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2007/01/08 12:56:28
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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there is one thing and one thing only keeping a movie of any calibre being done............... the starbucks drinking, bradjolina watching, suv driving sheep we call the general public. they would just not get the concept. and the violence that would need to be in the movie to make it credible to us gw fans would have soccer mom's and cult's (what i call every religion in the world) panties in a bunch. they just would not understand what is being showed to them.
i also think that gw is right in wanting to be in every part of the making of the movie if that is the case. could you trust dreamworks or any other cg companies out there to do the movie justice? they would take a 40k based movie and change it so much that even diehard 40k fans wouldn't know it was based off of 40k. so many comic and game movies get changed so much just to appeal to the sheep.
people are talking about what books and all the movie(s) should be based off of. i think the only real choice would be something like the eisenhorn trilogy or even 15 hours. audiences could be introduced into the world of 40k slowly. and not just thrown into epic battles like armageddon and not know where it's taking place and why. also with a movie based on eisenhorn the audience can understand and get into the characters. the love that can't be between eisenhorn and elizabeth, eisenhorn's struggle with the ordo's especially his own. than there is the whole detective part of the books that could play well in a movie. and we all could still have are epic battles with cool weapons. come on how awesome would be the parade scene be? or the battle with the titan?
what we should ask for is a maybe not as good graphic movie like the one in dow. but something that is decent. as long as people aren't too picky i think it could be done relatively cheaply and just put on dvd and sold in gw stores and rogue trader stores. although that's probably not a viable choice either.
if people want a 40k movie why not make one yourselves? even if it's a 5 minute one. you can use programs like flash or something similar and make a cartoon movie. than you all can see how hard and how much time it takes to make even something simple let alone the cost to something like an epic block buster. i would actually try making my own but i just don't have the resources to make one. and halfway decent programs that allow you to do "movies" are just too expensive for me.
now if a group of people decided to get together and make one i would be up to helping out. especially if someone could let me use programs like flash or photoshop :p
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2007/01/08 14:05:38
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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hehe .. i make movies, I own part of an indie film company.. no way would I even dream of making a 40K movie at this point because without real funding it'll never come out right... and the amt of work that would be involved, even in a 5 minute concept trailer is insane. If your serious about the art, you either need tons of money and on top of that tons of time.. If you just buy a cheap mini DV camera and have all your friends acting in it in fakey costumes, it will look like just that and the only people that will ever see it are your friends. Now, if our next film is a runaway success and everyone loves us and we make a bazillion dollars off it (a 1 in 87499748238933 3 chance) then maybe I'd think of trying to convince my friends/parters, who think 40K is the nerdiest thing in the world, that it would be a good idea
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2007/01/08 18:58:58
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
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turth be told there was actually a gw moive in the works before lotr came along but when GW saw the CGI bang they would get for their buck they went back to the drawing borad six months later they were approached to do lotr and the moive went to the bin. I saw the CGI shorts that they did and its a good thing it got canned.
Now with the Dawn Of War level of CGI however I think its time the moive went back up on the borad
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2007/01/09 00:18:34
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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Posted By Red on 01/08/2007 11:58 PM turth be told there was actually a gw moive in the works before lotr came along but when GW saw the CGI bang they would get for their buck they went back to the drawing borad six months later they were approached to do lotr and the moive went to the bin. I saw the CGI shorts that they did and its a good thing it got canned. Now with the Dawn Of War level of CGI however I think its time the moive went back up on the borad Bloodquest! Man, how could I forget that continually-pushed-back-and-then-abandoned Blood Angels flick by Exile Films ... About that time there was also the GorkaMorka game for Saturn/Dreamcast in development, which likewise went TU ... - Boss Salvage
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2007/01/09 23:50:50
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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RogueSangre
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The problem with a 40k movie is that at its core 40k is not very accessible to the average movie-goer. Movie studios would want to "hollywoodize" it in order to make it more appealing to the masses. 40k is brutal, dystopian, and hopeless and that just doesn't gel with the kind of "safe" formulaic Hollywood fare studios want for big-budget popcorn movies. But without the dark gothic atmosphere 40k is just boring, generic (not to mention incredibly derivative) sci-fi. Don't fool yourselves - a 40k movie would be more Wing Commander than Blade Runner.
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2007/01/10 07:32:45
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Ok so what would the movie be about?? that wont offend a group of people some were?? remember the Bible belt in the South was lot of pull still ??(I know I use to live therefor a ffew years.)
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2007/01/10 12:19:59
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The trators hand its Sandy mitchell 3ed ciaphas cain book and its perfect. ig vs cultists and 3 korne bizerkersand a slaneesh demon you dont really need the other 2 because there memoirs, and there esey to fallow, to show more background we can do what they did in the ps2 game Fire warrior, witch is read that whole "it is the forty firse mellenium and there is only war" as for pulling it off i got lodes of friends who are good with computer tech (one desines web sites for big companys andf is working on his custom compter game) i'm o.k. with wood working and i got more frends in our highscools film making clube and even more frends who just sit around who would help so who lives in or around C.T. U.S.A?
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Dakka, entropic Immortal, Destroyer of Disease and Fighter against Destruction Behold I have returned! After a year and a half in the USMC I decided I needed my hobbie back In a man to man fight the winneris he who has one more round in his magazine. -Erwin Rommel page 50 of Infantry Attacks |
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2007/01/10 15:05:24
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Personally, the backstory is deep enough for 40k and WHFB that a 2ish hour movie can not do it justice. An anime series(I believe WHFB is popular there) might work.
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2007/02/06 10:28:03
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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found another one this one dosent look half bad except i think there speeking german http://www.damnatus.com/
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Dakka, entropic Immortal, Destroyer of Disease and Fighter against Destruction Behold I have returned! After a year and a half in the USMC I decided I needed my hobbie back In a man to man fight the winneris he who has one more round in his magazine. -Erwin Rommel page 50 of Infantry Attacks |
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2007/02/06 10:31:23
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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Foul Dwimmerlaik
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lol yeah, the 40K movie that is forever in production and is promised to be released every few months. I have given up on it, and it shows. They dont even bother trying to tell you it will be released in any timely manner any more, as its just in audio limbo right now supposedly. But then again, its not like we will have to pay to see it or anything.
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2007/02/06 17:00:15
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
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I am still hopeful for Damnatus, as they have already declared picture lock. Surely most of it is already done.
GW might be puting an oar in at this strage, but it would not be in their interest to squash it. If anything they might endorse it.
Back in the early 90's GW did cooperate over movie rights, however the production team stung GW over the research budget. GW kept on paying while they looked into how to film a story based on Deathwing but gave up paying up. They have been rather reticent since, and this time I dont blame them.
It is only recently that something like 40K became filmable at all.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. |
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2007/02/06 17:17:45
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
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After taking another look at the Damnatus site I read there is no new news since the picture lock anouncement in October last year. Sound is not yet complete. This does make sense though. Damnatus was filmed in German, and will have to be localised into English before release. This will mean correct dubbing, lip sync and redigitisation of background sounds that are lost when the German is removed. I would prefer to watch the film with subtitles, but an english language release was promised from the outset, may be required for GW to actually come around to the project and will be required by most of the fans - and 40K is far more available through the English speaking world. Damnatus is a fan production without licence. usually such productions are allowed to continue. Even George Lucas didnt tread on IP infringement of fanj productions like Troops (he is normally very litigious over IP infringement) - its generally not worth treading on the toes of the fanbase by punishing freeware amateur 'tribute' productions. GW may well go a step further, Damnatus is likely to be the only 40K film in the forseeable future, and the quality appears high - though even Highlander 2 had a decent trailer. It will be well worth their interest to see the film and if approved endorse Damnatus in return for a %, this will allow the producers to air it on network television and make some video sales. This will of course be lucrative for the producers, who would otherwise have to copyleft the production for free. More importantly for GW's sake an endorsed prodcution as opposed to a legal limbo fan production will be screenable on television. Here in the Uk channel 4 would take up a film like this. Sci Fi and Sky would jump at the opportunity to screen - after all it will likely be much cheaper to screen Damnatus than any commercially produced movie. This is all GW really needs, 40K won't do well in thebox office however it is packaged - its way too politically incorrect for mainstream. But late night terrestrial TV and satellite broadcast would to them be a 2hr plug for 40k - and one they get paid for! If they have any sense, and if Damnatus is any good - 'Chapter Approved' status is the way to go. Complete with logo. Its money for nothing. The trouble is business sense is in short supply in GW HQ, I wouldnt be suprised if this opportunity just sailed by.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. |
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2007/02/06 23:54:42
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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Battlefield Tourist
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A 40K film would be terrible.Even original and well written fantasy and science fiction is generally badly adapted. And GW have waaaaay too many things they nicked from others. In fact, I can't think of anything from 40K that didn't show up somewhere else first, bar the idea of psykers navigating space ships. And that's probably only because I haven't looked hard enough.
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2007/02/07 00:52:31
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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Master of the Hunt
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Posted By Da Boss on 02/07/2007 4:54 AM In fact, I can't think of anything from 40K that didn't show up somewhere else first, bar the idea of psykers navigating space ships. And that's probably only because I haven't looked hard enough. Hint: "Fear is the mind-killer."
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"It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the seed of Arabica that thoughts acquire speed, the teeth acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion." |
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2007/02/07 02:42:41
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I WILL Kill him!
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2007/02/07 03:01:33
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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Posted By blue loki on 02/07/2007 5:52 AM Posted By Da Boss on 02/07/2007 4:54 AM In fact, I can't think of anything from 40K that didn't show up somewhere else first, bar the idea of psykers navigating space ships. And that's probably only because I haven't looked hard enough. Hint: "Fear is the mind-killer." They ripped navagators off from Franklin D. Roosevelt's inaugural address?
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2007/02/07 03:16:08
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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[SWAP SHOP MOD]
Barpharanges
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The Spice must flow
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2007/02/07 03:26:19
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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Battlefield Tourist
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Duuuurrr.Yup, I'm pretty stupid for missing that one alright. I blame my headcold
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2007/02/07 05:13:21
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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Raging Rat Ogre
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Were they too make an Eisenhorn movie, they'd have to get Christopher Walken to play some planetary governer; that first planet they're on would be good. I think Mickey Rourke could play a good Eisenhorn, especially once his face is paralized. Ron Perlman would make a good Space Marine Librarian. What about the bad guys? Any ideas on who would make a good Cherubael? Or Quixos? And what about the other inquisitors? I can't remember the older inquisitor's name, but his acolyte was Heldane. Any idea on who to play them? And Da Boss, blaming a head cold is stupid. Blame Malfred.
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2007/02/07 11:36:06
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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I feel like Pete Postlewaite would be good for something.
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2007/02/08 10:13:18
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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Why no GW movie? What do you call Lord of the Rings? That was a total rip of GW fantasy.
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2007/02/08 10:15:41
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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If they did make a 40k movie it would have to have Marine Boarding Torpedos being shot up Tyranid Spincher.
In fact I'll take 2 hours of that thank you.
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2007/02/08 17:36:18
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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Plastictrees
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Posted By Kid_Kyoto on 02/08/2007 3:15 PM If they did make a 40k movie it would have to have Marine Boarding Torpedos being shot up Tyranid Spincher. In fact I'll take 2 hours of that thank you.
Space Buttz: The Movie! "Whose butt is that?" "I don't care! It's funny!" *fart noise* *crowd errupts in laughter* "Space Buttz: The Movie is the best EVAR!" Hmmm, perhaps we can get Mike Judge to direct...
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2007/02/08 19:27:18
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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Been Around the Block
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Posted By nyarlathotep667 on 02/08/2007 10:36 PM Space Buttz: The Movie! "Whose butt is that?" "I don't care! It's funny!" *fart noise* *crowd errupts in laughter* "Space Buttz: The Movie is the best EVAR!"
Obviously starring Owen Wilson, Ben Stiller, and Eddie Murphy.
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2007/02/08 21:16:16
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RogueSangre
The Cockatrice Malediction
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Posted By Phausi on 02/07/2007 10:13 AM Ron Perlman would make a good Space Marine Librarian.
No way. Ron Perlman is Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka all the way!
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2007/02/09 13:47:56
Subject: RE: Why no GW movie?
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Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot
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Posted By Phausi on 02/07/2007 10:13 AM Were they too make an Eisenhorn movie, they'd have to get Christopher Walken to play some planetary governer; that first planet they're on would be good. I think Mickey Rourke could play a good Eisenhorn, especially once his face is paralized. Ron Perlman would make a good Space Marine Librarian. What about the bad guys? Any ideas on who would make a good Cherubael? Or Quixos? And what about the other inquisitors? I can't remember the older inquisitor's name, but his acolyte was Heldane. Any idea on who to play them? And Da Boss, blaming a head cold is stupid. Blame Malfred. Ron Perlman as Tantalid Tilda Swinton as Cherubael Patrick Stewart as Eisenhorn Daniel Craig as Ravenor
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