Forgeworld 2019 News & Rumours-BA Dawnbreakers Pg 163

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**whalemusic360**

The regional price difference on this new Titan is pretty nuts. 980gbp, which comes to $1250 usd. Or if I order from FW US, $1515 usd. It would be cheaper to have someone mail it to me from across the pond.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

There are those willing to help you out there

Sadly, not within the purview of the Loot Group itself (we've got various GW managers in the group, and we'd rather avoid treading on toes, given they've shown us a lot of goodwill with bulk ordering).

But certain members (like, I dunno....me) would be happy to sort that for you. Wouldn't even need you to send the money to me. I just give you my address, you get it shipped to me, and then we sort postage once I know the weight and dimension. Easy peasy, lemon squeezey. (I would of course make a cursory check of the contents before posting on, just to make sure they're all present, correct and not bashed up).

**whalemusic360**

Not in the intimidate future for me, but will def keep it in mind!

**MajorWesJanson**

The 40k rules seem much cleaned up from the index rules for titans. Maybe we will see the other patterns rereleased with the new wordings?

**Formosa**

New from forge world

**Valkyrie**

Honestly can't say I'm impressed with the Nemesis rules. It's just as I predicted; 2x Reaver weapons, 2x Quadguns that can only shoot things with Fly, and a standard Warlord Quake Cannon by the looks of it.

**Erren**

Really like that new 30k infantry. I don’t plan on getting any Mechanicum, but I might get that Praevian anyways.

I miss old FW pricing, though.

**Quasistellar**

Sigh, that praevian just makes me wonder why they don't make any 40k Iron Hands characters or units :(

Vigilus isn't that far from Medusa. . . yet we got Space Wolves already (which to be fair are also nearby)

**Inquisitor Gideon**

"Dave? Dave! Come look at this new watch I got! It's got the Emperor's face on and everything!"

**tneva82**

Valkyrie wrote:
Honestly can't say I'm impressed with the Nemesis rules. It's just as I predicted; 2x Reaver weapons, 2x Quadguns that can only shoot things with Fly, and a standard Warlord Quake Cannon by the looks of it.

Indirect quake cannon.

But what did you expect? It's class between them designed to have warlord class weapons in smaller and thus cheaper platform.

**Slayer-Fan123**

I love that Power Claw the Contemptor has. Shame I want mine to have Chainfists as otherwise I'd be buying that arm by itself.

**Brutus_Apex**

That Blood Angels stuff looks fantastic.

**Haighus**

I spent awhile looking at the autoloader on the back of the Nemesis titan. Really cool model. It appears to have two hoppers, each with a loading boom that extracts rounds, before swivelling up to feed them into the revolver chambers.

I imagine other guns will come with their own ammunition supplies relevant to the weapon, like giant plasma canisters for the Sunfury, or huge capacitors for the Volcano cannon.

**changemod**

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
I love that Power Claw the Contemptor has. Shame I want mine to have Chainfists as otherwise I'd be buying that arm by itself.

Generally people run the claws as chainfists and the fists as power fists because the claws have no rules and the official chainfists look awful.

**Kid_Kyoto**

The rules don't include the nipple guns?

**Haighus**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
The rules don't include the nipple guns?

It does- those are the Ardex-defensor Mauler bolt cannons. The third one is on the back, in the lumbar region above the hips.

**Slayer-Fan123**

changemod wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
I love that Power Claw the Contemptor has. Shame I want mine to have Chainfists as otherwise I'd be buying that arm by itself.

Generally people run the claws as chainfists and the fists as power fists because the claws have no rules and the official chainfists look awful.

Honestly I think the Chainfists are so awful and crude that it's...almost charming in its own way.

That said I hadn't thought it was a great Counts As, but if everyone else is doing it...

**BaronIveagh**

I think my Guard is showing, I looked at the separately sold quake cannon and immediately began planning a Leviathan.

**MajorWesJanson**

The quake cannon is sold separately, but do the ammo hoppers on the back come with the body or the gun?

**Peregrine**

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
I love that Power Claw the Contemptor has. Shame I want mine to have Chainfists as otherwise I'd be buying that arm by itself.

It's just the regular claw arm.

**Tavis75**

MajorWesJanson wrote:
The quake cannon is sold separately, but do the ammo hoppers on the back come with the body or the gun?

That's a good point, I just thought they were counterweights with some kind of mechanism to move them as the gun fires, but they do look more like ammo hoppers now that I look at them again. However the images on the FW website suggest that they come with the titan body rather than the gun, so that would seem a bit strange if we get different guns in the future as they'd then be redundant. As someone else mentioned, it would make more sense if the other guns came with appropriate replacements, plasma cells, batteries etc. Unless of course they change the whole body for the different guns, but then why sell the macro cannon separately?

Will hopefully get a better idea next weekend when mine (hopefully) turns up.

**Tavis75**

Watching a YouTube video last night with someone who had chatted to Will Hayes at the open day and they confirmed that those are ammo hoppers on the back of the body, so that seems a bit of an issue if the images on the FW website are accurate and they do come with the body rather than the gun. Hopefully the images are wrong, or if not, if they do release other carapace weapons that they at least come with replacements for the ammo hoppers.

There was also a mention of alternative weapons for the Anti-air mounts, but again as those come with the body then it would seem to be a case of having to replace the originals.

Maybe they'll modify what comes with the kit in the future but that would seem a slightly odd way to do it and maybe shows a lack of communication between the designer and the people deciding how to sell stuff. Also makes it a little more awkward for future-proofing with magnetization etc. as it will be less clear exactly which parts will be part of which item.

**Slayer-Fan123**

Peregrine wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
I love that Power Claw the Contemptor has. Shame I want mine to have Chainfists as otherwise I'd be buying that arm by itself.

It's just the regular claw arm.

I legit didn't even know it was an option until now. It's just one of those items I missed I guess.

**AndrewGPaul**

The other weapon options are energy weapons, so it'll be simple enough to sculpt additional parts that go over the ammo hoppers to convert them into power cells.

**H.B.M.C.**

Hmm... if the gun is sold separately and not a complete part of this nutritious breakfast, does that imply possible expansions for other things that might go on top?

**Overread**

Yes, however it could also be that its just how the FW website is designed at the back end when it comes to selling big titans. Ergo they might or might not release another back gun, but even if they don't its still an "extra" ontop of the core body chassis.

**tneva82**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Hmm... if the gun is sold separately and not a complete part of this nutritious breakfast, does that imply possible expansions for other things that might go on top?

Yes. Volcano cannon is mentioned as example. (specifically the warlord scaled one rather than reaver scaled one)

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

I'm hoping for a Support Missile.

Those are always a laff.

**tneva82**

That would be unlikely. New titan is cross between reaver and warlord with warlord grade weapons on carapace. Support missile is at least currently reaver weapon. Warlord might have had support missile long time ago but not ATM. So I would be looking more of what weapons warlords carry now to see possibilities. Obvious ones being sunfury plasma and bellicosa volcano cannon plus possibility macro gatling blaster.

That missile would need to be whole new type of missile which for some reason reaver cannot carry.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

There's bound to be people who want a titan but can't really afford the whole thing so buy it in bits

and once they've bought one bit they're committed to getting the rest as they've got money invested

so selling the gun by itself helps GW (eventually) sell the titan to go with it