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Lord Harrab wrote:I just found this on CoolMiniOrNot.com, my payers have been answered.

http://www.coolminiornot.com/store/product.php?xProd=1420

So that's gonna be your model? I presume you will be making some adjustments, correct? It's nice, but the face looks a little odd. Like she's high or something.

Yeah, the face seemed odd to me too, i may replace it with one from a wood elf or something.

First i need to GET some elves, oh the expense..

Well that depends on how fast the Kitty is running, as opposed to how fast the Rottie is running. See, if I was a kitty being chased by a hostile Rottie and, say, an average 165-180lb guy, I'd be booking it like high Hell. So that guy would have to be running as fast as that kitten. Now, that kitty is going to have far more energy and speed being that it weighs e 1/15 of either of them. Now, that Rottie on the other hand could be potentially quite fat. So while it would be slow getting to you, it'd hurt when it got there (Orks, Nids, Crons for example). There's a chance you could beat it, but there's an even better chance it's just going to bowl you over and royally f**k your day

But so long as you're chasing that kitty as fast as it can run away, you should be fine.


... ...What were we talking about again? Man... I really want to chase my kitty around my house now

EDIT: Wow! I really like the mini. Still needs some GRIMDARKIFICATION to make it distinctly 40K, but the base mini itself looks great. I really don't think the face is that bad to be honest. The thing with faces is that even just moving the position of the eyes can do wonders. I thought the new Cadian Medic face would terrible, but after I painted it and positioned the eyes differently from the E'M paintjob, it looked a LOT better.

I do think you should give her a Flak Jacket or something. Right now she just doesn't look very combat ready.

Lord Harrab wrote:Yeah, the face seemed odd to me too, i may replace it with one from a wood elf or something.

First i need to GET some elves, oh the expense..

Cheer up. My love for fluff has cost me a lot of money too, so you're not alone.

metallifan wrote:Well that depends on how fast the Kitty is running, as opposed to how fast the Rottie is running. See, if I was a kitty being chased by a hostile Rottie and, say, an average 165-180lb guy, I'd be booking it like high Hell. So that guy would have to be running as fast as that kitten. Now, that kitty is going to have far more energy and speed being that it weighs e 1/15 of either of them. Now, that Rottie on the other hand could be potentially quite fat. So while it would be slow getting to you, it'd hurt when it got there (Orks, Nids, Crons for example). There's a chance you could beat it, but there's an even better chance it's just going to bowl you over and royally f**k your day

But so long as you're chasing that kitty as fast as it can run away, you should be fine.


... ...What were we talking about again? Man... I really want to chase my kitty around my house now

I don't know what's scarier, the fact that you put so much thought into that, or that i understood it...

metallifan wrote:Well that depends on how fast the Kitty is running, as opposed to how fast the Rottie is running. See, if I was a kitty being chased by a hostile Rottie and, say, an average 165-180lb guy, I'd be booking it like high Hell. So that guy would have to be running as fast as that kitten. Now, that kitty is going to have far more energy and speed being that it weighs e 1/15 of either of them. Now, that Rottie on the other hand could be potentially quite fat. So while it would be slow getting to you, it'd hurt when it got there (Orks, Nids, Crons for example). There's a chance you could beat it, but there's an even better chance it's just going to bowl you over and royally f**k your day

But so long as you're chasing that kitty as fast as it can run away, you should be fine.


... ...What were we talking about again? Man... I really want to chase my kitty around my house now

My kitty hides under my bed if I try that. :(


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Lord Harrab wrote:

metallifan wrote:Well that depends on how fast the Kitty is running, as opposed to how fast the Rottie is running. See, if I was a kitty being chased by a hostile Rottie and, say, an average 165-180lb guy, I'd be booking it like high Hell. So that guy would have to be running as fast as that kitten. Now, that kitty is going to have far more energy and speed being that it weighs e 1/15 of either of them. Now, that Rottie on the other hand could be potentially quite fat. So while it would be slow getting to you, it'd hurt when it got there (Orks, Nids, Crons for example). There's a chance you could beat it, but there's an even better chance it's just going to bowl you over and royally f**k your day

But so long as you're chasing that kitty as fast as it can run away, you should be fine.


... ...What were we talking about again? Man... I really want to chase my kitty around my house now

I don't know what's scarier, the fact that you put so much thought into that, or that i understood it...

both.

Going back to the question of "Why is she playing silly buggers with the elder when there are more pressing problems?"

Lady Croft is Ordos Xenos, I see her as more of a scholar then warrior.,(Yet still experienced as both. she is an Inquisitor after all.) Investigating the various alien races, finding out what makes them tick, then sending that data on so that others can deal with them, working only with her staff as she investigates alien sites. Occasionally she'd call in the Deathwatch for precision strikes and artifact recovery.

Eldar are the ultimate mystery, their actions unreadable by humans, and even their language far beyond human gothic, and Lady croft can't resist trying to unravel their schemes.

That they then lead her to discover the Necrons( an even older and more mysterious race,) and a Loyal IG regiment that's experienced at fighting them is just a bonus.

Lord Harrab wrote:Going back to the question of "Why is she playing silly buggers with the elder when there are more pressing problems?"

Lady Croft is Ordos Xenos, I see her as more of a scholar then warrior.,(Yet still experienced as both. she is an Inquisitor after all.) Investigating the various alien races, finding out what makes them tick, then sending that data on so that others can deal with them, working only with her staff as she investigates alien sites. Occasionally she'd call in the Deathwatch for precision strikes and artifact recovery.

Eldar are the ultimate mystery, their actions unreadable by humans, and even their language far beyond human gothic, and Lady croft can't resist trying to unravel their schemes.

That they then lead her to discover the Necrons( an even older and more mysterious race,) and a Loyal IG regiment that's experienced at fighting them is just a bonus.

She discovered the Necrons? Does that mean that she is the first person in the Imperium to see them? If so, then this is set a few centuries back from the current time in 5th edition 40k.

The Necrons really aren't that mysterious, though. Their plan is simple and obvious: kill everything, everywhere. The Caiphus Cain series notes that the Imperium is well aware of that goal already.

hmm, you've given me something to think about. I haven't read those books myself yet.

and by her discovering the necrons, i mean it's the first time she's heard of or even seen them.


Edit: do any of you know how to read the imperial date thingy? what does 020.974.M41 mean?

Lord Harrab wrote:hmm, you've given me something to think about. I haven't read those books myself yet.

and by her discovering the necrons, i mean it's the first time she's heard of or even seen them.

I doubt that an Inquisitor of Ordo Xenos wouldn't have been taught about Necrons in the training program. Inquisitors are high-ranking enough to be told that sort of thing. Unless she really is the first to discover them for the Imperium. You could say that this is merely the first time she has actually met them, but an Inquisitor would have at least some knowledge of them. Just some tips.

Damn you deep and intoxicating fluff!!


Okay, hows this:


She's heard of necrons and their raids, but didn't connect them to the structures she's found. Only refrences to warriors and maybe scarabs.
but the huge and varied horde she encounters on Ferosia contains several rare Necron types not mentioned in her records, (perhaps even a C'tan?) hence the reforming on the regiment into "Necron hunters" and explaining why she's throwing so many men and machines at them, to see exactly what they're capable of for herself.

Lord Harrab wrote:Damn you deep and intoxicating fluff!!


Okay, hows this:


She's heard of necrons and their raids, but didn't connect them to the structures she's found. Only refrences to warriors and maybe scarabs.
but the huge and varied horde she encounters on Ferosia contains several rare Necron types not mentioned in her records, (perhaps even a C'tan?) hence the reforming on the regiment into "Necron hunters" and explaining why she's throwing so many men and machines at them, to see exactly what they're capable of for herself.

I would think the sickly green glow all their structures and troops give off would make it pretty obvious. Every Necron horde has a Necron Lord of some level commanding it, and most have Tomb Spyders and other units as well. There are only four C'tan remaining alive, with only two of those active (the Nightbringer and the Deceiver). So unless the battle was really important, I doubt one of them would show up in person. And the Nightbringer is only active because the Imperium accidentally woke him up, so they know about him for sure. That would definitely be including in Inquisitor training.

Deathbot wrote:

I would think the sickly green glow all their structures and troops give off would make it pretty obvious. Every Necron horde has a Necron Lord of some level commanding it, and most have Tomb Spyders and other units as well. There are only four C'tan remaining alive, with only two of those active (the Nightbringer and the Deceiver). So unless the battle was really important, I doubt one of them would show up in person. And the Nightbringer is only active because the Imperium accidentally woke him up, so they know about him for sure. That would definitely be including in Inquisitor training.

That throws a wrench in my plans, i really need to learn more about the Inquisition.

Lord Harrab wrote:

Deathbot wrote:

I would think the sickly green glow all their structures and troops give off would make it pretty obvious. Every Necron horde has a Necron Lord of some level commanding it, and most have Tomb Spyders and other units as well. There are only four C'tan remaining alive, with only two of those active (the Nightbringer and the Deceiver). So unless the battle was really important, I doubt one of them would show up in person. And the Nightbringer is only active because the Imperium accidentally woke him up, so they know about him for sure. That would definitely be including in Inquisitor training.

That throws a wrench in my plans, i really need to learn more about the Inquisition.

I recommend The Lexicanum, a Warhammer 40k wiki. It has tons of info and I learned much of what I know from there in the few weeks since I started this.

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:

Deathbot wrote:

I would think the sickly green glow all their structures and troops give off would make it pretty obvious. Every Necron horde has a Necron Lord of some level commanding it, and most have Tomb Spyders and other units as well. There are only four C'tan remaining alive, with only two of those active (the Nightbringer and the Deceiver). So unless the battle was really important, I doubt one of them would show up in person. And the Nightbringer is only active because the Imperium accidentally woke him up, so they know about him for sure. That would definitely be including in Inquisitor training.

That throws a wrench in my plans, i really need to learn more about the Inquisition.

I recommend The Lexicanum, a Warhammer 40k wiki. It has tons of info and I learned much of what I know from there in the few weeks since I started this.

Awesome. Thanks for the link.

By the way, a C'tan might show up at the battle if there were some important artifact or large Necron army that they wanted to retrieve there. The Nightbringer is the most likely to show up, being more powerful and bloodthirsty than the Deceiver, who is more cunning and subtle.

Ok, lets leave Lady Croft behind for a bit and focus on the "Tomb Raiders" themselves.

The people of Ferosia were mining on one of the other planets in the system, which (surprise surprise) turned out to hold a massive tomb complex and they awoke a huge horde of nercons. (Perhaps the planet was a Necron storage and staging center for when they - as a race- wake up fully and really get down to the business of harvesting for their masters)

Awoken before their time, they start to slaughter the sectors inhabitants, the directive of the Tomb Lord in charge is "Kill everything" .

The Ferosians are driven back to their home world, then to the walls of their capital, having suffered massive casualties in both their civilian and IG populations, the defenders of the capital are a mix-mash survivors of several regiments, (Mechanized, Infantry, Armored, you get the idea.) having been formed not long ago for the purpose of reinforcing the Cadian gate , but faced with this new threat are confused and desperate, yet still magaging to hold the walls until Croft (with her fleet.) arrives in pursuit of the elder. (This impresses her, as she knows the power of the necrons due to her training and research, and she knows they wouldn't have had the same Intel.)

Croft, upon actually seeing the Necorns with her own eyes, makes the link with the structures she has recently encountered and what little she was taught, sees the destruction they have wrought already, and re-evaluates her priories.

" There are Necron tombs all over the galaxy, they can do this at any time, no world is safe. They must be wiped out. But i need more information on this enemy."


She travels to the surface, takes command of the forces left and offers air support from her fleet in orbit.

Then the big bad Nightbringer shows up, attracted by the death and fear, breaches the walls and is only driven back by the concentrated fire of three Baneblade tanks, but destroying one in the process. This convinces Croft that Ferosia cannot be held, and reluctant to let such promising fighters die needlessly, orders the surviving populous to evacuate, covered by both the reformed Ferosian First and the fleet above, they make their escape.

They become the "Tomb Raiders" shortly afterward, launching attacks on Necron Tombs in order to gather information on the enemy as much as to destroy the tomb itself.

Lord Harrab wrote:Ok, lets leave Lady Croft behind for a bit and focus on the "Tomb Raiders" themselves.

The people of Ferosia were mining on one of the other planets in the system, which (surprise surprise) turned out to hold a massive tomb complex and they awoke a huge horde of nercons. (Perhaps the planet was a Necron storage and staging center for when they - as a race- wake up fully and really get down to the business of harvesting for their masters)

Awoken before their time, they start to slaughter the sectors inhabitants, the directive of the Tomb Lord in charge is "Kill everything" .

The Ferosians are driven back to their home world, then to the walls of their capital, having suffered massive casualties in both their civilian and IG populations, the defenders of the capital are a mix-mash survivors of several regiments, (Mechanized, Infantry, Armored, you get the idea.) having been formed not long ago for the purpose of reinforcing the Cadian gate , but faced with this new threat are confused and desperate, yet still magaging to hold the walls until Croft (with her fleet.) arrives in pursuit of the elder. (This impresses her, as she knows the power of the necrons due to her training and research, and she knows they wouldn't have had the same Intel.)

Croft, upon actually seeing the Necorns with her own eyes, makes the link with the structures she has recently encountered and what little she was taught, sees the destruction they have wrought already, and re-evaluates her priories.

" There are Necron tombs all over the galaxy, they can do this at any time, no world is safe. They must be wiped out. But i need more information on this enemy."


She travels to the surface, takes command of the forces left and offers air support from her fleet in orbit.

Then the big bad Nightbringer shows up, attracted by the death and fear, breaches the walls and is only driven back by the concentrated fire of three Baneblade tanks, but destroying one in the process. This convinces Croft that Ferosia cannot be held, and reluctant to let such promising fighters die needlessly, orders the surviving populous to evacuate, covered by both the reformed Ferosian First and the fleet above, they make their escape.

They become the "Tomb Raiders" shortly afterward, launching attacks on Necron Tombs in order to gather information on the enemy as much as to destroy the tomb itself.

Again, pretty good, but it leaves a few things out. First, they still would have had to somehow keep the Necrons away for several hours to evacuate the surviving troopers. There would be no way to make this possible if the Nightbringer was still on the field. He'd keep coming back until they or he was dead. And if he dies, remember, his essence simply retreats to a tomb and another "living metal' body is constructed for him. Same thing with the Deceiver (who can shapeshift, by the way). So unless those tanks took him out, he'd have stopped the evacuation by killing everyone.

Would saying the Eldar helped be pushing it a bit too far?

I mean, I've read the Blood-raven's trilogy and judging by their actions in the later two books, their hatred for the necrons seems more so then that of Humanity, (the Blood Ravens even allied with them to explore one tomb to check if a certain Lord was still in stasis.)

Lord Harrab wrote:Would saying the Eldar helped be pushing it a bit too far?

I mean, I've read the Blood-raven's trilogy and judging by their actions in the later two books, their hatred for the necrons seems more so then that of Humanity, (the Blood Ravens even allied with them to explore one tomb to check if a certain Lord was still in stasis.)

Yes, they do hate the Necrons more. That's because, in the distant past, the Necrons were defeated by the Eldar, but almost exterminated them. I suppose the Eldar might have attacked the Necrons, but they still think of humans as nothing more than mindless, disposable pawns to be used in their schemes at best, and vile animals fit only for slaughter at worst. Any help they gave would ultimately have to fit into a greater plan of there's. Still, they might have helped so that they could manipulate the Inquisitor and her regiment in the future.

"Just as Planned."

Lord Harrab wrote:"Just as Planned."

Random Eldar: Farseer, why did we sacrifice Eldar lives to help the mon-keigh?

Farseer: Because if we didn't, 10,000 years from now an Avatar of Khaine would have tripped over a piece of ancient rubble from that battle and fallen on me.



Seriously though, you might find a way to incorporate the manipulations of the Eldar into the Inquisitor's story, post-battle.

Perhaps, the important part is the formation of the regiment, then i can add to their story as i play battles.

Lord Harrab wrote:Perhaps, the important part is the formation of the regiment, then i can add to their story as i play battles.

Well, bet of luck with that. I hope that someday I get to play you so I can have Kharn plant Gorechild in the Inquisitor's head/feed the Inquisitor to my Tyranids.

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:Perhaps, the important part is the formation of the regiment, then i can add to their story as i play battles.

Well, bet of luck with that. I hope that someday I get to play you so I can have Kharn plant Gorechild in the Inquisitor's head/feed the Inquisitor to my Tyranids.

that would be awesome, but highly unlikely what with us living in different continents and all. but who knows? it might happen.

Now i just need my codex to arrive so i can form an army list.

Lord Harrab wrote:

Deathbot wrote:

Lord Harrab wrote:Perhaps, the important part is the formation of the regiment, then i can add to their story as i play battles.

Well, bet of luck with that. I hope that someday I get to play you so I can have Kharn plant Gorechild in the Inquisitor's head/feed the Inquisitor to my Tyranids.

that would be awesome, but highly unlikely what with us living in different continents and all. but who knows? it might happen.

Now i just need my codex to arrive so i can form an army list.

Maybe we'll wind up at a tournament together. Or perhaps I'll decide to take a vacation to New Zealand. Stranger things have happened.

Have you ordered anything but the codex yet? It might be good to order the model(s) that you want to make your Inquisitor out of asap. I've found out just how long international shipping can take, ordering from the UK.

I ordered the bitz for Croft as soon as i found them, and the codex was ordered a week or so back, (If memory serves) The rest will have to wait until the codexs arrives and i have an idea about what i want (and can legally have.) first.

Deathbot wrote:
Nice background. I like it. But why is an Inquisitor wasting her time chaisng a couple of elusive Eldar around? Not just yours, but I have often wondered about the focus on the Eldar by the Imperium in the general 40k universe? They're dealing with daemons, galaxy-eating bugs, a genetically-engineered war race trying to kill everything else just because it's there, and undead doom robots, each perfectly capable and willing to exterminate mankind. And yet they choose to waste precious time, material, and people chasing down the last of a dying race who really aren't that much of a threat to them, being pretty much the weakest power in the galaxy. Why isn't the Inquisitor fighting a more dangerous foe, like the Tyranids or Chaos? One that actually could destroy the Imperium?

Why chase Eldar over the others? Because when they're dying is when they're most dangerous. I'm pretty sure when the Eldar go down the Inquisition will be first on the scene to loot it's corpse.

Lord Harrab wrote:I ordered the bitz for Croft as soon as i found them, and the codex was ordered a week or so back, (If memory serves) The rest will have to wait until the codexs arrives and i have an idea about what i want (and can legally have.) first.

Some advice:

Tanks. Lots of tanks. You can never have too many.

Yep. MechCav or AirCav are your friends with IG. Make sure you stock up on either Tanks, or Valks and Vends. Should have enough for the vast majority of your army to ride in.