Two new Specialist Games for the Vault. What will they be?

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**aka_mythos**

I hope Space Hulk gets redone; its the the reason I really got into 40k. Unfortunately I don't think we'll se it done, I don't think they can do the corridors and rooms without just being PDFs... but then whats the point.

Warhammer Quest would be pretty cool, and supportable with the current range of minis. The game tiles again might be an issue.

GW could honestly make the game tiles for both in a similar fashion as the moevement trays are made.

I think Gorka Morka is deffinitely easily supported especially with new Orks stuff.

**Psychopomp**

aka_mythos wrote:I hope Space Hulk gets redone; its the the reason I really got into 40k. Unfortunately I don't think we'll se it done, I don't think they can do the corridors and rooms without just being PDFs... but then whats the point.

Warhammer Quest would be pretty cool, and supportable with the current range of minis. The game tiles again might be an issue.

GW could honestly make the game tiles for both in a similar fashion as the moevement trays are made.

I think Gorka Morka is deffinitely easily supported especially with new Orks stuff.

I would buy a Mighty Empires type box of plastic Space Hulk tiles, as long as you got a somewhat decent value out of it.

I have the old WHQ set, or I'd say that goes double for WHQ tiles. I'd still be tempted, depending on cost.

**Panic**

I've recently bought Space Hulk 2nd edition on ebay and I'm loving it. 1st ed looks too complicated, too many tables.
I was considering buying the Space corridor system from http://www.litkoaero.com/page/LAI/CTGY/CS
but i think i was getting carried away by the prospect of painting up my own hulk...
that and i love the blips they have! check them out

But I think i'll wait and see now... if GW made plastic hulk tiles, like the Cities of death buildings... that would be heaven!

**gorgon**

aka_mythos wrote:Warhammer Quest would be pretty cool, and supportable with the current range of minis. The game tiles again might be an issue.

IIRC, Jervis once said they lost all the design files for the rooms when they moved to their new HQ. So they couldn't reprint them even if the cost wasn't so prohibitive.

**Nurglitch**

Let me express my love of Litko products, from their blip markers to their blast markers. They're awesome!

**H.B.M.C.**

gorgon wrote:IIRC, Jervis once said they lost all the design files for the rooms when they moved to their new HQ. So they couldn't reprint them even if the cost wasn't so prohibitive.

That strikes me as a little far fetched in this day and age. All they'd need to do is scan the tiles in again off an existing copy.

BYE

**Hellfury**

gorgon wrote:
aka_mythos wrote:Warhammer Quest would be pretty cool, and supportable with the current range of minis. The game tiles again might be an issue.

IIRC, Jervis once said they lost all the design files for the rooms when they moved to their new HQ. So they couldn't reprint them even if the cost wasn't so prohibitive.

Supposedly. This was said about Space Hulk as well for their excuse not to reprint the game. The image files were lost.

Well, if they were ever really infact lost, then they found them again, because they are touting space hulk for the current 4th ed rules.
Tiles are here: http://uk.games-workshop.com/warhammer40000/space-hulk/12/

The rest of the 4th edition space hulk Kill-team rules are here: http://uk.games-workshop.com/warhammer40000/space-hulk/1/

**Kotrin**

My take: Gorkamorka and Space Hulk, obviously.

Both game have miniatures truly compatible with current 40K version and require minimal investment. Gorkamorka needs only an online rulebook, and Space Hulk corridors can easily been delivered in simple PDF format. Just expect side factions (mutants, half-breed stealers) to disappear from the rules.

I don't believe GW can bring back a game not fully compatible with one of its core game. Not in 2007.

**Pariah Press**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
gorgon wrote:IIRC, Jervis once said they lost all the design files for the rooms when they moved to their new HQ. So they couldn't reprint them even if the cost wasn't so prohibitive.

That strikes me as a little far fetched in this day and age. All they'd need to do is scan the tiles in again off an existing copy.

BYE

It doesn't work that way. They'll never end up looking right. They'll be blurry, and the colors will be off.

**H.B.M.C.**

Pariah Press wrote:It doesn't work that way. They'll never end up looking right. They'll be blurry, and the colors will be off.

Sorry, I don't buy that.

They can do high-quality scans of the floor tiles, and use them to produce new ones.

BYE

**bigchris1313**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Pariah Press wrote:It doesn't work that way. They'll never end up looking right. They'll be blurry, and the colors will be off.

Sorry, I don't buy that.

See, what's funny is that for a second I did because having only looked at PP's red avatar on a black background, I somehow assumed it was Brimstone.

Hurm.

**Agamemnon2**

My money's on Gorkamorka and Space Hulk. The former has been asked for time and again, and I'm pretty sure Space Hulk, too, has its aficionados. I understand most of those aficionados prefer 1E SH, though, since it had more supplements.

**Jazz is for Losers**

Agamemnon2 wrote:My money's on Gorkamorka and Space Hulk. The former has been asked for time and again, and I'm pretty sure Space Hulk, too, has its aficionados. I understand most of those aficionados prefer 1E SH, though, since it had more supplements.

I think it was the clock that made it what it was.

**Hordini**

Pariah Press wrote:
It doesn't work that way. They'll never end up looking right. They'll be blurry, and the colors will be off.

Obviously it doesn't really matter, since Hellfury just linked to the tiles on the GWUK website.

And also, HBMC is right. They most certainly could do high quality scans and everything would be just fine. Plus if there were problems they could easily touch everything up in Photoshop or something similar.

**Pariah Press**

Take a look at the Art of Warhammer 40K. You can totally tell which pieces were scanned from printed material, and which are from originals. Or, at least, I can.

**TragicNut**

I'd love to get my paws on Warhammer Quest, but the cost right now is absurd.

Having said that, Gorkamorka makes sense with the new Orks, and Space Hulk is classic.

**Agamemnon2**

Pariah Press wrote: Take a look at the Art of Warhammer 40K. You can totally tell which pieces were scanned from printed material, and which are from originals. Or, at least, I can.

Your superior powers of observation notwithstanding, I'd argue the Space Hulk floor tiles are less detailed than your average John Blanche piece.

**Doctadeth**

If there is a new computer game of blood bowl coming out, it may actually mean a resurgence in blood bowl....my money's on blood bowl or Necromunda getting updates..

Imagine throt the unclean in a blood bowl game, or eisedorn investigating a gang in necromunda...

**Pariah Press**

Agamemnon2 wrote:
Pariah Press wrote: Take a look at the Art of Warhammer 40K. You can totally tell which pieces were scanned from printed material, and which are from originals. Or, at least, I can.

Your superior powers of observation notwithstanding, I'd argue the Space Hulk floor tiles are less detailed than your average John Blanche piece.

Eh, good point. It's not like we'll have our face up close to the tiles, the way we would with a book.

Doctadeth wrote:If there is a new computer game of blood bowl coming out, it may actually mean a resurgence in blood bowl....my money's on blood bowl or Necromunda getting updates..

Imagine throt the unclean in a blood bowl game, or eisedorn investigating a gang in necromunda...

I don't think so. They already have Necromunda and Blood Bowl as "supported" Specialist Games. The Vault is for other games, which they have no interest in supporting or expanding, but want to make available for players.

**George Spiggott**

Does that mean they're all in the vault now? Which ones are they 'supporting' at the moment?

Space Hulk and Dark future are my two 'requests'.

I've been playing 1st edition Space hulk recently, it's a brilliant game.

I was in Woolworths the other day and I noticed that die-cast toy cars are £1 each, It made me want to play Dark future again.

**Pariah Press**

George Spiggott wrote:Does that mean they're all in the vault now? Which ones are they 'supporting' at the moment?

The main "Specialist Games," which receive rules support and have special miniatures:
Battlefleet Gothic
Battle of Five Armies
Blood Bowl
Epic
Inquisitor
Mordheim
Necromunda
Warmaster

The games in the Fanatic Games Vault, which, thus far, have been smaller in scope and stand on their own:
Street Bowl
Dungeon Bowl
Pit Fighter
Blood Bowl 7s
Bommerz over da Sulpher River
Brewhouse Bash
Adeptus Titanicus (3rd edition)

**Pariah Press**

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boardgame?

**reds8n**

it's Dark Future

**Jazz is for Losers**

Wahey! I'm always right, even when I'm not.

**syr8766**

Wasn't Dark Future, like, 20mm? Hrmn. Even so, I've got a pile of toy cars that need to be 'kustomized'...