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Bigred wrote:The Night Spinner rules are out via the latest White Dwarf. Here's what the Eldar are getting:

Night Spinner

72" S:6 AP: - Large Blast, Barrage, Rending, Twin-Linked, too!
Any units hit moves as in difficult and dangerous terrain during their next turn.
BS:3
12/12/10 Fast, Skimmer, Tank
Linked Shuriken Catapult

Standard Eldar vehicle upgrades apply.
NOT a transport.
Costs the same as a Fire Prism

From the BoLS Lounge.

Any red text is an edit in by me.

The big gun is Twin-Linked too.

Aduro wrote:The big gun is Twin-Linked too.

That'll be nasty if they pop open one of my Sisters' rhinos...

Rather nasty against `Nids too.

Could even spring for AP6?

someone a week ago posted that the upcoming white dwarf would have word of the inquisition codices being posted on the GW website in downloadable form, ala the old blood angel codex. any mention of the various *fill in scum*hunters online?

H.B.M.C. wrote:Could even spring for AP6?

IS it AP6? I've not heard that.


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Warboss: Yes.

Not what I was saying.

I'm saying that it's odd they gave it AP-. I mean, AP6 ain't much, but it's something.

both =I= books? if so, they won't be updated for a while... sigh...

Well I'm going to ask a question here. According to the rule of rending Any rolls of 6 with a rending weapon automatically causes a wound, regardless of the target toughness and counts as ap2. Against vehicles, an armour penetration roll of 6 allows to a further D3 to be rolled. So if you pen a vehicle (due to a rend) does it count as AP2 or AP- when rolling for the damage result?

Grey Knights will probably be done within the next six months. We got a LOT of rumors for it, more than we did for Dark Eldar.

But this thread isn't about that.

Sisters are in PA, so they'll be OK for the most part.

Just like in 2E, all you really got to do is make your Armor Save.

Now Orks & Guard, well, it'll be messy...

Necrosis wrote:[snip]
Against vehicles, an armour penetration roll of 6 allows to a further D3 to be rolled. So if you pen a vehicle (due to a rend) does it count as AP2 or AP- when rolling for the damage result?

You answered your own question.


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JohnHwangDD wrote:Sisters are in PA, so they'll be OK for the most part.

Just like in 2E, all you really got to do is make your Armor Save.

Now Orks & Guard, well, it'll be messy...

Rending says otherwise. A Large Blast Rending is nasty, especially since it's strength 6... thus instant death to Canonesses.

It doesn't look much, and it costs the same as a fire prism? Talk about a wasted effort I don't think anyone is gonna bring one save for some kind of unique theme. I think if costed less it would be worth taking but you might as well go with the prism. Just my opinion though.

So it would count as AP - meaning they would have a -1 to the damage roll.

I believe so, yes. Unless it says that it counts as AP2 on vehicles when you get Rending.... which I don't think it does.

@Melissa: Rend is only on a 6, not automatic.

Penetrating and glancing hits inflicted by a weapon shown as 'Ap-' suffer a modifier of -1. It says shown as which confuses me, also one could argue vs vehicles you don't count as ap 2 due to the way the two sentences are worded.

Eh, I still find it rather powerful. Never said that it was OP mind you (it's tame compared to the LRBT).

I guess it will be useful vs horde armies, but I agree with Luthon1234 in that I'd spring for a fireprism first.

Man, that thing will be nasty if it penetrates one of my Dark Eldar Raiders...

And it causes instant death to my Archon too!

Ouch!

Bah, I forgot to check if you could take Squadrons of them.

looks like my boys are going to need to find some heavy cover to avoid that things direct fire

All the above is accurate, however the 'Difficult/Dangerous' thing remains until the next time the unit moves, not just the next movement phase. Which is pretty nice, no?

Making a large unit of boyz move as difficult / dangerous would be horrific...as murderous hurricane shows.

For the costs "barrage" is great, as you can hide it away and pound away, using it to ignore any intervening cover - so you have to be in terrain or KFF range. lovely. The rending just adds a nice spice to it

Mmm it made me wee a little.






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They always use the same chassis. Annoying. Every vehicle should look different darn it.

OoieGoie wrote:They always use the same chassis. Annoying. Every vehicle should look different darn it.

Yeah, just like Imperial Guard, Space Marines, and Tau, amirite?

They always use the same chassis. Annoying. Every vehicle should look different darn it.

Funny you should say that, as it IS a different chassis from the existing kits:

Nice rules combined with a nice model. Two packs pulease!

Greets
Schepp himself

P.S. The driver of the night spinner should close his hatch properly, though...

@SlaveToDorkness - how is that a different chassis?

If you mean the panel on the lower left that's an add-on to the standard falcon chassis...