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Good? Bad? It really depends. Isn't he the main driving force behind 40k 5.0 now? Most I have heard about it I like so far, so it could be bad. Who knows....

And really there isn't much conflict there. If you look at the rules and such for Black Powder it is very free flow. No lists and a very wide open system. Not much that GW would probably want, even in Historicals. Pretty much something these guys sit down and play for fun put into book form.

I too have my doubts about the, "veracity," of this claim, as Hellfury put it.

I mean, how can you believe this guy? He ended almost every sentence with multiple exclamation marks!!!

True or not, I don't think this is the end of the world (or even GW).

JJ has been at GW for a long, long time and I'm sure he was earning a lot more than any of the junior design staff. The company has been mandated from on high to cut costs and many of the old timers left graciously to help the company cut costs (John Stallard fired himself). Knowing how BoD’s tend to see thing, I have no doubt that JJ was viewed as liability.
If JJ is leaving, then I’m sure he’s doing it on his own terms. 20+ years of game development looks pretty good on a application for a job in the multi-billion dollar video game industry. VG companies have a lot more cash to throw around than a toy soldier manufacturer ever will. I’m sure Andy Chambers is regretting leaving GW every time he looks at his paycheque from Blizzard.

I have had the opportunity to speak with the man on several occasions and he always struck me as a guy who really loves what he does. 40k and WHFB will go on. JJ gave us some of the best GW games ever. Blood Bowl will stand IMO as the best of the best. His impact on my hobby is immeasurable. I wish him the best in whatever quest he sets himself on next.


Dosadi

I don't think it's true, isn't he the writer of the new SM codex?

Dosadi wrote:True or not, I don't think this is the end of the world (or even GW).

JJ has been at GW for a long, long time...

I have had the opportunity to speak with the man on several occasions and he always struck me as a guy who really loves what he does. 40k and WHFB will go on. JJ gave us some of the best GW games ever. Blood Bowl will stand IMO as the best of the best. His impact on my hobby is immeasurable. I wish him the best in whatever quest he sets himself on next.


Dosadi

True

It's another blow for 40k though, one it really didn't need. If this rumour is true I expect 40k's 5th edition cycle to follow 4th's, a dire situation indeed.

I don't really like the direction JJ has taken 40k, mainly because of the bland codexs the streamlining causes, however with 5th edition 2 months out, i would much prefer all the codex's get the streamlining bland flavor for balance reason. If JJ is leaveing the sm and space wolf codexs will get the streamlining and maybe DE but after that all bets are off. This could lead to the issue that happened in late 3rd where you had the very bland marine list compared to the 3.5 chaos codex.

However if he is leaving I would love to see Phil Kelly take his place has he seems to be the only person who can write a 40k codex to save his life.

Not sure if Orks is really a "good" codex. There are still very kneejerk options and a lot of stuff that will do nothing.

Is good having a few units that do well, a unit (lootas) that are just plain amazing, and the rest that will hardly be taken in any competitive game by a competent opponent?

Narlix wrote:I don't really like the direction JJ has taken 40k, mainly because of the bland codexs the streamlining causes.

Agreed, but jj seems to still be in place as a post later in the warseer thread points out that he is still a guest at one of the upcoming Game Days.

Hellfury wrote:

syr8766 wrote:Considering this is happening (again if true) right before the launch of 5th ed., his baby...Although Andy Chambers left just before 4th, didn't he? Or am I making things up again.

Nope, thats exactly what happened.

Huh.

Soo... do we have any confirmation yet?

The Warseer Inquisition has removed the original thread on their forum away from public viewing, which could be taken to mean they have confirmed it as a fake. Or maybe not, you never know with those guys. They treat moderating that place like it's the bleedin' Freemasons.

Hmm. Interesting rumor, and I agree it's probably shaky at best at this point.

As much as JJ gets made fun of around here (and I'm as guilty as anyone else), he's done a lot of good things for Specialist Games, and I do think he means well for 40k, even if some of us have mixed feelings regarding his chosen methods.

I think it would be generally unfortunate for GW if they let him go. And even if they did, just because he's gone, there's no guarantee 40k would improve (and personally I think it'd be more likely to get worse).

As to 5th edition, I'm not passing judgment until after it's released. I do have some optimistic hopes at this point, though.

JJ has done a lot of good things for GW, just not too many related to writing a Codex for 40K.

I actually hope it isn't true, but if it is, I hope this means that the 5th edition SM Codex has escaped his clutches...

JJ was great for specialist games, JJ wasnt as good when it came to codexi.

Necros wrote:I think they got the wrong month for april fools...

Actually, in 5th edition it's now May Fools Day. They so NERFED my fools pranks too. Idiots.

I am pretty sure it is a false rumour. On the Warseer thread the gentlemen who actually had the conversation indicated his friend who posted had it wrong and was talking out of his ***.

CB

When was the last time someone high profile was sacked from GW?

From memory everyone who left jumped ship.
Only one I'm not sure of was Toumas Piren and he was one of their better games designers... Morheim was tops.

His name is Tuomas Pirinen, and he was also responsible for revamping WHFB.

He wasn't sacked, he quit GW because the pay sucked and the prospects weren't good.

"the thread quoted from WarSeer was removed when the Wargames Journal Editor who is cited as a source indicated that Oddleg was making it up."

Seems pretty unlikely now. Papa blood bowl will be with us for some time! (And a good thing too, in my opinion)

delete

All I can say is...

HELL YEAH BABY!!!



G

what grand news this is (if it is true),

i wonder if LATD will make a comeback???

For those who choose not to read it:

This rumor is false. The source from the Wargamer journal mentioned in the original post has denied the story, which is why the thread was deleted from Warseer.

Lord Lankington wrote:
what grand news this is (if it is true),

i wonder if LATD will make a comeback???

Yes. Jervis hates the LatD and that's why his being fired would suddenly make a whole bunch of openings in the GW miniature line to be filled by new LatD models. C'mon now.

I know this is quite off topic but Fullheadofhair's squirrel is ace!

yakface wrote:This rumor is false.

Ah-ha! What did I tell you?! You can't trust a man that uses that many exclamation marks!

I find it funny that everyone seems to want the person who gave us Nidzilla and Flying Circus armies to be the one to inherit the title of Overfiend.

Now, I like Phil Kelly. I really do. He seems to understand game balance more than anyone since Andy Chambers.

But his recent track record makes me wonder if he's been possessed by Gavin Thorpe's ghost...except that Gav Thorpe is still alive.

bigchris1313 wrote:

yakface wrote:This rumor is false.

Ah-ha! What did I tell you?! You can't trust a man that uses that many exclamation marks!

Quoted for truth

I want to break this down real simple for everyone. I understand why people like JJ, and then I also understand why people hate him. I'm 19 and only been playing 40K for like 2-3 years. I got into the game because of the artwork and the models. I was only playing for a few months when they released the new Nid codex and models. To see the old ones transform from the bettle looking Carnifexs' to the Dino-thrashing about monsters just made me want to play more.

As a young player, that's what you want. You want to see change, but only with improvements. JJ is taking away alot of the things that make the different armies unique. I dont know if him leaving would fix this, but as a whole, GW should try and find a way to correct these problems. I'm sure JJ means well. I doubt he's sitting in a cube thinking of how he can p*** off other players.

Everyone wants to see better improvements, as do I. All you can do is wait and see what happens. GW may never get it right. Then again, they might... Who knows.. I'm still waiting to see 5th ed and the new Daemons codex before I decide to continue playing or not...