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But he is a character of Khrone ....pg30 DoC book

See the DoC FAQ...

None of the special characters are Heralds, thusly they can muster wither they wilt

To CptJoeyG Thanks. And sadly, they FAQed that Skulltaker CAN join whatever unit he wants. Which is good, because fantasy demons are so underpowered that they need all the help they can get. (sarcasm)

To TheDoc- 2 sides indeed. The misunderstanding came up because when I declared the first charge, he told me they would not be able to reach/see/align in to make it. It became a dispute, so I showed him how they would be able to make it in. He interrupted my 'Declare charge' phase and I felt obliged to show him how I could declare that as a charge. Then I continued with my turn. When he tried to do the Bloodthirster and said that he let me charge out of sequence, I asked him to tell me when. He would not state what he let me do out of sequence, only saying 'I knew.' I have been playing for many years and have seen 'strong arm' gaming before, just not to that extent. Fortunately, I am unconcerned. He lives far away, and it is unlikely that we will ever have to be across the table from each other again.
As an amusing PS. If you think he was in trouble on turn 2, when 7 swordmasters charged the almost 40 strong unit of horrors with a herald of Tzeentch BSB, the changeling, and skulltaker in it, then I must have been doing MUCH better than I thought. Oh, and I happen to have a pic of the turn in question



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Also it wasn't just the moving problems that was my issue with that guy. It was the fact that he started the game by mocking the fact that I did not have an 'army builder' list, and hinted that it might not be valid or legal. From there he complained that I did not loudly announce at the end of each phase what spells I had in play. I told him that that was a nice house rule, (I think it is), but I was under no obligation to do so. This was after I had cast Flames of the Phoenix on turn one. My turn two was when he blew up about it, and he insisted that I allow him to attempt a dispel since he still had dice in his pool at the end of his last casting phase. This was a player turn later. So I said no, and he got furious. He then declared that he was going to use a dispel scroll to dispel the spell in play. He actually made me call a judge over for that one. I really could go on and on. It wasn't one or two things, it was a whole game. So you may have seen that 'moment in time' as you put it, but i saw three hours. But I thank you for your input. I may not agree with it, but it provides another perspective. Thank you for sharing your thoughts with me.

Thanks to The Doc for his reply but I need no defense. Plain and simple, he won by about 500 pts., I lost. Last round he drew, I won with full points. He finished 5th, I finished 3rd. Everything happens for a reason and the way it was supposed to. Sorry we had a bad game and that we disagreed on our playing styles. I have only been playing for 6 months and try to keep things casual. We differ like everyone else in the world, I think that says enough. Best of luck in your future games.

Will- 2009 'Ard Boys - 3rd place

"I have only been playing for 6 months"
That shines a different light on things for me. I will give you the benefit of doubt then in this case. If we do ever play again, I will treat it as a fresh start and I hope you will do the same I will call the problems we had inexperience and misunderstanding. Also, I didn't get a chance to say it there, but congrats on third. You did get two massacres, so you obviously had a strong army. Good luck to any games you play in the future.

Gob - not sure if it's possible or not, as I don't have the book - but does flames of the phoenix specify being able to cast it into combat?

If it doesn't - you cast it into combat (on the big unit of horrors) I believe on turn 3, which killed around 10 models, quite a game changer!

yep, thats correct, so any of the special non-monstrous character daemons...not including changeling and karanak, since they are upgrade characters, can be put into any unit.

Sorry....... i can't view the FAQs, been in Iraq the last 12 months. But i did bring the book with me

Correct on Skulltaker - the named characters in the Demon codex are allowed to join other god's units - just not regular heralds - covered in the FAQ

Well, the whole "any of them can be in any unit" is a bit of a stretch...

The Masque can't join any unit, period, as per her rules. The Blue Scribes are mounted on a flying mount, (a disc), so they can't join a unit either. And why would you take Epidemius if you have non-Nurgle units? He wouldn't exactly do much good in a unit of Bloodletters or Pink Horrors or anything.

But you certainly can drop the Skulltaker anywhere...especially nasty if he's shoulder-to-shoulder with the Changeling, causing big nasty characters to have their stats swapped which makes it even harder not to get their skull taken.