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Stinky Spore

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Crazy_Carnifex wrote:40k, on the other hand, can be won by one Grot sitting on an objective faceing all your foes army.

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Umber Guard

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By spousal mandate (only supreceeded by a mandate from god): I can only focus on one or the other Fantasy (I had a Lizardman and a Dark Elf Army) or 40K (I have a bunch of DA SM). I went with 40K because it was more fluid.

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With Wargames Factory making some really nice historicals, the wife is even interested. She's not much for the 40k/Fantasy stuff (though tolerating it atm).

Ah, if I could just get her closer to the edge . . . .

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But I like both systems. The biggest "broken" armies currently for Fantasy is Daemons, Vampires, Dark Elves for various reasons. I've heard Tomb Kings are competitive but not like the others.

Hell, I play Empire and I can say we're not broken

No one plays Ogres, and O&G are just a freaking cool army (fanatics anyone? Doom Divers).

Wood Elves are harder to play based upon what's available. WoC do well and have access to Cheap Troops and Expensive troops. Not much of a middle ground and no shooting iirc (except for cannon?).

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Decrepit Dakkanaut

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malfred wrote:JHDD and GFC you're having something of a disconnect.

JHDD is talking about War of the Ring, the mass combat game set in the Lord of the Rings

Grunt, I think the things you hear about LOTR being cumbersome are based on the
skirmish game, not the mass combat game.

Oh, good point, Malfred - thanks for clarifying.

Trying to scale LotR Skirmish Battle Game up to mass battle would be like trying to scale the Mordheim or Necromunda skirmish games to current WFB7 or 40k5 mass battle scales. Ugh.

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I've heard quite a bit of up-talk about WotR, but I can't seem to generate any interest for the models, factions and/or setting. Something stands in the way of me embracing an established setting where customization seems almost non-existent. Part of the fun for me in both Fantasy and 40K is making my own HQs, troops and elites with names and models to represent their struggles, conflicts and lives. Anything related to LotR seems to (for me) bottleneck that creativity.
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I do like Easterlings.
They're just as cool as goodies, except they are so fething bad.

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Wicked Warp Spider

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This was very well done and gives a lot of food for thought. A few points that came to me:

After reading through it carefully it seems like fantasy is a lot less forgiving on every level and it's more of an elite game for people who like lots of little ins and outs and put a lot of time into the thing. Do you think this (overall) describes the game?

Also, we're more looking to put time into painting, then taking 10 minutes to draw up a small list and then playing for a little bit... It sounds like there's a lot of work before, during, and after each game of fantasy, no matter how small it is.

Well since your not going to be playing competitivly I wouldn't worry about all the in's and outs, as long as your having fun who cares?

I don't believe in the balance thing except for deamons. The reason is that the codex creep that occurs in 40k doesn't (imo) show up as much in WFB. Lizards were the last codex out and they don't smash deamons, they are competative but overall very balanced.

Its possible to paint and then get a game in, thats what i do currently.

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The reason the game seems more unforgiving is that most armies are Str 3, T 3. And have rather week saves unless in CC (or your WoC). Armour saves can also be negativly modified by the Str of a hit.

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The Last Chancer Who Survived

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I like both for different reasons. Fantasy seems more fun to play, but 40K I like the models & fluff so much more so that's really my main focus since I like modeling and painting way more than playing. My club is mostly fantasy players, we do 40k too but fantasy is played way more often.

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StormHalo wrote:I've heard quite a bit of up-talk about WotR, but I can't seem to generate any interest for the models, factions and/or setting. Something stands in the way of me embracing an established setting where customization seems almost non-existent.

Of course, that is precisely why WotR appeals to *historical* wargamers - WotR has many of the same parameters of an established setting with minimal customization. It just has Monsters and Magic. If you look at WotR as more of a pseudo-historical game, then it will likely make more sense to you.

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I played fantasy and found that you have to look at the army book too much to check movement range, but that's just me.

Edit: bad grammar :(

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Another thing to consider is how much you enjoy painting... when I remember having to assemble (let alone paint!) 60-70 clanrats and twice as many skaven slaves, part of me dies.

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ive played fantasy,and found it to be like playing magic,you make broken armies and fight broken armies and about evey 10 min. or so theres bickering over some rule,so if you like power playing,and pointless arguments over some stupid cover save or charge move then play,but be warned,three armies top the play list and they are brutal,so i would say buy skull pass,try it,and if you like it make a list with some more models and try a turney,and if you still like it play....i play chaos warriors and lizard men and love my orks....as unreliable as they can be at times but they are a blast to play.....so try it out you may like it but its not eveyones cup of tea

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ivenever played war of the rings,i find the models to be drab,but ive heard good things about it and bad

lord of the rings was the worst mistake GW made and is why they push those spacemarines so hard now a days,to make up the money loss,my local shop has a hole shelf at 75% off and they still sit and collcet dust

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31rls31 wrote:lord of the rings was the worst mistake GW made

my local shop has a hole shelf at 75% off


What shop is this? I'd be interesting in mail ordering from them at 75% off.

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