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the number of wounds caused is the number of wounds for Combat res, not the number of wounds removed.

if i ID a Carnifex and iam in Combat with some gaunts as well i only get the 1 wound that ID'd the Fex, not the number of wounds the Fex has to begin with.

Grey Templar wrote:the number of wounds caused is the number of wounds for Combat res, not the number of wounds removed.

if i ID a Carnifex and iam in Combat with some gaunts as well i only get the 1 wound that ID'd the Fex, not the number of wounds the Fex has to begin with.

Right thats what i thought...hence why i asked...i couldnt understand why IDing a 2 wound nob would count as 2 wounds for res when you still only did 1 wound to him...

As far as I was aware if it was a one shot ID then yes it is down to one wound in Res, but don't take my word for it as I have only been playing for 4 months.

Vindicators and Thunderfire Cannons are great against the greenskins.

Right thats what i thought...hence why i asked...i couldnt understand why IDing a 2 wound nob would count as 2 wounds for res when you still only did 1 wound to him...

You get "creds" for all wounds you inflict on the enemy, including all wounds from an ID. So if you hit four nobs with hammers and get one wound with claws, you end up with CR 9
- can't be bothered to check page nr, but it's probably under resolving combats

I didn't get very far, I just copy & pasted the vindicator origins!

@shake zoola
i think hes saying that if you smack a nob (or anything at all really) with a thunderhammer it dies instantly. So its one hit dealing two wounds. I havent played against orks too often, but from your other posts its sounding like your making almost a SM gunline so i would recommend a thunderfire cannon absolutely.

And with the risk of sounding redundant, maybe...a dreadnought to throw at any mobs that are getting close if you cant thin them out fast enough, an assault cannon will make short work of pretty much anything in the ork army that doesn't have "dred" in the name. In close combat i'm not sure if orks have any kind of grenades or whatnot to even kill a dreadnought, so i think just watch out for the occasional PK and maybe a huge choppa.

worst case scenario, a devastator squad with HB's can toss a lot of lead if you can fit the points in.

Shake man, read the rule book on pg. 39.

"Note that wounds that have been negated by saving throw or other special rules that have similar effects do not count, nor do wounds in excess of a models characteristic, only the wounds actually suffered by enemy models (including all of the Wounds lost by models that have suffered instant death). ....."

So if a SM captain has all his wounds but fails a save against a PF, then the other side gets 3 wounds for combat resolution.

anything Rapid Fire will be Really Useful....But make sure the orks get close enough to use Rapid Fire, but not too close, or they will make you more choppy....

Whirlwinds. Spam the hell out of whirlwinds and LR Redeemers and Crusaders. I use this against a horde eldar (don't ask) and they usually just wipe out 1-2 horde guardian squads a turn. Word.

Land raiders usually give orks a major headache, the orks have few answers for armour 14 all round. Sternguard can work as well, give the whole squad combi-flamers, and stick them in cover. First off your special ammo can out range him or deny any cover saves, then when he gets close 10 flamer templates in the face. Then charge the nob left over.