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warboss wrote:i care if they stay with 25/28mm so i can use my existing SWM. if they change the scale to 15mm or any bigger, i'll pass.

I feel like doing the same scale as the old one might make the people who already own SWM stuff more willing to pick up a copy of the rules. "Well, I already have Grievous and a buttload of droids." Though I guess they might also want to start totally fresh and make it seem as different as possible.

Darth Badguy wrote:

warboss wrote:i care if they stay with 25/28mm so i can use my existing SWM. if they change the scale to 15mm or any bigger, i'll pass.

I feel like doing the same scale as the old one might make the people who already own SWM stuff more willing to pick up a copy of the rules. "Well, I already have Grievous and a buttload of droids." Though I guess they might also want to start totally fresh and make it seem as different as possible.

Maybe but what about those of us that have the OLD metals(20mm, I think, I'd have to find them), hmm? Are we left out in the cold(again)?

Darth Badguy wrote:

warboss wrote:i care if they stay with 25/28mm so i can use my existing SWM. if they change the scale to 15mm or any bigger, i'll pass.

I feel like doing the same scale as the old one might make the people who already own SWM stuff more willing to pick up a copy of the rules. "Well, I already have Grievous and a buttload of droids." Though I guess they might also want to start totally fresh and make it seem as different as possible.

For that very reason, a new SW minis game will almost certainly be a different scale. What company in it's right mind would put out a game with miniatures in the same scale as the however many millions of WotC figures that are already are out there? It would be commercial suicide. Unless they had some sort of proprietary base like the 'clicky' games.

*shudder*

I hope not.

They could be smart and make it compatible for diferent scales

Alpharius wrote:Star Wars?

Does anyone still care about it after the beatings it (and we!) took from Movie #'s 1, 2 and 3?

MAYBE if they only concentrated on #'s 4, 5 and 6...

Another reason why I think a FoW Star Wars game would be a good fit. Just like WWII FoW, it could have 'eras'. Instead of Early War, Mid War, & Late War, you could have Clone Wars era, Rebellion era, etc.

And yes, 1,2,3 stink out loud and I'm embarrassed to call them Star Wars movies. The CGI Clone Wars cartoon is quite good, however, and has redeemed that part of Star Wars for me. The Clone Wars era certainly has the amount of units necessary to make a good army scale game. Rebellion era might have a harder time unless Battlefront was given some range to create some more vehicles and equipment for the Rebels. Of course there's always captured equipment too.

Sign me up for a a trade Fed. droid army...

ROGER ROGER...

Jack of all games wrote:

Alpharius wrote:Star Wars?

Does anyone still care about it after the beatings it (and we!) took from Movie #'s 1, 2 and 3?

MAYBE if they only concentrated on #'s 4, 5 and 6...

Another reason why I think a FoW Star Wars game would be a good fit. Just like WWII FoW, it could have 'eras'. Instead of Early War, Mid War, & Late War, you could have Clone Wars era, Rebellion era, etc.

And yes, 1,2,3 stink out loud and I'm embarrassed to call them Star Wars movies. The CGI Clone Wars cartoon is quite good, however, and has redeemed that part of Star Wars for me. The Clone Wars era certainly has the amount of units necessary to make a good army scale game. Rebellion era might have a harder time unless Battlefront was given some range to create some more vehicles and equipment for the Rebels. Of course there's always captured equipment too.

You sure you mean the CGI series and not the Genndy Tartakovsky series which was totaly awesome, and had the best Greivous ever. Oh and the awesome Arcs.

They're both good.

To a degree I'll agree with you H.B.M.C, but there are somethings I can't abide, Mandalorians being Pacifists is one, the other is an Emo Darth Vader.

Anakin isn't emo in the Clone Wars. He's positively chirpy. Far better than his flesh and blood counterpart.

And it wasn't all Mandalores, it was some of them.

The emo was directed at the movies.

I know it wasn't all of them, they just undid alot of fluff about the Mandos with that move.

Its like the Wolf of Fenris or when they screwed over Chaos.

Eh, I think the Wolf of Fenris is rather easily explained when one looks at the relatively low leadership of the SW codex as a whole.

While I'd love a 15mm Star Wars game, I don't think I'd have to time to get into for quite a while.

You mean it makes sense that a group that doesn't fall to Chaos and believes strongly in their packs and brotherhood suddenly turning to Chaos, because they dont want to die.

BrotherStynier wrote:They literally make them Pacifists, they despise war, call Jango Fett an average Bounty Hunter (he was Mand'alor) and claim they have no idea how he got the Armor. They make Death Watch the only group of Mandos that resemble how they were. Oh did I mention they claim the Mandos gave up on war and their warrior ways 300 years prior to the Clone Wars. Which would mean the Mandalorian Civil War never happened which means Jango's family is never killed, which means he never became Mand'alor (or Mando'ade in that matter), which means Dooku never leaves the Jedi Order and a Clone Army is never created.

Is that from the new Clone Wars series? I haven't seen it yet. Wouldn't suprise me though I they fethed up some the canon. Happens all the time since Lucas got into makingthe prequels

Ratbarf wrote:Would drool for Republic Commando models.

Jack of all games wrote:For that very reason, a new SW minis game will almost certainly be a different scale. What company in it's right mind would put out a game with miniatures in the same scale as the however many millions of WotC figures that are already are out there? It would be commercial suicide. Unless they had some sort of proprietary base like the 'clicky' games.

"Can you get that crumb off the battle field?"
"Erm ... that's Joda."
"Oh ... nice paint job!"

Its really annoying tbh, Lucasfilm allows all this third party stuff to stand as cannon, then George like some headless baboon stomps all over it, as he's the 'creator' or the universe and what he says goes.
Even though many of the pieces they have allowed others to create stood head and shoulders over George's own work.

In other news, has anyone found out if there is any truth in this potential April fool/rumour out of interest.

Because seriously, I've heard some good things about FoW, but I have no one to do WW2 stuff with. (Tis a no go with the wife as she finds games set on the era distasteful) of course if they do a Star Wars version, I'm all over it.

Hell, If I don't have a huge fully painted AT AT force with snowtroopers v's rebels with matching battle board with 6months of figures being released. Someone start checking Morgues, because I'm a dead man.

If this turns out to be true, I would jump on this bandwagon fast.

GG

Lets hope for rules compatability

Anpu42 wrote:Lets hope for rules compatability

Well played.

Battlefront Minis wrote:five things on this list are 100% true but five are not

What I'd prefer (don't care which will be true):
1. We are making a 15mm Captain America figure with special rules so he can join US forces in Flames Of War.
9. As part of a new license deal we will be releasing themed dice and gaming sets for the greatest comic book heroes in the world.
10. German forces will soon be able to add the Ark of the Covenant to their lists as a special occult unit.

6. To help improve morale in the Battlefront offices, all staff is being given a uniform consisting of a black shirt with silver skulls on the lapels and pink piping.

- a "comics" pseudo-historical expansion would be fun and cool. So would SS uniform shirts.

What I don't care about:
3. A free Osprey book with be given away with every issue of Wargames Illustrated in June.

- As I don't get Wargames Illustrated, I'm not excited over a free book.

4. Early War has proved to be much more work than we expected and we have to move its release back by six months.
8. We have a World War Two aircraft game almost finished so you will be able to dogfight your way through the war.
7. Having looked at the Pacific theatre, we have decided to make a naval game to go along with the Flames Of War books we are working on.

- really, I think FOW is just fine, and doesn't really need planes nor boats. But if BF can make them *fun*, then that'd be awesome.

What I'd rather not...
2. We have the rights to produce the Star Wars tabletop miniatures game now that the Wizards of the Coast license have expired.
5. Our next big thing is going to be a Pirate vs. Ninja skirmish game in 30mm.

- Star Wars, Pirates & Ninjas are old hat.

My only issue with a Star Wars miniatures game in that scale is that I doubt anyone would play anything else besides Empire or Republic. While you have a similar issue with any World War II game, people still want to play as US or British. I don't see many people wanting to play as Rebel Alliance when they could be fielding AT-ATs and the like.

If you play as Rebels, you get teddy bears and Jar-Jar. What's not to like?

Hopefully they wont make and Old Republic Era, as much as I like the Mandos they'd probably be the only thing played from then. Unless people got to use Sith Revan.

I want to do a Gungin army just to anoy peaple

Anung Un Rama.

Where did you FIND those!!!!

Man I cried when Sev bought it at the end of Republic Commando.....

Star Wars Minatures from Wizards of the Coast. Your probably best off if you try to get them seperatly from a site like Troll and Toad. They even have all 4 commandos in stock.

Or you could find a store where people play it and offer them something else in return.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Pretty cool if they did get the license.

I doubt the Captain America figure though.

Aha! I'm ahead on this one.

Going by what I've heard of the FoW rules (never got around to trying it out) I could see them making a small-scale mass-combat game work for Star Wars.

Although going by their current model standard, it would mean uber-cool vehicle models supported by rather dodgy infantry...

I never understood what's so great about games scaled this small. You can hardly convert anything and you need a crapload of new terrain as well.

Though I have to admit, adding Star Wars to the mixture would prbably change my opinion on that.

I'm guessing 1,5,6,9,10 are false