 3 years.
I have only heard up to March next year

I believe it was a joke.

Tau got an upgrade last edition. DE, GK and WH are woefully behind...so dont cry out just yet. Wait until they are two editions behind to cry.


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BTW, that was supposed to sound funny thecadianparatrooper

H.B.M.C. wrote:Yeah I'm with bshman on this one. I really think GK's are coming first so they can have a big end-of-year thing with the Storm Raven and plastic GKT's.

Then do DE after that.

Why do I keep seeing people linking the release of the Stormraven with the release of Grey Knights? There is no real reason that the two be released at the same time. Some assert that linking them together will result in a huge sales splurge, but there really aren't that many people who play GK's, and there never have been that many (when compared to pretty much any other MEq).

Saldiven wrote:Why do I keep seeing people linking the release of the Stormraven with the release of Grey Knights? There is no real reason that the two be released at the same time.

The reason that many believe the SR will be released with the Grey Knights, is that the Stormraven entry in the Blood Angel codex states that the Grey Knights also use it. So it does make some sense as sort of a a combined GK / 'Blood Angel Wave 2' release.

Saldiven wrote:Some assert that linking them together will result in a huge sales splurge, but there really aren't that many people who play GK's, and there never have been that many (when compared to pretty much any other MEq).

Well, the two main reasons for that are expensive metal models and an outdated codex. Both which would be (at least partially) solved with a new release. I know I'd make a GK army if their new models and codex are half decent.

bhsman wrote:Well, while we're on the first page we might as well get this linked. Interesting if only from the fact that it compiles GW responses on the Inquisition via email and calling them directly.

To anyone who hasn't read that link, go read it now. Lots of somewhat grounded rumor and speculation going on.

If Grey Knights get a new release, my orks will be put on hold, and they will be many celebratory crotch-thrusts.

Thanks for posting the link, lots of useful stuff in there.

S_P

Space_Potato wrote:If Grey Knights get a new release, my orks will be put on hold, and they will be many celebratory crotch-thrusts.

Yes, many, many crotch-thrusts.

Well at my local GW they pulled all the WH and DH off of the shelves last week and said that they were about to be redone.

I jokingly asked if these lists were going to disappear altogether and got no straight response.

Hopefully the black shirt didn't want to tip his hat to what was going to happen. But cancelation would be terrible.

Overall a grey knights army right now is not expensive. Get 2 land raiders, 2-3 squads of PAGKs and a squad of terminators. Add in a Dreadnought and there you go.

Also there have been rumors of a storm raven and it's a rumor to be coming out with grey knights. Whether or not there are a lot of grey knights does not matter since this model is also applicable to blood angels players. There has been a lot more grounding for that rumor than for plastic stormtroopers - which is also flying around. The problem is that no one knows what role the inquisition will play in the GK codex.

Flat out saying a rumor is not true and has no basis doesn't do much good when the counter arguments are giving proof of why it is plausible. If you have concrete evidence that it is not coming out then that would be great but rumors are based upon what is likely to happen - thus them being rumors.

What we know:
-Grey Knights are being redone
-PAGKs are most likely getting plastic models
-GKTs are most liklely getting plastic models
-Storm Raven is rumored to be included in the codex and a possible first wave model/second wave Blood angels model
-Lots of ignore invulnerable saves
-Possible rule to ignore instant death with force weapon
-Central focus on grey knights
-Possible Jetbike character
-Landspeeder type fast attack vehicle

Search out posts from Deamon Primach Aldermeach and Stickymonkey on warseer. Also, check out the heresy-online thread.

Right now everything is up in the air and no one knows what is coming for sure besides spearhead in June.

bhsman wrote:

Space_Potato wrote:If Grey Knights get a new release, my orks will be put on hold, and they will be many celebratory crotch-thrusts.

Yes, many, many crotch-thrusts.

Thrusts for everyone!!

S_P