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**Skizzik_NZ**

I need some colour SOB art for a banner that I will be making as soon as I can find pics for it, but all the SOB images I can find are in black and white. Please help.

Thanks

Skizzik

**Kroothawk**

No problem:

**Space_Potato**

Here you go

S_P

**WARBOSS TZOO**

Can't help, pretty much all of my Sisters arts is not safe for work.

**Melissia**

**SagesStone**

Second one is gone. I like the third one the best

**Melissia**

Fixed the link to the second one. It's a cropped screenshot from C:SoB.

Personally, I favor the first one (from Sheason on DeviantArt).

**Wyvern**

I feel sorry for the Nids in the Warhammer 40Chibi one, they look so cute! Leave the poor things alone, evil SoB's! Get it, because it also means Sons of....oh never mind.

**WARBOSS TZOO**

I first saw the 40chibi pic years ago, but I only just realised that there's three Nids in it. Mind == Blown.

**Kroothawk**

More seriously:

Wallpaper: http://www.ljplus.ru/img4/f/i/first_keeper/Adepta-Sororitas.jpg
Cosplay: http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs48/i/2009/212/f/3/Adepta_Sororitas_by_grimdarkkommissar.jpg

But then again, for a banner you should better google for Fleur de Lis:

**Azezel**

I wish I had the source pic for that last one...

**Melissia**

Azezel wrote:http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q101/MCP1/1210963706232.jpg

"Why won't my hips un-sway?"

**Nitros14**

Some of these cartoons are deeply frightening.

**Kroothawk**

Nitros14 wrote:Some of these cartoons are deeply frightening.

Just wait until you see the NSFW stuff

**warboss**

here's one of a female in 40k with a believable 3+ save... somehow a leather corset doesn't scream 3+ power armor to me.

**Melissia**

warboss wrote:here's one of a female in 40k with a believable 3+ save... somehow a leather corset doesn't scream 3+ power armor to me.

Good thing it's not leather then. I hate the corsets myself, and the boob-cups, and the metal garter belts and crap, but John Blanche's horrible gakky pieces of crap that masquerade as artwork aside (Which is what the Sisters chest area was supposedly inspired by, despite the fact that John Blanche can't draw women to save his life) Sisters armor is exactly that-- armor.

Also dude, no. NO! Don't do that. Do not bring up female Space Marines in this thread.

Sisters of Battle are NOT female Space Marines. They never have been.

**warboss**

Melissia wrote:
Sisters of Battle are female Space Marines. They always have been.

i fixed your quote.

here's one of an actual sister nest to a scale IG and SM; still doesn't look 3+ to me (or even powered other than the backpack but at least i can explain that part away). and the obligatory "i'm sexy but not trying to be" SOB pic. personally, i'd love for the SOB to fill the spot directly inbetween IG and SM (heck, i was trying to get an army of them for that reason but the ebay prices for them are actually close to retail). half the skills of a marine (bs4 but ws3), the boltgun of the SM, the physical stats of an IG (s/t/i 3) and armor inbetween (4+) for the standard sister with 'eavy nuns in the elite or heavy support slots with modelled bulkier (read less sexy) 3+ armor.

**Melissia**

Sisters wear power armor, the gakky design of hte power armor because of John Blanche being a crappy, perverted artist notwithstanding. This is kinda how they should be, too. If they had a 4+ save they'd basically be IG veterans...

**warboss**

Melissia wrote:Sisters wear power armor, the gakky design of hte power armor because of John Blanche being a crappy, perverted artist notwithstanding. This is kinda how they should be, too. If they had a 4+ save they'd basically be IG veterans...

hey, if they redesign the armor to make a believeable 3+ save, i'm there with you. you can have a believable 3+ save and still appeal to (im)mature gamers (ie. be sexy). the current line of sisters just don't have one in my opinion.

i'd love to find a mini that could do the pic below justice but i haven't and my greenstuff skills are quite limited. samus has a believeable 3+ save and i'd love to use her as a power armor equiped inquisitor. also, one of the SOB pics above is a believeable 3+ armor (hint: it's not the one where her iliac crests are showing under her tshirt/armorbreastplate).

**Melissia**

Or like these two:

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a28/melissiablackheart/Other/1210250022443.jpg
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a28/melissiablackheart/Sister_of_Battle_final_by_Sheason.jpg

**pretre**

Melissia wrote:Sisters wear power armor, the gakky design of hte power armor because of John Blanche being a crappy, perverted artist notwithstanding. This is kinda how they should be, too. If they had a 4+ save they'd basically be IG veterans...

I still don't get all the hate for sister's power armor. Keep in mind that there are only 7 categories in the whole universe:

2+: Walking Tank
3+: Heavily Armored
4+: Medium Armor
5+: Light Armor
6+: Armor is for Wussies
-: What armor?

There has to be a certain amount of squinting past broad categories of armor in order for the game to work. The same as with BS/WS, Str, T, etc.
Is a Sister's Power Armor give as much protection as SM power armor? Probably not, but it is close enough.
Is an IG Vet really as good a shot as a 500 yr old Space Marine? Probably not, but it is close enough.

As for the 'leather corsets don't protect you' stuff, I'm not sure where the 'leather' part comes from. Sister armor is constructed of ceramite, etc, just like a marines. It is just smaller to accomodate the fact that they are not 8ft tall mountains of muscle.

Lastly, I happen to like the design and concept of Sister's power armor. Even if it is 'Corsets and High Heels', it still is visually striking and unique on the battle field. It differentiates them from girl marines or Samus lookalikes (which that last example shot was).

**Melissia**

pretre wrote:Is a Sister's Power Armor give as much protection as SM power armor?

Actually yes, C:WH specifically says that it does.

**Kroothawk**

Melissia wrote:Sisters wear power armor, the gakky design of hte power armor because of John Blanche being a crappy, perverted artist notwithstanding. This is kinda how they should be, too. If they had a 4+ save they'd basically be IG veterans...

If you hate the design and the rules of Sororitas: Nobody forces you tp buy and play them.

**warboss**

pretre wrote:
Melissia wrote:Sisters wear power armor, the gakky design of hte power armor because of John Blanche being a crappy, perverted artist notwithstanding. This is kinda how they should be, too. If they had a 4+ save they'd basically be IG veterans...

I still don't get all the hate for sister's power armor. Keep in mind that there are only 7 categories in the whole universe:

2+: Walking Tank
3+: Heavily Armored
4+: Medium Armor
5+: Light Armor
6+: Armor is for Wussies
-: What armor?

There has to be a certain amount of squinting past broad categories of armor in order for the game to work. The same as with BS/WS, Str, T, etc.
Is a Sister's Power Armor give as much protection as SM power armor? Probably not, but it is close enough.
Is an IG Vet really as good a shot as a 500 yr old Space Marine? Probably not, but it is close enough.

As for the 'leather corsets don't protect you' stuff, I'm not sure where the 'leather' part comes from. Sister armor is constructed of ceramite, etc, just like a marines. It is just smaller to accomodate the fact that they are not 8ft tall mountains of muscle.

Lastly, I happen to like the design and concept of Sister's power armor. Even if it is 'Corsets and High Heels', it still is visually striking and unique on the battle field. It differentiates them from girl marines or Samus lookalikes (which that last example shot was).

the problem is that, in general, it doesn't look like "3+: heavily armored" to alot of gamers. it looks like a leather corset and stripper boots combined with a velvet cape half the time. the "look" is what i'm talking about; i completely agree that the fluff gives them fully fledged power armor. it's just that the models and most art (by virtue of placing sexy over protection) doesn't. this is actually the pic i was talking about regarding a sis with 3+ looking armor.

and here's a bit more sister art spam... of the 4+ but sexy variety.

**Melissia**

Which is a gross oversimplification of anything I've ever said on the subject, isn't it?

Regardless...

I like the fluff of the Sisters. I like the general design of the armor aside from the chest/abdomen (indeed, Sisters have the best looking helmet in 40k, and I do enjoy the limbs and shoulder plates as well). I like their playstyle, and it suits my naturally aggressive personality quite well.

However: The fluff needs expansion, and very few sources actually give the Sisters any respect. Soulstorm-- yes, that fluff disaster that was the last DoW1 expansion-- gave the Sisters more respect than Black Library does despite all of its myriad flaws. GW's fluff doesn't really show much respect for the Sisters, BL's fluff doesn't really show much respect for the Sisters, and quite a bit of fanfiction doesn't either. It's strange, GW seems to enjoy bashing the Sisters just as much as one of the prepubescent brats that bash Sisters with epithets about kitchens. The chest/abdomen region needs reworking to make it less idiotic looking (I'd prefer the chestplate look something like this myself, remniscent of the plate armor of medieval times, with a single Fleur de Lys on the middle and sectioned plate under it covering the abdomen like Marines). And finally, the rules are very much out of date and need expansion.

Just because I believe there's a lot of room for improvement does not mean I do not like the faction overall.

**pretre**

warboss wrote:
the problem is that, in general, it doesn't look like "3+: heavily armored" to alot of gamers. it looks like a leather corset and stripper boots combined with a velvet cape half the time. the "look" is what i'm talking about; i completely agree that the fluff gives them fully fledged power armor. it's just that the models and most art (by virtue of placing sexy over protection) doesn't. this is actually the pic i was talking about regarding a sis with 3+ looking armor.
and here's a bit more sister art spam... of the 4+ but sexy variety.

But it is all about the materials. Eldar armor doesn't look like 4+ to me, it looks like 5+ body glove but is made of wraitbone and puppydog tails and magic so gets a 4+... I don't see a big difference between Crisis and Broadsides, but there is and they get a 2+ out of having heavier guns on their shoulders and 'thicker' armor plate or somesuch.

If the corsets and stripper boots are made of Ceramite and the velvet cape is Kevlar with Adamantine strips sewn in, then yeah, it's a 3+, regardless of if you think it is in poor taste.

I'm not saying that Sisters aren't aimed at 'sexy', but I also don't know that there is a problem here.

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I'm not saying that I wouldn't welcome a redesign, but I also think that existing design is pretty fine.

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(No pun intended)

**warboss**

i'm making a new thread to discuss the matter of SOB armor. you can find it below:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/297901.page

**Kroothawk**

Melissia wrote:... it suits my naturally aggressive personality quite well.

You don't say!

Anyway, I have read only two novels with Sororitas participation, "Faith and Fire" and "Grey Knights" (BTW have you read this novel? You never mention it), and both show respect for the Sisters. By far more than Goto's Eldar novels show for Eldar. And more than most BL novels show for Xenos (hopefully this will change with the upcoming Eldar-novels by fluff-master Gav). While an expansion of fluff is always nice, the 2nd edition Codex gave the Sisters a larger amount of background information that Tau, Necrons, Tyranids and Dark Eldar can ever hope for.

And the chest armour is an obvious nod to the tastes of the male target customers. And at the same time, it is by far the favorite 40k cosplay costume among women. Maybe the design is not that perverted and bad at all.

**Melissia**

Nope, I want to though.

But I'm thinking like Redemption Corps or Cain's Last Stand, where the authors basically whimsically decide entire Orders of Sisters turn to Chaos on the drop of a hat. As much as I like Cain's Last Stand, Sandy Mitchel has yet to prove that he can actually write Sisters and give them any respect, so I'm iffy on his upcoming book which is supposedly a Sisters book.

As for my comment about GW not respecting Sisters, just look at how many times GW uses Sisters as a scratching post. I recall a story about Tau destroying Sisters, I know Necrons ripped apart Sanctuary 101 with basically no reprisal, Orks tore apart the Sisters on Armageddon, and the Sisters, though present on Cadia, basically have zero fluff there on how they performed. And all of the Sisters characters are dead, we have no "modern" ones. And I think FW had a bunch of Sisters dying, too, due to an Inquisitorial snafu. Basically they're making the Sisters out to be an entire army based off of the Lamenters, only they're female and human. I can't even remember the last time Gw made Sisters fluff where the Sisters actually WON the goddamned battle they participated in. C:WH mentions a few, but it's like six examples in a single paragraph that get less than a sentence each.

It's no wonder to me why people don't buy into it. Even Eldar win battles every now and then despite being a failing race... nobody likes to play the army that sucks and always loses.

**Kroothawk**

Well, "Grey Knights" is one of my favorite BL novels, Sororitas do well in battle and there is even an interesting female Inquisitor character in it (not related to the Sororitas, before you ask

). Nice plot. Have fun.

BTW FW invented their own IG regiment, the Elysian Drop Troops, and they never won a single battle in FW books