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Kirasu wrote:Were they trying to win the "we're double the cost of forgeworld" award or something?

I mean they're fine models and all but are they insane on the prices?

These are one of a kind conversions, not mass production figures.

Not sure if Id consider forgeworld "mass produced"

6 of these guys is similar cost to a thunderhawk.. Cant imagine FW has sold too many of those either yet its a decent price in comparison

Now, if they were 28mm sexy half naked women im sure everyone would pay 100$ a model

I think they are certainly overpriced but I also think they look awesome. The thing is the BA termies from the new SH are in many ways just as good if not better and you get the game for the cost of one of these minis. He really needs to drop the price unless he knows the market will bare it.

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I don't know...they look cool, but are quite sub-standard to what Scibor can do!

Kirasu wrote:Not sure if Id consider forgeworld "mass produced"

6 of these guys is similar cost to a thunderhawk.. Cant imagine FW has sold too many of those either yet its a decent price in comparison

Now, if they were 28mm sexy half naked women im sure everyone would pay 100$ a model

No need, Hasslefree do plenty of laydeeez for about £3.50 each.

They do look crappy and rather drab, the other models on the site however do look nifty, especially their sci-fi dwarfs and ogres.

They remind me of World of Warcraft plate armor with a tabard over it. Especially Paladin/Arthas armor; they have shoulder pads that make Space Marines feel inadequate like the OP's minis.

PanzerLeader wrote:Pretty good models, but since I play a DIY chapter I'll pass on the terminators. Sorry, the "Celtic Warrior #1" who happens to resemble a pre-Horus Heresy Space Wolf terminator.

I did, however, pick up a four piece resin blister of theirs for use as Inquisitor henchmen. Pretty good stuff under the "28mm SF" tab and very reasonably priced for about $9 a model.

see no-one has bothered commenting on this try looking on scibor's site. Personally for the individual sculpts they are usless for most gamers Wallets. However if you check out their standard rangers you will find some very nice models including some very nice Ogryn standings (maybe use one iwth cigar as bonehead?)

anyway try lookign at the guys site before ripping on his (regardless of how shody some parts of certain models appear)

Sgt.Roadkill wrote:

PanzerLeader wrote:Pretty good models, but since I play a DIY chapter I'll pass on the terminators. Sorry, the "Celtic Warrior #1" who happens to resemble a pre-Horus Heresy Space Wolf terminator.

I did, however, pick up a four piece resin blister of theirs for use as Inquisitor henchmen. Pretty good stuff under the "28mm SF" tab and very reasonably priced for about $9 a model.

see no-one has bothered commenting on this try looking on scibor's site. Personally for the individual sculpts they are usless for most gamers Wallets. However if you check out their standard rangers you will find some very nice models including some very nice Ogryn standings (maybe use one iwth cigar as bonehead?)

anyway try lookign at the guys site before ripping on his (regardless of how shody some parts of certain models appear)

Just to reinforce SGT Roadkill's point. Here are some pics of the other minis. Very useable for codex/army book entries that are not really supported by GW's range.

MWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA HA HA AHHH...

These are Playmobil to the might that is LEGO!

Scibor, really not that great a sculptor to start with, nothing totally original comes off his 'production line' (although his armoured bear is sweet!) and then he has the temerity to charge these prices!

Not impressed scibor, not impressed at all.......

WARHOUND

I'm still not seeing it. What about these models is 'bad'?

@HBMC, you have to understand there's a very vocal clique of folks who absolutely loath Scibor. I think part of it was the early-on revelation that he uses press molds. Perhaps there's more, I dunno. But if you read the feedback on his coolminiornot entries, there were always a few folks that posted exactly the type of comments you're seeing here.

Perhaps there's a valid reason for the emnity, I have no idea, but it certainly seems to extend beyond the sculpts themselves.

Vale,

JohnS

The chaos dwarves are alright. I have nothing against them.
Many of his models however, are under-detailed and overpriced.
Compare:



So if $8.25 for a well detailed model (GW) is good, then why would you pay $9 for a model in a robe with a book?

Tough crowd...

Do you guys have to work to be this bitter or does it come naturally?

I'm sorry but you are being dense if you think that I am bitter for preferring a more detailed, less costly GW model over a less detailed, more expensive Scibor model. I'll always look for the better model and Scibor just doesn't win. Sure, if you want a blinged out terminator with some great detail and some sub par detail, for $100, it's your money and you can do whatever the hell you want with it. Don't go saying that I am bitter or unreasonable for pointing out how Scibor isn't super-special-awesome.
Now I'll make a dumb assumption about you and say that you are so bitter with GW that you prefer inferior models just because GW doesn't make them! That was fun wasn't it.

the $100 models are indivdual sculpts, i see similar conversion on ebay going for substanially m ore than that, His actualy model range is much cheaper and ALSO so some of the models don't ahve much detail? THEY STILL WORK AS MODELS, the them and the styel of the models doesn't need more detail, ever seen a real monk? They don't have to much detail either. (this is especially relevent in Ph34r's example)

ph34r wrote:The chaos dwarves are alright. I have nothing against them.
Many of his models however, are under-detailed and overpriced.

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So if $8.25 for a well detailed model (GW) is good, then why would you pay $9 for a model in a robe with a book?

In that particular case, because I want a robed scribe dude carrying a book, not some random dude carrying a streetlight and laded down with bling. How's that? Or maybe because I already have that fire-carrying dude and don't want doubles in my 20,000 point Witch Hunters army? Or maybe I'm not obligated to explain every single little purchasing decision to an independent panel of inquiry, how about that?

ph34r wrote:
So if $8.25 for a well detailed model (GW) is good, then why would you pay $9 for a model in a robe with a book?

Because the little dude in the robe works especially well with my Forgeworld Ordo Xenos inquistor as a henchmen without taking away too much from his paintjob.

ph34r wrote:I'm sorry but you are being dense if you think that I am bitter for preferring a more detailed, less costly GW model over a less detailed, more expensive Scibor model. I'll always look for the better model and Scibor just doesn't win. Sure, if you want a blinged out terminator with some great detail and some sub par detail, for $100, it's your money and you can do whatever the hell you want with it. Don't go saying that I am bitter or unreasonable for pointing out how Scibor isn't super-special-awesome.
Now I'll make a dumb assumption about you and say that you are so bitter with GW that you prefer inferior models just because GW doesn't make them! That was fun wasn't it.

Not really bitter with GW per se (thry have their moments); I buy my share of GW and play my share of GW games and expect to do so for a good many years. Nor am i defending Scribnor's pricing.

Just find it sad/ironic how quick people rush to be d-bags and slag someone's work...

One of the people defending the slagging of Scribnor in this thread has a thread with a model he greenstuffed that well... maybe he shouldn't be bashing Scribnor for the quality of his models until he ups his own game...

One of the people defending the slagging of Scribnor in this thread has a thread with a model he greenstuffed that well... maybe he shouldn't be bashing Scribnor for the quality of his models until he ups his own game...

I doubt he would sell that model for $100 though...

ph34r wrote:The chaos dwarves are alright. I have nothing against them.
Many of his models however, are under-detailed and overpriced.
Compare:
--pictures--

So if $8.25 for a well detailed model (GW) is good, then why would you pay $9 for a model in a robe with a book?

I would pay for it. I think that Scibor captured the aesthetic one would look for in a monk/servant type mini. I think the GW one is ridiculous. Makes for a great zealot for sure but overall its like comparing apples to oranges. I personally dislike that model and all of its unnecessary details and would probably not buy it under any circumstances..

I hope we will be seeing more of these 28mm servant like models! I'm very curious how he would do Imperial nobility for example!

I like his bolters with the butt-stocks on them. I might have to steal that.

I am curious how these small models look like unpainted, I mean they have been painted with great skill (understatement), but what I've kinda learned is that great paintjobs have the downside of hiding the imperfections of a model (might be an advantage though).

Malika2 wrote:I hope we will be seeing more of these 28mm servant like models! I'm very curious how he would do Imperial nobility for example!

Yes, me too!

redstripe wrote:I like his bolters with the butt-stocks on them. I might have to steal that.

Yes again!

And lets remember that Scibor isn't defending himself here, so by all means state your opinion (you don't need me to tell you that!) but try and keep it professional as opposed to personal, OK?

I still think some of his stuff is "smooth" so as to avoid the attention of GW's leagal department, who are surely checking in on him on a regular basis, 'just in case'.

Alpharius wrote:

I still think some of his stuff is "smooth" so as to avoid the attention of GW's leagal department, who are surely checking in on him on a regular basis, 'just in case'.

He needs to start a line of figures called Space Albania



Two-headed eagles for everyone!

That could work - and would be really funny too!

I say he goes for it - I mean, it is his time and money, right?

And couldn't someone do a Holy Roman Empire Version too?

This one here"



is even holding the Orb ot Antioch!

Agamemnon2 wrote:In that particular case, because I want a robed scribe dude carrying a book, not some random dude carrying a streetlight and laded down with bling. How's that? Or maybe because I already have that fire-carrying dude and don't want doubles in my 20,000 point Witch Hunters army? Or maybe I'm not obligated to explain every single little purchasing decision to an independent panel of inquiry, how about that?

That's fine, there is obviously a place for a plain dude with book, but I wouldn't expect to pay more for a model with less detail. I would pay less. It's a fine model, but it is very plain, I would expect to pay more around the area of $5 for it. The GW astropath is only just over $5 (though you have to buy 3 models), and it imo is a better sculpt.

CT GAMER wrote:Not really bitter with GW per se (thry have their moments); I buy my share of GW and play my share of GW games and expect to do so for a good many years. Nor am i defending Scribnor's pricing.

Just find it sad/ironic how quick people rush to be d-bags and slag someone's work...

One of the people defending the slagging of Scribnor in this thread has a thread with a model he greenstuffed that well... maybe he shouldn't be bashing Scribnor for the quality of his models until he ups his own game...

Scribor isn't bad, it is just too expensive and in my opinion lacking in non-pressed detail. Some of his work is super-awesome, like the huge custom Mortarion sculpt, which is one of my favorite models/conversions. Many of his non one-off models are great like the ogres and dark dwarves, but some are just boring and/or overpriced, like some of the scribe dudes. I am really not a fan of his "not terminators" though.

Majesticgoat wrote:I would pay for it. I think that Scibor captured the aesthetic one would look for in a monk/servant type mini. I think the GW one is ridiculous. Makes for a great zealot for sure but overall its like comparing apples to oranges. I personally dislike that model and all of its unnecessary details and would probably not buy it under any circumstances..

As I said above about the astropath, I just wouldn't pay $9 for one servant dude with low detail. I could pay $8 more and get a better quality sculpt of "dude in robes", as well as a naval officer and artillery officer. I'm alright with GW pricing most of the time, but slightly more expensive and slightly lower quality/lower detail drives it into the "no go" zone.

ph34r wrote:

Agamemnon2 wrote:In that particular case, because I want a robed scribe dude carrying a book, not some random dude carrying a streetlight and laded down with bling. How's that? Or maybe because I already have that fire-carrying dude and don't want doubles in my 20,000 point Witch Hunters army? Or maybe I'm not obligated to explain every single little purchasing decision to an independent panel of inquiry, how about that?

That's fine, there is obviously a place for a plain dude with book, but I wouldn't expect to pay more for a model with less detail. I would pay less. It's a fine model, but it is very plain, I would expect to pay more around the area of $5 for it. The GW astropath is only just over $5 (though you have to buy 3 models), and it imo is a better sculpt.

Well, he's 6€ to me, which is just under half of that three-mini blister of henchmen (12.50€). If I want, say, just two sages, buying those robed guys from Scibor is cheaper than buying those blisters of inquisitor henchmen from GW. I'm actually considering buying those "Space Dwarves" of his, since they're not bad sculpts and at 6€ a piece, are priced competitively with actual Squats off eBay. Also, Space Dwarf Napoleon would make a fine Fleet Officer.

The space dwarves are pretty cool, though an army of them would be cost prohibitive. There are only 2 sculpts so that isn't really an issue.
I stand by what I said before about pricing and detail for the scribe. Some of the scribes are cool though, like the fancy bolter or the helm bearer. It would be nice if they made a sword bearer, I'm sure people would like that one.