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Jayden63 wrote:Then to add insult to injury 80% of everything they took out of the Chaos codex they gave to the Imperials.

That's not entirely accurate. Take the Dark Blade vs Relic Blade for example. Sure they took the Dark Blade out of the Chaos codex, but that's just because a +2 Str power weapon that requires mastery tests and is 1 per army is seriously overpowered. Now the Relic Blade on the other hand, while sort of similar, is actually totally different if you think about it because it doesn't require mastery tests and isn't 1 per army, and instead of giving it to the Chaos Lord you give it to the Chapter Master and he doesn't afraid of anything.

NuggzTheNinja wrote:Let's look at anti-mech squads. Chosen w/ 4 meltaguns vs... nothing. Nothing in the vanilla Marine dex has anything that can squeeze so many meltaguns in a squad except for Sternguard with combimeltas. Big deal. Overpriced and one hit wonders.

Yeah, Chosen are awesome. Just think about it - these guys are Heresy era veterans who have survived nightmarish conflicts spanning 10,000 years of blood and death. And that's why they can infiltrate and take 4 meltaguns. Total badasses.