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zedsdead wrote:The opponent who:

- rechecks every measurement you make?
- rechecks your flamer and blast template hits with his own... and will always argue that its 1 less hit than you say ?
- 50 % of cover for MC's and Vehicals is always in his favor and never yours ? ( i had to use the 5+ cover with him more than any other game.)
- LOS is never in your favor but always in his ?
- sighs when you use something out of the codex that he doesnt understand? (he only reads the SM codex as far as i can tell)
- 2.5 hr game that went 2 turns because of this and constant checking codexes and Rule book.

I met this guy this week..... sigh

I'm gonna toss this out there but do you know the opponent who:
- seems to think 7"=6"
- likes to say he hits more then he does with his blast templates
- tries to tell you that a unit behind area terrain, but not obscured by it or between elements of it, has cover?
- doesn't think a laser pointer is an accurate way of measuring LOS to things.
- explains rules incorrectly and always to his advantage?
- takes 20 minutes to move one unit

I meet these guys lots...

BUT seriously, if you play someone who checks your measurements each time and shows you that you are measuring to far each time and you call him TFG? who is really TFG in that situation?

Cheese Elemental wrote:

barlio wrote:Is he bald and rides a bicycle?

Do you mean like the Black and White Space Marine on the Black and White Bike?

Once upon a time there was a black and white space marine on a black and white bike, and then he died and everyone was happy.

The End.

This is my version.

You see, TFG is really an operative for DAW, (Dickheads Againt Wargaming) and he is armed with quite an arsenal.

Besides being a dick, he can make his army seem more impressive, he can make your tactics look flawed, he can blind himself to anyone's view but his own, and he can even disguise himself as a nice fellow from time to time.

- doesn't think a laser pointer is an accurate way of measuring LOS to things.

I don't, honestly.

Maybe I was just doing it wrong, I don't know, but the one time I tried using a laser pointer I couldn't get the dot to hit a model that I very clearly had LOS to. That and it's kinda hard to do if your gun barrel is glued in place and you can't physically aim up and down.

Use the laser from the head instead. If it's the GW one it should be shaped at the back so it can easily do this. It also projects a crosshair which can be big, good for shutting TFG up when LOS comes up. But yeah, use it from in front of the head. If you have to move the model, move it then do it. Nothing like a nice light to make them shut up about LOS, also makes sniping more fun.

They are the sort of lads (TFG's) who see 2-3 11/13 yr olds, who have bought thier shared "Battle for McCragge Box" set to the game store...

They then magnanimously offer said new-players into a game where THEY CAN TEAM UP ON HIM----COOL!!

He then clmly places a Store owned 'display' Stompa- and wipes them out(with associated troops blah blah).

Asked him if he was up for another game, and the 2 younger dudes could help me move my figs.

Blitzkreig- 7 Drop-pods of SM Uber Bang Bang.

On Turn 4 when TFG was packing up his dudes,(And grumbling about 'cheating team ups' ) I made sure he overheard me explaining to these younger guys how to use different tactics, but most importantly, just enjoy the game.

I just loathe the sort of people who think they are brilliant acting like they are smarter than a Dog, because they act like they are throwing the ball, said Dog runs for it, TFG has ball hidden behind his expansive(usually) back, all the while going "Nyuck Nyuck".

Dog turns around, looks puzzeled at TFG.

TFG feels like Einstein...."Nyuck Nyuck"...

/end bizzare monologue/rant

Haha, we had a guy like that at out gaming store. Everyone used to call him Lord Void (since he acted like a void that sucked in all the pleasure you could have in games against him). He thought we called him that in recognition of his Necron army. The point is, it's best to have a laugh at the expense of these people and dont take em to seriously...

I quit my local gaming club when I found out this particular breed outnumbered the reasonable players. It was at this point that I learned that maturity cannot be measured by age alone.

I'd like to cross section them and see if they have TFG rings, but that's probably illegal.

Well our club is devoid of them, simply because you have to get voted in after a trial period....we tend to avoid them overall.

Cant say I've ever had the pleasure ofplaying these types....

@frgsinwntr

To true! I have had to on occassion measure a moved distance for someone. I don't feel like a dick if they are moving 7-9 inches instead of 6". Most recently it was a 15" move with jump packs that got him close enough to charge when I know i was 20" away since I have targetters on my GK's

Generally though it is an asshat questioning every rule that annoys me. I also manage to avoid a lot of the blast template stuff by simply letting the other guy tell me how many I hit. Even in tournement it's not that big a deal to me

TFG certainly doesnt like being told he is an annoying douchebag to his face, in front of everyone at the store, and to his amazement no one taking his side of the argument, ever.

sadly, TFG prolly knows he is annoying and worthless, but thinks he can befriend people if he talked, stalks, advises and "helps" people the best he can.

We have force them out of our store and sent them to the south. Thier were a pack of them once that tried to invade our store and we had to work as a team to disperse them. Still hear from time to time from the southerners how thier antics continue but the good news it's not in our store no more.

They also usually have very strong opinions regarding Katanas, and the uberness thereof.

This is one of the truest things ever said.

It's people like this that have made me hate all nipponophiles/sinophiles on principle.

I wish Mythbusters would do a show on whether or not a Katana can REALLY cut through a person from neck to crotch, or whatever the myths claim. They could use TFG to test with.

It's Gwar!


What do I win?

never had problems with them......might be because of the bears.....might be because of something else.......who knows

TFG Disgusting creatures

The story of TFG is long and filled with peril.

One day on a lake there were two little hobbits. They were enjoying a great day of fishing and tipping of customary brewskies when one of them pulled a boot into the boat.

Not having any shoes most hobbits care very little for them in general... but this one had REALLY shiny buckles, and both of the hobbits thought it would make a great hat. They fought for hours over who had found it until TFG "had enough" and totally snapped.

He began to transform into a monstrous basement dwelling troll, who never left the house for anything besides to make your life miserable.

There are many TFG, and the misconception that they are clones is unfounded. They take many shapes and forms, in attempts to trick their prey into ridiculous open-ended arguments. On many occasion they take the form of multiple people, beware the family of TFG, although they may be totally uninfected, TFG always likes to plant evil seeds of undoing and disaster into those around them.

In the case that you do encounter a multi-headed TFG walk away slowly avoiding eye-contact. Make sure to plan your exits if you expect to encounter this beast at any social gathering. Laundry is ALWAYS a good excuse, even if everyone knows you only have one pair of pants . Simple logic will have no effect on the smaller TFG, but the large ones can be tied into their own arguments quite easily. Very satisfying thing that, they never seem to give up, although their souls were long ago sold for pizza and egg nog.... oh and more shiny stuff.

Most of the people in my club (permanent) are nothing like this guy but, like with everyone, they may have their moments of rule heckling.

I had a TFG moment against some (seemingly) 10 year old kid. He was the only one at the store so i said "sure i'll play you". It was my space marines inaugural game. i really only had my dreadnought, my redeemer and half a squad painted, but i really wanted to play. we agreed on 1000 points, since he "knew his army was 1000 points". This is essentially his army list (iirc)

2 small-ish squads of CSMs, both having at least 3 heavy weapons.

A Defiler with battle cannon, havok missile launcher and some other gun

Land raider standard pattern

squad of 5 or 6 raptors

squad of 5 chaos terminators, all with combi-weapons/heavy weapons

Chaos Lord

squad of khorne berzerkers

He also diddn't have his codex and the store had all of their sealed in comic book bag things. So i said " thats cool. we'll just try and extrapolate from the SM codex.

well, apparantly every weapon he had that wasn't a boltgun profile (str 4 ap 5) was strength 8, ap 2. Also, he diddnt seem to understand how twin linked worked, even though i explained it 2 or 3 times to him. He aslo tried to convince me i can only move d6 inches backwards. (I was moving a tac squad away from his terms. as CC heavy as my army is, 7 Sms are no match for 5 chaos terms in CC)

After 3 turns he "got bored" and forfeited, even though he had a clear advantage and i was just giving him a run for his money. On top of that this kid had quite the potty mouth.

TFGs... they are procreating.

rodfarruguia wrote:At Game Kastle in California we do not have anyone i know that fits that description. we do have some that get mad after a game but they keep it inside. the store i go to is cool , it will close and leave the game room open 24 hours or until the last person leaves. the worst i seen is an argument over terrain , but one of the guys picked up and i ended up playing the other.

You do know. If you can't identify someone at your store as TFG you're TFG?

n0t_u wrote:Use the laser from the head instead. If it's the GW one it should be shaped at the back so it can easily do this. It also projects a crosshair which can be big, good for shutting TFG up when LOS comes up. But yeah, use it from in front of the head. If you have to move the model, move it then do it. Nothing like a nice light to make them shut up about LOS, also makes sniping more fun.

Yeah, I bought a cheapo laser pointer when I was at the register of a pet store and didn't bother paying for an "official" GW one. I might have to though just in case.

The TFG also shares a large number of traits with the common 'one-upper', many belive they are in fact the same species.

Did you once have an interesting chat with Rick Preistly at games day about the world of gaming? Well guaranteed 'TFG' has played a game against him and beaten him! Did you watch Aliens the other night? Well TFG once met James Cameron and attended a personal screening of the film in James Camerons own home cinema (despite being only 10 when the movie came out).

Once challenged with the 'details' TFG will normally either dig a rather large hole for themselves or skulk off into a corner. If you want rid of one of these foul creatures confront them at evrey opportunity!

Man, we need a TFG mini now.

Clthomps wrote:It's Gwar!


What do I win?

A warning.

Don't pick on Gwar! or any other members. It's rude.

And mean

And besides i'm sure if you discussed before the game on any questionable rules your army has before the game and have at least a semi-decent raw defense for your interpretation he should at least be open to a rolloff.

Ah... yes the roll-off "rule". What a joke.

My d6 vs. yours that I win the game by default, logic be damned!!!

Total TFG move.

Wrexasaur wrote:Ah... yes the roll-off "rule". What a joke.

My d6 vs. yours that I win the game by default, logic be damned!!!

Total TFG move.

TFG: I win on a 1+
Me: No you don't.
TFG: We have to roll off
Me: Fine
-TFG Rolls a 4, I roll a 5-
TFG: Dang I lost
Me: Ok so...
TFG: You Lose on a 1+
Me: No you don't.
TFG: We have to roll off

Yay for TMIR, because If I refuse, I am the douche!

Awww. you guys took what i said out of context!!!


GAK YOU!

I meant a rolloff on the questionable rules >.<

Red_Lives wrote:Awww. you guys took what i said out of context!!!


GAK YOU!

I meant a rolloff on the questionable rules >.<

IT IS QUESTIONABLE THAT THERE IS NO RULE TO SAY I CAN'T AUTOWIN!