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I still think the army painter wouldnt be needed 100%, aslong as they have some basic great things in the game

multiple weapons / moves so it doesent get boring
co-op option
live play

Barsturds.

I bought every game they ever made for the PC and now they show me the finger by not making what I always wanted to play on the PC?

Barsturds I say.

Ah, you're just kidding seeing as you misspelled bastards on purpose.

You know, if this game has MP it would be great if you could choose marines, orks or chaos. I'd love to be a chain axe wielding loony.

BrookM wrote:Ah, you're just kidding seeing as you misspelled bastards on purpose.

Duh, they want to make money. Money is made on the consoles. That doesn't change the fact that I'll be unable to play the game at all if the don't bring a PC version. I have a 2.5k gaming rig and a work rig worth almosttwice as much but I don't have a TV and I have no intention to buy one...

Anyone knows if there's a way to hook a PC screen to a PS3?

Also, 4 marines in the trailer - 4 man co-op? Left for Inflicting Messy Death?

Not too sure about co-op after looking at the beta work, however it is old and may be wrong, but from what ive seen you only play as the sarge (others dont have BP and chainsword)
also, its rare to see more than 1 marine fighting unless its FMV.
so im guessing co-op may be out of the question.

His Master's Voice wrote:Barsturds.

I bought every game they ever made for the PC and now they show me the finger by not making what I always wanted to play on the PC?

Barsturds I say.

This man speaks the truth

Is it just 360, or will PS3 and Wii get some 40k loving?

Personally, these games play better on a console than on a PC.


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hammerofulric wrote:Is it just 360, or will PS3 and Wii get some 40k loving?

Preview article states X360 and PS3.

Pretty sure that this hasnt been posted, but the game that you see here isnt the same one that the 9 minute video features.
The original game was created by a different studio, which has since ceased production on the game which is unsuprising considering its been a year since weve seen anything. Some assets have moved into this new game but it looks like its ultimately an entirely new game, this time without the water(bolt)pistol.
http://kotaku.com/5271667/40k-space-marine-finally-officially-announced-%5Bupdate%5D
Its now an Action RPG, which means that without a doubt you can change colour/weapon/skills etc...
I'm looking forward to this, as i actually quite enjoyed FW for its representation of the universe, and this looks fluffier and better.

I was hoping for Lego Warhammer 40,000.

I honestly think this game looks fething gak.

Did you notice how many acronyms the guys mentions in the developer preview?

"This is what we call Total Ammunition Action Firing Time"
- we usually call that "firing"

"and this is Complete Immersive Environment"
- yeah we call that the map.

"This is Brutal Action Time Sequencing"
- no that's a cutscene.

"Here we have Complete Visceral Combat Tactics Movement"
- no, that's moving.

This game has every bit of shlock rubbish that's present in every console shooter of the last 8 years. Halo started the trend for decent console shooters, and since then no-one has had the decency to try and do something original. Yes, even GOW.

This looks utter crap. There hasn't been a good GW game since Space Hulk."This is what we call

actually tek, call of duty 4 set the standards and overtook halo on its release, much smoother, better ideas and general gameplay.
however, i only really play halo 3 and CoD4 now
speaking of which, i may actually play halo since i have nothing else that needs doing.

His Master's Voice wrote:Anyone knows if there's a way to hook a PC screen to a PS3?

If your monitor is the DVI cable kind, you should be able to get a cord that will be HDMI on 1 end and DVI on the other, or an adapter. That should work good.

[brag]I have my PS3 on a 50" plasma tv & 7.1 surround sound [/brag]

I kept telling myself I was gonna build and paint all this new IG stuff, but instead I'm kinda addicted to Killzone2 right now :(

I'll definitely be picking this game up when it's finally done

Looks ok. I love all the console hate it just makes me happy. (i have both)

Looks like something 40k related I may actually want to play.

His Master's Voice wrote:

BrookM wrote:Ah, you're just kidding seeing as you misspelled bastards on purpose.

Duh, they want to make money. Money is made on the consoles. That doesn't change the fact that I'll be unable to play the game at all if the don't bring a PC version. I have a 2.5k gaming rig and a work rig worth almosttwice as much but I don't have a TV and I have no intention to buy one...

Anyone knows if there's a way to hook a PC screen to a PS3?

Also, 4 marines in the trailer - 4 man co-op? Left for Inflicting Messy Death?

There are cable for VGA output from a PS3 such as: http://www.gameyeeeah.com/wii-ps3-vga-cable-p-746.html. You could also use a component to VGA converter. There are ways to use the HDMI out but its a bit more complicated as you have to worry about the HDCP copy protection.

Let me play as an Ork rather than a space marine and I'm there..

It looks really good. I think by the "This is Brutal Action Time Sequencing" they will have a trigger system like in Star Wars Force unleashed where if you time the button combo on the screen just right it will have a matching response sequence. In force unleashed you could cut an imperial walker in half, or crush it.

I'm hopeful, but as we have come to know a flashy trailor does not always equal a good game. We can only pray it is better than Fire Warrior.

My wishlist for this game:

Bitz - Relic has already done an army painter, but let's face it, that's kinda oldsauce. I don't just want to make new color schemes, I wanna go through and do part swaps. Let me build my Slaaneshi goodness, even if I won't be getting my Sonic Blaster.

Arsenal - Let's face it, for a game of this nature, you don't really have that many options for feasible weapons/wargear. *Boltgun/pistol (no issue with this, seems easy enough)
*Plasgun/pistol (kinda like the bolter family, but let's face it, how do you really differentiate aside from a higher damage output in a game like this?)
*Meltagun (Overkill on a stick, unless you're squaring off against a dreadnought or something...)
*Flamer (Name one game where they got the Flamethrower right... It's a difficult weapon to do in a game like this. It breaks suspension of disbelief far too easily.)
*Combiweapons (might be nifty with the flamer, but aside from that, it seems like it might just be redundant...)

Power Weapon(s)/Power Fist(s)/Thunder Hammer(s)/Lightning Claw(s) - God Of War, eat your heart out. Sorry, but nothing could possibly be as undeniably awesome as dual wielding thunder hammers or lightning claws. Fluffy? In the case of the hammers, feth no it isn't fluffy, but it would be a solid balance to the fact that you're looking like you're stuck playing a smurf in the single player version.

Chaos Campaign mode - No, seriously... and if not that, then some special arcade-style mode that lets me play a Berzerker and bring down wholesale slaughter upon waves and waves of enemies just to kill some time.

But that's just my thoughts on it.

Tek wrote:I honestly think this game looks fething gak.

Did you notice how many acronyms the guys mentions in the developer preview?

"This is what we call Total Ammunition Action Firing Time"
- we usually call that "firing"

"and this is Complete Immersive Environment"
- yeah we call that the map.

"This is Brutal Action Time Sequencing"
- no that's a cutscene.

"Here we have Complete Visceral Combat Tactics Movement"
- no, that's moving.

This game has every bit of shlock rubbish that's present in every console shooter of the last 8 years. Halo started the trend for decent console shooters, and since then no-one has had the decency to try and do something original. Yes, even GOW.

This looks utter crap. There hasn't been a good GW game since Space Hulk."This is what we call

Newsflash: buzz words sell games.

What sounds better? "This is a game where you can move and shoot..." or "This is a brutal action game where you have complete visceral combat and epic action firing sequences!"

Halo? Decent? Really? Now I know you're not being serious

Gabe wrote:

Tek wrote:I honestly think this game looks fething gak.

Did you notice how many acronyms the guys mentions in the developer preview?

"This is what we call Total Ammunition Action Firing Time"
- we usually call that "firing"

"and this is Complete Immersive Environment"
- yeah we call that the map.

"This is Brutal Action Time Sequencing"
- no that's a cutscene.

"Here we have Complete Visceral Combat Tactics Movement"
- no, that's moving.

This game has every bit of shlock rubbish that's present in every console shooter of the last 8 years. Halo started the trend for decent console shooters, and since then no-one has had the decency to try and do something original. Yes, even GOW.

This looks utter crap. There hasn't been a good GW game since Space Hulk."This is what we call

Newsflash: buzz words sell games.

What sounds better? "This is a game where you can move and shoot..." or "This is a brutal action game where you have complete visceral combat and epic action firing sequences!"

Halo? Decent? Really? Now I know you're not being serious

What's that? I think I missed your post while I was utilizing my Hypertext Markup Language reader that's totally outfitted with Hypertext Transfer Protocol compatability and the ability to interact with its interface dynamically while using an optically augmented solid-state digital pointing device.

That's right. I use Firefox. [/obscenely bad sales pitch]

JD21290 wrote:actually tek, call of duty 4 set the standards and overtook halo on its release, much smoother, better ideas and general gameplay.

So it didn't set the standard then. CoD 4 is a good game, but how it's suddenly reset the bar is beyond me. Define smoother please?
As for better ideas... You're the good guy, there's the bad guy. Shoot him with this gun. Come on.

barlio wrote:It looks really good. I think by the "This is Brutal Action Time Sequencing" they will have a trigger system like in Star Wars Force unleashed where if you time the button combo on the screen just right it will have a matching response sequence. In force unleashed you could cut an imperial walker in half, or crush it.
I'm hopeful, but as we have come to know a flashy trailor does not always equal a good game. We can only pray it is better than Fire Warrior.

The "Trigger System" you're referring to is what we call QTE (quick-time events), and is IMO a very lazy way to make games. A stupid combo entry system that basically pauses the game, and takes the player out of the action, purely because the designers were too lazy to think of something better. That is not how to make a good game.
Sure, Starkiller can kill a Sarlacc in one of two different ways, but the fact I'm not actually doing it takes all the fun out of it. It's a cutscene, but a gak cutscene becuase the "sit back and watch the cinematic goodness" is destroyed by me not being able to watch it as I have to hammer "Y" every now and then or I fail.

God I hate QTEs. gak action, gak cutscene. Wow, you managed to ruin TWO things at once there. Good job.

I like Firewarrior man. I liked how you really needed to pummel the enemy to kill them. Another thing that looks a bit crap about SM is nothing seems to have any impact. An 8 foot metal monster bashing a traitor guard with a chansaw as long as his body? He just stands there and takes it. Poor show.

Don't give me the "it's a beta" rubbish. Why bother showing the tech if it's not ready to show off, eh?

I mean, it looks good. But that's it. Good. I have little interest playing a game that's just good.
Games by numbers. Armoured, emotionally distant protagonists taking on a shallow, underdeveloped enemy. That's what I predict for this. This and every other Sci Fi game since Deus Ex.

Overall.........meh.


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Gabe wrote:
Newsflash: buzz words sell games.
What sounds better? "This is a game where you can move and shoot..." or "This is a brutal action game where you have complete visceral combat and epic action firing sequences!"
Halo? Decent? Really? Now I know you're not being serious

It's not a case of sounding better, it's a case of not being a transparent piece of gak sales pitch to a bunch of gamers who'll cut right through the bs and realise they're being sold GoW with more colours.

Come on, Halo ruled. Almost perfect 100% scores across the board, 5 million+ copies sold, the reason Xbox actually floated in it's first year [citation needed]. It's a milestone in console shooters.
Maybe not the first, although allow me to introduce Goldeneye.

I fail to see most of the time how the games industry has moved on. Strip out all the buzzwords and you're back down to Goldeneye basically.

Let's drive this gak into the ground months before it is actually released!

Yay! Finally something for us console tards that isn't Firewarrior!!

Tek: Did you just watch the year old youtube video and not the new updated video? Go back to the OP and click on that link and then watch the new one.

So it didn't set the standard then. CoD 4 is a good game, but how it's suddenly reset the bar is beyond me. Define smoother please?
As for better ideas... You're the good guy, there's the bad guy. Shoot him with this gun. Come on.

smoother: the game runs at a constant pace, 1 person leaves, another can take his place.
on halo if you get a quitter in your team then your 1 person down the whole game.
rough graphics and a very cartoony look to it (still a good game however )

Better ideas: the customisation of all guns (except 1 pistol), camo on guns, the ability to crouch or go prone.
the ability to blend into the backround (helps when playing S&D)
the ideas of earning upgrades on guns via challenges, the whole ranking system idea is a whole lot better.

need i go on?
it just takes FPS to a whole new level, which unfortunatly call of duty: world at war killed off with its random glitchyness (like halo) and its poor maps (also, halo needs some new maps badly)




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although allow me to introduce Goldeneye.

if your talking about goldeneye for the N64 then fair point, i think back then that was one of the most amazing games about, feth, i still have it along with the N64 lol.

This game looks like generic action crap, like everything else that's popular in the video game world these days. I'd be much happier with a 40k side scroller where you can choose any race and possibly swap between characters or something. And it would take them about a day and a half to code the whole thing. Co-op or Live play wouldn't be an issue either.

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:This game looks like generic action crap, like everything else that's popular in the video game world these days. I'd be much happier with a 40k side scroller where you can choose any race and possibly swap between characters or something. And it would take them about a day and a half to code the whole thing. Co-op or Live play wouldn't be an issue either.

HA, go tell that to the Behemoth.

http://kotaku.com/5271667/40k-space-marine-finally-officially-announced-%5Bupdate%5D

In particular this part:

UPDATE 1- A post on Relic's boards says that this title is not the same game that was leaked in that video from last year. That clip was "for an action title Studio Aus was working on. This is a totally different project, though it does share the same name as the leaked video used."

Sounds like the action game in development at THQ Australia may have been binned, then shifted to Relic and cannibalised for parts. We'll look into it, see if the action game is still being worked on or not.

UPDATE 2 - Yup. Sources have told us that the original action title was cancelled, but that THQ thought some parts were worth salvaging, and handed the leftovers over to Relic to turn into this action RPG.

I was looking forward to fighting Chaos but whatever.

Has it been confirmed on the PS3 as well?

Or is it just Xbox?