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Here another, unconfirmed rumour from Warseer:
TeDasCuen from Spain got the info from his local GW shop, that there will be a pdf of the WH Codex online next month. This was cryptically announced by an official GW email:

(05-08-2009) GW Spain email response:
The Codex is not available, has been discontinued from our usual range of products. You can still play and is legal, but unfortunately we have no units in stock. Anyway, hope to hang soon on our website.

Possible that this is a Spanish version only, but there is hope for an English version as well.

Warseer thread: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258430

One hopes, at a minimum, that the GK Codex at least provides a picture of the StormRaven...

My Double D. Looks like you've been channel surfing...

Uriels_Flame wrote:My Double D. Looks like you've been channel surfing...

And you know this in what way?

Brother SRM wrote:

bhsman wrote:Well, while we're on the first page we might as well get this linked. Interesting if only from the fact that it compiles GW responses on the Inquisition via email and calling them directly.

To anyone who hasn't read that link, go read it now. Lots of somewhat grounded rumor and speculation going on.

It's also worthwhile to browse through the last couple of pages too, since the OP hasn't been updating much lately and so there's a lot more of content.

Hopefully if a codex is supposed to come out in August, GW will have the announcement ready by June.

June!?

Ohmygodohmygodohmygod!!

THERE'S JUST NOT ENOUGH TIME TO GET READY!!

S_P

Brother SRM wrote:To anyone who hasn't read that link, go read it now. Lots of somewhat grounded rumor and speculation going on.

Agreed. It looks like a lot of "GK will be next if we say so enough times."
On the other hand, removing models from stores is a big indicator. This is always what happens before a new release. Always.
However, DE were removed from shelves long ago due to some shenanigans involving shelf-space allotment. It's possible (though unlikely) that they are removing GKs to make room for DE... Oooohh that would be a wonderful, wonderful surprise.

"Oooo look at us! We're pulling GK from the shelves! You know what that means!... NEW Dark Eldar!!!"

My friend owns an LGS near where I live..yes I know that sounds 'cliche'..

From what is told to him by a GW rep'(they were discussing Spearheads' arrival) is that Inquisition codex is up for the month of August but Sisters won't be in it. Other news is that Dark Eldar is scheduled for Christmas this year.

Lets pass the salt on this. He's a good friend of mine and I doubt he'd lie about this BUT since 'GW informed' him..yeah..you get my meaning...
thats' my 'two salts'...

Archonate wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:To anyone who hasn't read that link, go read it now. Lots of somewhat grounded rumor and speculation going on.

Agreed. It looks like a lot of "GK will be next if we say so enough times."
On the other hand, removing models from stores is a big indicator. This is always what happens before a new release. Always.
However, DE were removed from shelves long ago due to some shenanigans involving shelf-space allotment. It's possible (though unlikely) that they are removing GKs to make room for DE... Oooohh that would be a wonderful, wonderful surprise.

"Oooo look at us! We're pulling GK from the shelves! You know what that means!... NEW Dark Eldar!!!"

I hate to say it, but looks like DE have been put back again and that here comes another Imperial Army.

TheUnforgiven wrote:Inquisition codex is up for the month of August but Sisters won't be in it. Other news is that Dark Eldar is scheduled for Christmas this year.

Lets pass the salt on this. He's a good friend of mine and I doubt he'd lie about this BUT since 'GW informed' him..yeah..you get my meaning...
thats' my 'two salts'...

Despite the salt for anything unconfirmed by GW itself, this does make a lot of sense.

Grey Knights & Dark Eldar this year, in whatever order.

The two releases I expect after that, for the first half of 2011, are Necrons & Black Templars, in no particular order.

Although you never know of course, Eldar and Dark Angels are too recent to be re-released anytime soon. Tau should be updated before them. But yeah, should have would have doesn't mean anything.

Sisters of Battle, well I really don't know. I have always understood this was/is 40K's worst selling army, so why would GW hava any reason to update them before all of the others mentioned. The $$$ ultimately determines GW's decisions. My (irrelevant) guess would be that there will be no new Sisters before 2012 at the earliest, if ever at all.

TBD wrote:
Although you never know of course, Eldar and Dark Angels are too recent to be re-released anytime soon. Tau should be updated before them. But yeah, should have would have doesn't mean anything.

Eldar codex is in a fairly decent place, as is Tau. Dark Angels has some glaring issues that can be fixed in a manner of moments in a word processor and shipped off to the printer.
Admittedly, all three of these codexes have that issue. Copy/paste over the XV9 Hazard suits from IA: Apocalypse for the Tau, release a plastic kit of Pathfinders, a plastic kit based off the XV-89 Crisis Suits from FW, plasticize the XV9s and bam. That's a whole new release wave for the Tau, with very little in the way of actual work done.

Eldar I'm not too up on other than the Eldar players locally not really being too gripy about their 'dex.

Dark Angels...well. Storm Shields to 4++ v. shooting AND close combat(as per Codex) as a start, then Scouts as Troops with option for Land Speeder Storm(or Dark Angels having 'elite' worthy Scouts), Deathwing Terminators able to actually up their squad size to 10(why they can't, I'll never know) and able to take dedicated transports alongside of the option to make the Deathwing unit "Inner Circle" and have them equipped with Relic Blades and Storm Shields would be an interesting 'theme' unit(Crusaders? Seneschals? Paladins? something knightly named for that one), Belial being worded as most characters are now, with the option for his Sword of office being for either hand, but only takable once--and the option to have an upped "Storm Shield" alongside of it, Dreadnoughts taken in conjunction with Deathwing forces being able to Deep Strike with the Terminators would be -amazing- but not 100% necessary are all I can really think of in regards to rules right now.
A Belial model wouldn't go unloved, or a sprue of hooded heads intended exclusively to be used with Terminator Armor, alongside of a sprue of Relic Blades with Terminator arms and more ornate/knightly Terminator Storm Shields.

Sisters of Battle, well I really don't know. I have always understood this was/is 40K's worst selling army, so why would GW have any reason to update them before all of the others mentioned. The $$$ ultimately determines GW's decisions. My (irrelevant) guess would be that there will be no new Sisters before 2012 at the earliest, if ever at all.

Sisters are the new Squats, in my opinion.
People insist that they're an incredibly popular army that sell incredibly well, and would have new players flocking to them in droves abandoning every other army out there--if only they were released!.

Kanluwen wrote:Admittedly, all three of these codexes have that issue. Copy/paste over the XV9 Hazard suits from IA: Apocalypse for the Tau, release a plastic kit of Pathfinders, a plastic kit based off the XV-89 Crisis Suits from FW, plasticize the XV9s and bam. That's a whole new release wave for the Tau, with very little in the way of actual work done.

while what you're suggesting is nice, it isn't "very little" work converting all that to plastic. also, tau are technically on their second codex but there is a catch. the tau empire codex was a half assed update to the original tau one with very little flavor added. most of the tau players i've talked to in person would rather wait longer but have GW come up with a REAL codex revision instead of the half hearted one you're proposing since we've already been down that road. more fluff, an update to the story line, special characters that are *gasp* actually worth taking, ways to change the force org, wargear that actually works in 4th edition, and a suit portable blast weapon would sure be nice. oh, and crisis suits that don't have 80 year old woman ankles that break in a stiff wind. the xv89 FW models still have that problem.

Tau and Imperial Guard, in my opinion, are two that have real issues whenever you try to design special characters.

You can't have overpowered superclosecombatcharacters since y'know...they're shooting oriented, and it'd fill a gap of vulnerability.

The idea that Sisters and Codex: WH were removed from sale in early 2010 - and won't get an update until 2012 seems strange.

However, the idea that they won't get an update until mid 2011 is not very much better... There are legends about an update (Plastic sisters, some sort of model with twin cats-o-nine-tails, and some sort of IC with a storm bolter on her wrist like a GK...) - but serriously? 18 months from removal of old codex to release of new one?

The one thing everyone agrees on is that there will be no sisters in the Grey Knight codex - whatever form that takes.

Yes, I am starting to wonder if I should find a Tyranid-proof dustjacket for my current codex.

radiohazard wrote:I hate to say it, but looks like DE have been put back again and that here comes another Imperial Army.

I can't be too upset, especially not when a friend of mine is winning at 'Ard Boyz today with Dark Eldar and there's not a Daemonhunters list in sight.

TheUnforgiven wrote:My friend owns an LGS near where I live..yes I know that sounds 'cliche'..

From what is told to him by a GW rep'(they were discussing Spearheads' arrival) is that Inquisition codex is up for the month of August but Sisters won't be in it. Other news is that Dark Eldar is scheduled for Christmas this year.

Lets pass the salt on this. He's a good friend of mine and I doubt he'd lie about this BUT since 'GW informed' him..yeah..you get my meaning...
thats' my 'two salts'...

My patience would wear out a lot if Sisters aren't in the new Inquisition Codex. I'll be fine as long as all the current models stay available online. If not I guess the only other option I'd have would be the upcoming Dark Eldar.

I was in the GW store close to me yesterday and my black shirt asked why i moved from Gk's to Blood angels, i said that i was sick of the metal models he told me to hold onto my models and not to sell them as something will be happening to them very soon. Unfortunatly i couldnt get anything else out of him.

It is looking almost certain now that GK are next after Fantasy, the rumour mill has swung very firmly back in their favour after a brief flirtation with Dark Eldar info.

bhsman wrote:

radiohazard wrote:I hate to say it, but looks like DE have been put back again and that here comes another Imperial Army.

I can't be too upset, especially not when a friend of mine is winning at 'Ard Boyz today with Dark Eldar and there's not a Daemonhunters list in sight.

DE are still very competitive and tbh have been for a long time. It just took the right kind of build.

Thamor wrote:I was in the GW store close to me yesterday and my black shirt asked why i moved from Gk's to Blood angels, i said that i was sick of the metal models he told me to hold onto my models and not to sell them as something will be happening to them very soon. Unfortunatly i couldnt get anything else out of him.

I had a GW guy today ask me - "why don't you collect GK, they're a good army you know". Very subtle

Gargskull wrote:It is looking almost certain now that GK are next after Fantasy, the rumour mill has swung very firmly back in their favour after a brief flirtation with Dark Eldar info.

Unfortunately, I agree with you. My sources of info have totally dried up on DE, but are giving me ubsurd amounts of GK info. At least after GK we have very few Imperial Armies left to codex. Only Xenos and Heretics from here on in.

BTW - I read somewhere on here about Chaos in 2012. Someone laughed it off. That is actually a very reasonable release time for them, regardless of the apocalyptic undertones of that year. I'd put money on it now for Chaos in 2012.

I kinda hope Chaos comes in 2012 if for no other reason than the plethora of bad jokes it will generate.

As for DE being pushed back again:



That, combined with the incoming price hike (again) and no Tau codex or models in sight either, means I'm taking the rest of the year off from GW. A year which I'm officially dubbing "Year of the Imperium"...which is actually every year, but moreso this one than any other.

We don't -know- Dark Eldar have been pushed back.

Kanluwen wrote:Sisters are the new Squats, in my opinion.

FWIW, roughly half of my playgroup owns at least minimal Sisters armies, self included. One owns a rather sizable force, probably around 4k pts.

Kanluwen wrote:We don't -know- Dark Eldar have been pushed back.

We never knew DE were even on the schedule...

I'm very disturbed seeing ork smilies next to a clearly wet Asian female.

Back on topic:
I've never seen a Sisters army in my local group. Tons of 'Nids, from the prior Codex(including one guy who can field -three- separate 5k forces), Tau, and Eldar.

Maybe it's just you crazy West Coasters

Kanluwen wrote:We don't -know- Dark Eldar have been pushed back.

Exactly!

We don't KNOW anything yet!!!

We never knew DE were even on the schedule...

Exactly!

We don't KNOW anything yet!!!

Well we do know that Dark Eldar are being released this fall with 12 new plastic boxes. Everyone who say otherwise are in denial and should stop embarassing themselves with cries of salt. I was englightened a week or two ago right here at Dakka Dakka by the moderators and a few other people EDITED BY WAAAGH_GONADS- Do not dispariage other users. I declare a holy war on all infidels who try to claim otherwise.

Sidstyler wrote:That, combined with the incoming price hike (again) and no Tau codex or models in sight either, means I'm taking the rest of the year off from GW. A year which I'm officially dubbing "Year of the Imperium"...which is actually every year, but moreso this one than any other.

Yup. I'm tired of GW pushing a bunch of crap on me that I don't care about. I think last year, even SM players started saying "ok we get it GW, you love SMs... But could you please give us something to fight? We're kinda getting sick of all these SM releases..."

Alpharius wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:We don't -know- Dark Eldar have been pushed back.

Exactly!
We don't KNOW anything yet!!!

We know GW well enough to know they'd never put SMs behind DE. GK SMs being a niche army. DE being much more universally anticipated. They'll still release GKs first, just for being SMs.

I agree with the above post. Space Marines are cool and all but I'm sick of all these new renditions. The various chapters are cool but to me it's all just SMs, the trademark army of the game that we all see everywhere. I'd much rather see a revival of an old codex than an all-new one on such a common army. I wanna see a new Sisters codex not only because it's what I play, but that they don't even have a 5e update yet. Idk what's likely to happen but if they do become the new squats as some have said, I'll either play DE or not at all. I've read of Sisters being the worst selling army but regardless a new codex for them and plastic models could increase the sales. Also, it'd be a lot more refreshing than yet another SM repetition.

no, you only get one save...
wait what...?

sorry, got confused after i noticed DD's new avatar...

@Deep Throat:
Well DE and SoB stand as a testament to the fact that just because an army doesn't sell very well, doesn't mean the concept behind it has no appeal. It only means that GW did a piss-poor job with delivering and supporting the army. That is easily rectified. And doing so results in the same army selling incredibly well. But it requires GW prying its tongue from the lumen of the Space Marine rectum... And therein lies the problem. Only with great difficulty, and much kicking and screaming will they ever occasionally do that. And even then, they'll return to it asap.

radiohazard wrote:DE are still very competitive and tbh have been for a long time. It just took the right kind of build.

You won't find me disagreeing, my point is that between the two, GK/=I= 'need' it a bit more. Not to say Dark Eldar doesn't, but if it came down to it Daemonhunters are routinely found at the bottom of the competitive totem pole.

Kanluwen wrote:I'm very disturbed seeing ork smilies next to a clearly wet Asian female.

What do you mean, her hair looks perfectly dr-oh!