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The Great State of Texas

SilverMK2 wrote:I will hold out where I live for as long as possible so as to let all the impulsive "go grab guns and load up the truck" types to get killed and stop being a potential problem for me (I live in flats, so I would destroy the ground floor stairs, and possibly the 1st floor stairs too).

Then depending on how many zombies there are around, I will either drive straight to the coast, or stop off at the supermarket over the road for food etc. I may then go and join Orlanth in his castle, or head for one of the many islands off the coast of the UK.

Although I have some serious doubt as to the numbers of zombies that can be generated. Most accounts have people who are bitten taking about 12-16 hours to go from bitten to "zombie making death coma". However, since zombies tend to attack until their prey is dead (and they are having a good ol' munch on them), I don't think that many people will actually make it into zombies, as they will be killed before they are far enough along the path of infection to be reanimated.

yea thats kind of a fundamental flaw isn't it.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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As if I didn't need another reason to try historical gaming systems... The Alamo vs. Zombies!

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Although that is just for a kind of plague zombie, the radiation zombies are much more dangerous, as they don't even have to be killed/bitten by another zombie to come back as a zombie.

Vis the zombies in (I believe) the Romero films.

   
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The paint dungeon, Arizona

Those castles are gonna be a bit drafty in the winter

But you can then throw rocks at the frozen zombies to keep warm I suppose
   
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Frazzie the Alamo isnt a real castle, it will need perpetual firepower to hold, so bring along plenty more ammo.

Frankly you ought to look across the Atlantic still, but forget our castles, there might not want to share the resources no matter how much ammo you have.

Grab your Texans and get y'all to France.





Lovely chateau ripe for the picking. You septics really dont know what you are missing, having never had the pleasure of taking territory away from the French. You shouldn't have too many problems, but if things get difficult call us, or the Germans, and we will be happy to provide you with a few tips.

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SilverMK2 wrote:Although that is just for a kind of plague zombie, the radiation zombies are much more dangerous, as they don't even have to be killed/bitten by another zombie to come back as a zombie.

Vis the zombies in (I believe) the Romero films.

Wait whats a rad zombie? Theirs undead (alien induced) zombies, and virus zombies. Whats a rad zombie-a former surfer?

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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Georgia,just outside Atlanta

SilverMK2 wrote:Although that is just for a kind of plague zombie, the radiation zombies are much more dangerous, as they don't even have to be killed/bitten by another zombie to come back as a zombie.

Vis the zombies in (I believe) the Romero films.


Correct you are Silver,in the Romero films anyone who dies,for whatever reason (excluding having their brains blown out/destroyed),will reanimate and attack the living.

Now as to the OPs question.

This is one of my favorite topics,and my brother,friends and I have discussed "plans" for such a situation numerous times,basicly since my Brother (and several other friends/family memebers) work in the medical field,we are to contact each other at the first signs of "trouble",at that point we make our way to one of two rural areas,on wich family has property (homes,supplys,water,generators,etc.),with no one around for miles and lots of open "killing ground".
Getting to these locations would be the most difficult part,as I live 10 minutes from Atlanta (sure to fall apart very quickly),getting out of this area and "on the road"quickly is key to my plan working.
As for provisions on the road,I own 3 handguns + a shotgun,have plenty of ammo,and ever since going through Huricane Katrina,I keep LOTS of bottled water & canned food in the home,along with first aid supplies.
So...not a "great" plan,lots of variables that could surely go wrong...but it's what I have thus far.


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Orlanth wrote:Frazzie the Alamo isnt a real castle, it will need perpetual firepower to hold, so bring along plenty more ammo.

Orly thats its charm, you are talking to a Texan here...

If I were really worried there's four other missions in San Antonio (the Alamo was actually one of a string of missions here). Some have been restored and are fully secured. If it can keep out native hostiles it should work for zombies. There's at least one with all walls restored and really cool iron doors. You'd have to be zombie hercules to get through it. Plus the walls are low enough to drop a ladder down and go scavening.

http://www.nps.gov/saan/planyourvisit/concepcion.htm

Here is is. Impgrenable against Comanches and Apaches. Good enough for me. This is a picture fo the church. You can see some of the wall on the left with stables on the inside.
http://www.nps.gov/saan/historyculture/sanjosehistory1.htm

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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Georgia,just outside Atlanta

Frazzled wrote:
SilverMK2 wrote:Although that is just for a kind of plague zombie, the radiation zombies are much more dangerous, as they don't even have to be killed/bitten by another zombie to come back as a zombie.

Vis the zombies in (I believe) the Romero films.

Wait whats a rad zombie? Theirs undead (alien induced) zombies, and virus zombies. Whats a rad zombie-a former surfer?


In Romeros "Night of the living Dead",the "reason" given for undead reanimation is radiation from a destroyed space probe.


"I'll tell you one thing that every good soldier knows! The only thing that counts in the end is power! Naked merciless force!" .-Ursus.

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The Great State of Texas

FITZZ wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
SilverMK2 wrote:Although that is just for a kind of plague zombie, the radiation zombies are much more dangerous, as they don't even have to be killed/bitten by another zombie to come back as a zombie.

Vis the zombies in (I believe) the Romero films.

Wait whats a rad zombie? Theirs undead (alien induced) zombies, and virus zombies. Whats a rad zombie-a former surfer?


In Romeros "Night of the living Dead",the "reason" given for undead reanimation is radiation from a destroyed space probe.

Gotcha the alien undead ones. They're easy. Its really zombielympics with them. I have 4,000 rounds of .22LR and two scoped (and slowly softening up SWMBO for a competition level purchas) rifles for them.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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Seattle


Orlanth wrote:We may be a little constrained by our gun laws, but at least our forbears knew how to defend a property from hordes of scum.

Mall, farm, no thankyou. I will get together a few uninfected and head to Caenarvon or Warwick Castle, or even the Tower of London at a pinch.



Good king Edward knew how to build a fortress, the above fortress was designed to hold against armed living Welsh peasants with a minimum effective garrison of only 11, so the undead hordes should be a doddle especially once you back up your farmers shotguns and motorcycle helmets with some mail from the armoury and a nice large poleaxe.


Too much wall to defend, in a swarm situation, even the slowest, dumbest zombies could climb on top of each other over those walls. More people to guard the walls means more people to betray you and possibly to go bat gak crazy.

Mistress of minis wrote:AA-12's arent even in production yet, where do you plan on finding them? And empty they weigh 11 lbs, almost 15 when loaded with a drum. Undisciplined fire control means you and your buddies will be out of ammo on day one or two, because shot gun ammo is heavy you cant carry/haul much with you.

For me, I'd take over one of the nearby super max prisons. Use the non infected inmates to clear out the infected in exchange for freedom. Larger prisons have generators, medical facilities, very solid security measures, armories with a moderate amount of ammunition, tools/workshops- and a water source. People forget most municipal water supplies are gonna end once the lights go out.


ummm....yes they are, they have been around since the 70s in different forms. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atchisson_Assault_Shotgun
If not that, then there is the USAS 12. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daewoo_USAS-12

Prison would be waaay to risky. You think that all of those serial rapist cannabals in a SUPER MAX prison would just vacate and let you take over? ummm...no.


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Frazzled wrote:
Orlanth wrote:Frazzie the Alamo isnt a real castle, it will need perpetual firepower to hold, so bring along plenty more ammo.

Orly thats its charm, you are talking to a Texan here...

If I were really worried there's four other missions in San Antonio (the Alamo was actually one of a string of missions here). Some have been restored and are fully secured. If it can keep out native hostiles it should work for zombies. There's at least one with all walls restored and really cool iron doors. You'd have to be zombie hercules to get through it. Plus the walls are low enough to drop a ladder down and go scavening.

http://www.nps.gov/saan/planyourvisit/concepcion.htm

Here is is. Impgrenable against Comanches and Apaches. Good enough for me. This is a picture fo the church. You can see some of the wall on the left with stables on the inside.
http://www.nps.gov/saan/historyculture/sanjosehistory1.htm


Assuming the classic vast hordes of zombies you might have problems of the dead clambering over the dead and reaching the tops of the walls. Like you said, those walls are low.

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Seattle


Orlanth wrote:Assuming the classic vast hordes of zombies you might have problems of the dead clambering over the dead and reaching the tops of the walls. Like you said, those walls are low.


IG_urban wrote:Too much wall to defend, in a swarm situation, even the slowest, dumbest zombies could climb on top of each other over those walls.


readings posts helps.




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The Great State of Texas

Orlanth wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Orlanth wrote:Frazzie the Alamo isnt a real castle, it will need perpetual firepower to hold, so bring along plenty more ammo.

Orly thats its charm, you are talking to a Texan here...

If I were really worried there's four other missions in San Antonio (the Alamo was actually one of a string of missions here). Some have been restored and are fully secured. If it can keep out native hostiles it should work for zombies. There's at least one with all walls restored and really cool iron doors. You'd have to be zombie hercules to get through it. Plus the walls are low enough to drop a ladder down and go scavening.

http://www.nps.gov/saan/planyourvisit/concepcion.htm

Here is is. Impgrenable against Comanches and Apaches. Good enough for me. This is a picture fo the church. You can see some of the wall on the left with stables on the inside.
http://www.nps.gov/saan/historyculture/sanjosehistory1.htm


Assuming the classic vast hordes of zombies you might have problems of the dead clambering over the dead and reaching the tops of the walls. Like you said, those walls are low.


Admittedly my zombie movie intake is somewhat limited, but I've not seen that as an issue previously. They were not able to get onto the roof in Dawn of the Dead or Shawn of the Dead. Worse to worse the missions have a "keep" aspect of the main chapel wherein we could fall back to if needed. They are substantially higher and were designed for last ditch defense. The chapel would also be easier to defend with very limited points of entry and sniper positions available.

by the look of that castle there look to be multiple towers. If this becomes a problem just retire to one of the keeps.

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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Seattle

yes then you are stuck for good. you will just starve.

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IG_urban wrote:yes then you are stuck for good. you will just starve.

1. ies starve. Texans adapt and overcome.
2. Every good Texan who's ever lived near the coast and hurricane season will have sufficient supplies. Sadly, the zombie games won't last forever, and we'll have to go back to work.
3. There's another option...long pig barbeque. Just saying.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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I've already have my "survival basics":
My girlfriend, my motorcycle, and my shotgun.

"Hold on girl, it's gonna be one hell of a ride"



 
   
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IG_urban wrote:
Orlanth wrote:Assuming the classic vast hordes of zombies you might have problems of the dead clambering over the dead and reaching the tops of the walls. Like you said, those walls are low.


IG_urban wrote:Too much wall to defend, in a swarm situation, even the slowest, dumbest zombies could climb on top of each other over those walls.


readings posts helps.





Zombie cicrus acrobats?

Climbing over bodies to get to the top of a twelve foot wall in level ground is one thing, having enough bodies to fill a moat then reach the top of a thirty foot wall (minimum) plus battlements is something else entirely.

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Runnin up on ya.

Something every home should have:



What I love about this is the lid doubles as a riot shield.

Who needs to eat people when you can hit a surplus store and grab a few cases of MREs? Oh, wait...maybe people taste better.

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agnosto wrote:Something every home should have:



Check!

Who needs to eat people when you can hit a surplus store and grab a few cases of MREs? Oh, wait...maybe people taste better.

is it just me or do I smell BACON! Zombie, the other other other white meat.

Yea, as noted I'd likely stop at Alamo Drafthouse. They have pizza, burgers, and like 100 different types of beer plus wine. Check out some movies, eat some real buttered popcorn and a Blue Hawai pizza, load up the vehicle with munchies and head for the Mission. Academy sports is along the way. if not completely looted could hold up there instead (but I figure things are going to be completely looted).


-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Wishing I was back at the South Atlantic, closer to ice than the sun

What concerns me about this topic is that people out there fall into two camps.

1st; Lets have a little bit of fun with make believe

2nd; OMG lets get out of here, this could really happen, we're all going to die.

The first are having a laugh, the second really, really scare me.

Have we established a baseline for the type of Zombies yet?

Andrew

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Seattle

Orlanth wrote:
IG_urban wrote:
Orlanth wrote:Assuming the classic vast hordes of zombies you might have problems of the dead clambering over the dead and reaching the tops of the walls. Like you said, those walls are low.


IG_urban wrote:Too much wall to defend, in a swarm situation, even the slowest, dumbest zombies could climb on top of each other over those walls.


readings posts helps.





Zombie cicrus acrobats?

Climbing over bodies to get to the top of a twelve foot wall in level ground is one thing, having enough bodies to fill a moat then reach the top of a thirty foot wall (minimum) plus battlements is something else entirely.


ever been in a mosh pit?


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IG_urban wrote:also, you are still dealing with the fact that you have ACRES of unguarded wall.


I don't think I've ever seen a zombie film with either 1; a climbing zombie or 2; an acrobatic zombie.

Again a baseline for the zombie would be useful. The fast zombie may have enough instinct to climb/swarm a wall, but I don't think a shambling zombie would.

Andrew

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I've been in hundreds of mosh pits...but I don't see the connection between them and the ability of the undead to scale walls.
Now,I would suppose that should the bodies of eliminated dead pile high enough,the animated dead could perhaps climb the pile of their "fallen comrades" and reach the tops of a high wall,but that would be one hell of a big pile of bodies.

Now,concerning unguarded walls,I'd say that would be something you would definatly try to avoid,of course if you have the manpower,you post guards/snipers,if you have the resources,motion sensors,video survalence equipment...anti personal mines every 20 feet.


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There are several different types of zombies, of which I feel need to be addressed.

Romero "Shamblers": Slow but unstoppable. Virus spread variable. When you die, you turn into one, no matter what.
New Age "Ragers": Quick and deadly. Virus spreads in seconds. Can only be infected by body fluid transmission.

And one that I feel should be mentioned for the sake of arguement, since it seems to share the basic theme of zombie comics.

The Crossed: A virus that turns off the part of your brain that keeps you from acting out your sickest desires. Rape, murder, torture, arson, everything you may have thought about, even hidden away in the deepest, darkest part of your mind, you will act out. You cease to feel pain, or anything really. All you want is to keep the cycle of madness going. Virus spreads from body fluid contact.
The only upside to this, is that they aren't that bright, and won't wear clothes in cold environments.

My plan, in order of type:

Romero Plan: Stay at home. Destroy steps, board up garage. There is a river in my back yard that can be used to get water for as long as it keeps from going dry. Water can be boiled, making several risky trips to fill up water containres. I have animals if the canned food runs out. Sit up on the roof, sniping zombie, but tending to just wait it out for the most part.

New Age: Board up windows and destroy steps. Gather as much water as possible from river before it drys up.
Wait it out in my attic.

Crossed: Go home, get .22, get KA-BAR, and proceed to run like hell. It's the only way to survive them.

I personally would prefer a seige/defence scenario rather then an "on the move" approach that you tend to see.

Seige Plan:

Stage One: Remain indoors. Defned defend defend.

Stage Two: Pack up shop. Taking essential tools. Axe, crowbar, sledgehammer, claw hammer, saws, nails, wrech, flashlights, pocket knife.
Essentials. Water bottles, canned goods.
Weapons: .22 long rifle (my parents finally bought me one to practice for the rifle team with!), KA-BAR, Bayonet, other assorted knives.
get to my high school. Break in. Steal keys to bus depot. using stolen buses, make a defensive barricade. Using axe and saws, slowly but surely remove nearby trees to be used for even more wall building.

Break into rifle range, steal the .22s and get up onto one of the roofs of the school (three floors.) use this as prime sniping spot. Wait it out, venturing past barricades to look for survivors/scavenge.
I can use the football and other athletic feilds to plan food if need be, as well as the gym and weight room to keep fit. Library to do some learnin while I'm it.

I ahve alot of time on my hands.
   
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Seattle

AndrewC wrote:
IG_urban wrote:also, you are still dealing with the fact that you have ACRES of unguarded wall.


I don't think I've ever seen a zombie film with either 1; a climbing zombie or 2; an acrobatic zombie.

Again a baseline for the zombie would be useful. The fast zombie may have enough instinct to climb/swarm a wall, but I don't think a shambling zombie would.

Andrew


FITZZ wrote: I've been in hundreds of mosh pits...but I don't see the connection between them and the ability of the undead to scale walls.
Now,I would suppose that should the bodies of eliminated dead pile high enough,the animated dead could perhaps climb the pile of their "fallen comrades" and reach the tops of a high wall,but that would be one hell of a big pile of bodies.

Now,concerning unguarded walls,I'd say that would be something you would definatly try to avoid,of course if you have the manpower,you post guards/snipers,if you have the resources,motion sensors,video survalence equipment...anti personal mines every 20 feet.




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Unless you have guards, and even IF you have guards. A walled fortress is bad news bears. Having a roof is the thing that is lacking. If they climb on top of your building, your fine, if they make it over your walls, your screwed. I would rather be safe than sorry.

It's neat that you have been to hundreds of mosh pits. And if you cannot see the connection between a mosh pit, in which I have seen people larger than myself jump into/on top of, and have seen people literally climb on top of other people with ease, and a mob of zombies, then I don't know man....

If you have a fortress, ESPECIALLY with open air areas that are going to put you, your food, and ANY OTHER LIVING THING's scent out in the breeze easily, zombies from MILES around are going to be swarming you within days. So in a good scenario you would probably have around 1500-5000, but on a crowded piece of land like the UK, in an area like that, probably more like 20,000. Are you going to tell me that you would find it completely impossible for them to scale the walls? Think......a layer of 2 or 3 "bodies" or trampled bodies, from the sheer weight and mass pressing towards the wall, then climbing on top of other zombies....you are already talking about 10-15 feet. It's only a matter of time. The whole while you and MAYBE 20 people are going to be rushing around checking all of the walls....

I dunno man... I will stick with Costco.



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Golden Eyed Scout wrote:There are several different types of zombies, of which I feel need to be addressed.

Romero "Shamblers": Slow but unstoppable. Virus spread variable. When you die, you turn into one, no matter what.
New Age "Ragers": Quick and deadly. Virus spreads in seconds. Can only be infected by body fluid transmission.

And one that I feel should be mentioned for the sake of arguement, since it seems to share the basic theme of zombie comics.

The Crossed: A virus that turns off the part of your brain that keeps you from acting out your sickest desires. Rape, murder, torture, arson, everything you may have thought about, even hidden away in the deepest, darkest part of your mind, you will act out. You cease to feel pain, or anything really. All you want is to keep the cycle of madness going. Virus spreads from body fluid contact.
The only upside to this, is that they aren't that bright, and won't wear clothes in cold environments.

My plan, in order of type:

Romero Plan: Stay at home. Destroy steps, board up garage. There is a river in my back yard that can be used to get water for as long as it keeps from going dry. Water can be boiled, making several risky trips to fill up water containres. I have animals if the canned food runs out. Sit up on the roof, sniping zombie, but tending to just wait it out for the most part.

New Age: Board up windows and destroy steps. Gather as much water as possible from river before it drys up.
Wait it out in my attic.

Crossed: Go home, get .22, get KA-BAR, and proceed to run like hell. It's the only way to survive them.

I personally would prefer a seige/defence scenario rather then an "on the move" approach that you tend to see.

Seige Plan:

Stage One: Remain indoors. Defned defend defend.

Stage Two: Pack up shop. Taking essential tools. Axe, crowbar, sledgehammer, claw hammer, saws, nails, wrech, flashlights, pocket knife.
Essentials. Water bottles, canned goods.
Weapons: .22 long rifle (my parents finally bought me one to practice for the rifle team with!), KA-BAR, Bayonet, other assorted knives.
get to my high school. Break in. Steal keys to bus depot. using stolen buses, make a defensive barricade. Using axe and saws, slowly but surely remove nearby trees to be used for even more wall building.

Break into rifle range, steal the .22s and get up onto one of the roofs of the school (three floors.) use this as prime sniping spot. Wait it out, venturing past barricades to look for survivors/scavenge.
I can use the football and other athletic feilds to plan food if need be, as well as the gym and weight room to keep fit. Library to do some learnin while I'm it.

I ahve alot of time on my hands.


oh...and the ZSG, common sense, and EVERY ZOMBIE MOVIE, have proven the barricading yourself in a house is the worst idea of all time.

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If you have a fortress, ESPECIALLY with open air areas that are going to put you, your food, and ANY OTHER LIVING THING's scent out in the breeze easily, zombies from MILES around are going to be swarming you within days. So in a good scenario you would probably have around 1500-5000, but on a crowded piece of land like the UK, in an area like that, probably more like 20,000. Are you going to tell me that you would find it completely impossible for them to scale the walls? Think......a layer of 2 or 3 "bodies" or trampled bodies, from the sheer weight and mass pressing towards the wall, then climbing on top of other zombies....you are already talking about 10-15 feet. It's only a matter of time. The whole while you and MAYBE 20 people are going to be rushing around checking all of the walls....

Why do you assume that all zombies would have super-senses or something?

People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. 
   
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IG_urban wrote:

READ IT


Not only that...watch ANY ZOMBIE MOVIE....holy piss.


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whilst you are all dying...I will be in my Costco, alive.


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my costco plan is failsafe against all types of zombies as well.

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IG_urban wrote:Automatically Appended Next Post:
Golden Eyed Scout wrote:There are several different types of zombies, of which I feel need to be addressed.

Romero "Shamblers": Slow but unstoppable. Virus spread variable. When you die, you turn into one, no matter what.
New Age "Ragers": Quick and deadly. Virus spreads in seconds. Can only be infected by body fluid transmission.

And one that I feel should be mentioned for the sake of arguement, since it seems to share the basic theme of zombie comics.

The Crossed: A virus that turns off the part of your brain that keeps you from acting out your sickest desires. Rape, murder, torture, arson, everything you may have thought about, even hidden away in the deepest, darkest part of your mind, you will act out. You cease to feel pain, or anything really. All you want is to keep the cycle of madness going. Virus spreads from body fluid contact.
The only upside to this, is that they aren't that bright, and won't wear clothes in cold environments.

My plan, in order of type:

Romero Plan: Stay at home. Destroy steps, board up garage. There is a river in my back yard that can be used to get water for as long as it keeps from going dry. Water can be boiled, making several risky trips to fill up water containres. I have animals if the canned food runs out. Sit up on the roof, sniping zombie, but tending to just wait it out for the most part.

New Age: Board up windows and destroy steps. Gather as much water as possible from river before it drys up.
Wait it out in my attic.

Crossed: Go home, get .22, get KA-BAR, and proceed to run like hell. It's the only way to survive them.

I personally would prefer a seige/defence scenario rather then an "on the move" approach that you tend to see.

Seige Plan:

Stage One: Remain indoors. Defned defend defend.

Stage Two: Pack up shop. Taking essential tools. Axe, crowbar, sledgehammer, claw hammer, saws, nails, wrech, flashlights, pocket knife.
Essentials. Water bottles, canned goods.
Weapons: .22 long rifle (my parents finally bought me one to practice for the rifle team with!), KA-BAR, Bayonet, other assorted knives.
get to my high school. Break in. Steal keys to bus depot. using stolen buses, make a defensive barricade. Using axe and saws, slowly but surely remove nearby trees to be used for even more wall building.

Break into rifle range, steal the .22s and get up onto one of the roofs of the school (three floors.) use this as prime sniping spot. Wait it out, venturing past barricades to look for survivors/scavenge.
I can use the football and other athletic feilds to plan food if need be, as well as the gym and weight room to keep fit. Library to do some learnin while I'm it.

I ahve alot of time on my hands.


oh...and the ZSG, common sense, and EVERY ZOMBIE MOVIE, have proven the barricading yourself in a house is the worst idea of all time.


That seems to be the case only when dealing with LARGE HORDES. I live in a rural area, and you have to drive about an hour to get anyplace, except the school.
So while everybody is busy trying to get to the National Guard base, or to a gunshop, I'm wating at home, taking pot shots at the occasional zombie with my .22 to keep them from massing around the house.

Alos, not every zombie movie has shown barricading yourself to be a bad idea.

Dawn of the Dead: The main chaarcter survives the night by barricading himself in a farmhouse, hiding in the basement. (not where I would hide, but still.)
Shaun of the Dead: Until the zombies attention was grabbed, they were doing pretty well.
28 Weeks Later: Until the infected found the survivors, they did fine.

And besides, zombies are only as dangerous a speople.

So a 5'10", 155 lbs person may be up against a 6'4" 210 pounder, the shorter one will have the advantage, because their body is rottting off.


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IG_urban wrote:Automatically Appended Next Post:
Golden Eyed Scout wrote:There are several different types of zombies, of which I feel need to be addressed.

Romero "Shamblers": Slow but unstoppable. Virus spread variable. When you die, you turn into one, no matter what.
New Age "Ragers": Quick and deadly. Virus spreads in seconds. Can only be infected by body fluid transmission.

And one that I feel should be mentioned for the sake of arguement, since it seems to share the basic theme of zombie comics.

The Crossed: A virus that turns off the part of your brain that keeps you from acting out your sickest desires. Rape, murder, torture, arson, everything you may have thought about, even hidden away in the deepest, darkest part of your mind, you will act out. You cease to feel pain, or anything really. All you want is to keep the cycle of madness going. Virus spreads from body fluid contact.
The only upside to this, is that they aren't that bright, and won't wear clothes in cold environments.

My plan, in order of type:

Romero Plan: Stay at home. Destroy steps, board up garage. There is a river in my back yard that can be used to get water for as long as it keeps from going dry. Water can be boiled, making several risky trips to fill up water containres. I have animals if the canned food runs out. Sit up on the roof, sniping zombie, but tending to just wait it out for the most part.

New Age: Board up windows and destroy steps. Gather as much water as possible from river before it drys up.
Wait it out in my attic.

Crossed: Go home, get .22, get KA-BAR, and proceed to run like hell. It's the only way to survive them.

I personally would prefer a seige/defence scenario rather then an "on the move" approach that you tend to see.

Seige Plan:

Stage One: Remain indoors. Defned defend defend.

Stage Two: Pack up shop. Taking essential tools. Axe, crowbar, sledgehammer, claw hammer, saws, nails, wrech, flashlights, pocket knife.
Essentials. Water bottles, canned goods.
Weapons: .22 long rifle (my parents finally bought me one to practice for the rifle team with!), KA-BAR, Bayonet, other assorted knives.
get to my high school. Break in. Steal keys to bus depot. using stolen buses, make a defensive barricade. Using axe and saws, slowly but surely remove nearby trees to be used for even more wall building.

Break into rifle range, steal the .22s and get up onto one of the roofs of the school (three floors.) use this as prime sniping spot. Wait it out, venturing past barricades to look for survivors/scavenge.
I can use the football and other athletic feilds to plan food if need be, as well as the gym and weight room to keep fit. Library to do some learnin while I'm it.

I ahve alot of time on my hands.


oh...and the ZSG, common sense, and EVERY ZOMBIE MOVIE, have proven the barricading yourself in a house is the worst idea of all time.


That seems to be the case only when dealing with LARGE HORDES. I live in a rural area, and you have to drive about an hour to get anyplace, except the school.
So while everybody is busy trying to get to the National Guard base, or to a gunshop, I'm wating at home, taking pot shots at the occasional zombie with my .22 to keep them from massing around the house.

Alos, not every zombie movie has shown barricading yourself to be a bad idea.

Dawn of the Dead: The main chaarcter survives the night by barricading himself in a farmhouse, hiding in the basement. (not where I would hide, but still.)
Shaun of the Dead: Until the zombies attention was grabbed, they were doing pretty well.
28 Weeks Later: Until the infected found the survivors, they did fine in the begining


And besides, zombies are only as dangerous a speople.

So a 5'10", 155 lbs person may be up against a 6'4" 210 pounder, the shorter one will have the advantage, because their body is rottting off.

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