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Kroothawk wrote:Well, "Grey Knights" is one of my favorite BL novels, Sororitas do well in battle and there is even an interesting female Inquisitor character in it (not related to the Sororitas, before you ask ). Nice plot. Have fun.

BTW FW invented their own IG regiment, the Elysian Drop Troops, and they never won a single battle in FW books

FTW .

Here is a picture I found awhile ago

That pic's kinda 4chan /b/ or /tg/ trash... fish kneepad, slowpoke shoulderpad, the fact taht she's Suigintou from Rozen Maiden, the "fap not to the furry" quote on her right shin, "I want to be the little girl" on her robes, etc etc etc.

Kroothawk wrote:

I am not going to lie, that got me to seriously LoL.

Also, that picture of the "3+ save" sister that Warboss was talking about is badass, and with the exception of the feathers? on her shoulders, she still looks kinda sexy.

Not to stir the pot here melissia, but I don't think anyone has the right to complain about the design on the sister armor and clothes that arts them to anime or manga

Talk about not taking something seriously.... again, just my own tastes.

Nightsbane wrote:Not to stir the pot here melissia, but I don't think anyone has the right to complain about the design on the sister armor and clothes that arts them to anime or manga

Talk about not taking something seriously.... again, just my own tastes.

To be fair, just because they are on her photobucket doesn't mean that she drew them. I myself have plenty of pictures on mine I didn't draw.

Not a single image on my photobucket account I drew myself. I have done manipulations, recolorings, and other edits, but none of my actual art is my own. I like certain manga/anime (specific ones-- most of it I do not enjoy) for entirely different reasons than what causes me to enjoy 40k.

Melissia wrote:Not a single image on my photobucket account I drew myself. I have done manipulations, recolorings, and other edits, but none of my actual art is my own. I like certain manga/anime (specific ones-- most of it I do not enjoy) for entirely different reasons than what causes me to enjoy 40k.

understandable.

Just saying that I don't find manga or anime of warriors to make them look like 8 year old girls to be helping the cause of bruting them up.

While we are on the topic of art, does anyone know any good Chaos Space Marine art? I haven't really been able to find any online that I liked, so I was going to start a thread on it, but since this one is already here....

Nightsbane wrote:

Melissia wrote:Not a single image on my photobucket account I drew myself. I have done manipulations, recolorings, and other edits, but none of my actual art is my own. I like certain manga/anime (specific ones-- most of it I do not enjoy) for entirely different reasons than what causes me to enjoy 40k.

understandable.

Just saying that I don't find manga or anime of warriors to make them look like 8 year old girls to be helping the cause of bruting them up.

I don't agree with the idea of "bruting the up", so much as I'd like to make it more crusaderesque in appearance on the chestplate.

The link I gave that showed how I'd like the chestplate to be done was here. Basically a single curved plate, with enough protrusion to give the illusion of femininity while maintaining the knightly look. Below that, segmented plates would do fine, like the Marine armor. A single fleur de lys in the middle of the chestplate to top it off. Furthermore, something like this would fit better with the rest of the armor-- the boob-cups and corset are horribly mismatched with the limbs and helmet of the armor.

Melissia wrote:

Nightsbane wrote:

Melissia wrote:Not a single image on my photobucket account I drew myself. I have done manipulations, recolorings, and other edits, but none of my actual art is my own. I like certain manga/anime (specific ones-- most of it I do not enjoy) for entirely different reasons than what causes me to enjoy 40k.

understandable.

Just saying that I don't find manga or anime of warriors to make them look like 8 year old girls to be helping the cause of bruting them up.

I don't agree with the idea of "bruting the up", so much as I'd like to make it more crusaderesque in appearance on the chestplate.

The link I gave that showed how I'd like the chestplate to be done was here.

Not going to lie, put the Sisters' trademark Fluer De Lay on that, and it would look pretty bad ass.

Melissia wrote:

Nightsbane wrote:

Melissia wrote:Not a single image on my photobucket account I drew myself. I have done manipulations, recolorings, and other edits, but none of my actual art is my own. I like certain manga/anime (specific ones-- most of it I do not enjoy) for entirely different reasons than what causes me to enjoy 40k.

understandable.

Just saying that I don't find manga or anime of warriors to make them look like 8 year old girls to be helping the cause of bruting them up.

I don't agree with the idea of "bruting the up", so much as I'd like to make it more crusaderesque in appearance on the chestplate.

The link I gave that showed how I'd like the chestplate to be done was here. Basically a single curved plate, with enough protrusion to give the illusion of femininity while maintaining the knightly look. Below that, segmented plates would do fine, like the Marine armor. A single fleur de lys in the middle of the chestplate to top it off. Furthermore, something like this would fit better with the rest of the armor-- the boob-cups and corset are horribly mismatched with the limbs and helmet of the armor.

That seems much worse than current setup. The legs, midsection and arms and almost completely unprotected. It seems that your fixation with "boob cups" is hindering you from seeing how much more it covers on many models. As an aside, historical exapmles of female plate (though VERY rare) had "boobcups" because of the way armor was tailored to the wearer to maximize battle potential.

Please read my post and don't just look at the pretty picture, kthxbai.


edit: Now that the wave of annoyance has passed through me at your inability to actually read the entire post instead of just a single section, please note that I specifically stated that I was indicating the CHEST portion of that picture only, and that I have specifically stated that I actually LIKE the other parts of the Sisters armor.

Furthermore, I actually think this chestplate would fit BETTER with the rest of Sororitas armor than the boob-cups and corset. They'd look like Knights Templar of the Holy Crusades rather than bondage sluts. The corset and boob-cups are incongruous when you look at the armor as a whole, they just don't fit in with the gauntlets, pauldrons, helmet, greaves, and boots.

What do you dakkaites think about this kind of armour?



The mini is Finari, female crusader, 54mm, by Reaper.

I don't, I never particularly liked Reaper's female minis and usually am inclined to ignore that they exist

Melissia wrote:Please read my post and don't just look at the pretty picture, kthxbai.


edit: Now that the wave of annoyance has passed through me at your inability to actually read the entire post instead of just a single section, please note that I specifically stated that I was indicating the CHEST portion of that picture only, and that I have specifically stated that I actually LIKE the other parts of the Sisters armor.

Furthermore, I actually think this chestplate would fit BETTER with the rest of Sororitas armor than the boob-cups and corset. They'd look like Knights Templar of the Holy Crusades rather than bondage sluts. The corset and boob-cups are incongruous when you look at the armor as a whole, they just don't fit in with the gauntlets, pauldrons, helmet, greaves, and boots.

Actually, while you recommended decorations you did not ever specifically mention added arm, leg and mid section plates. I did and do read your posts to entirety. If you had read all of mine you would have read that it is actually "boob cups" that is more realistic and protective than male plate on a female. It does not quite have to be so obtuse, but yes need to be form fit to the female.

At this point I have to assume this is more anger about feeling like the females are more sexed up than you would like, than considering protection.

Nightsbane wrote:it is actually "boob cups" that is more realistic and protective than male plate on a female.

No, it's not. The shape basically just funnels a bullet into the center of the chest.


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Commercial body armor, in male and female styles (though the female style has the groin protection tucked in her pants, so it's a bit misleading). Notice that they do not use boob-cups. They use a single curve in both cases. The reason for this is exactly as I said-- boob-cups would cause the bullet to be funneled into the middle of the chest, while having an overall round shape would cause it to be more likely to simply deflect off of the armor.

However Melissia, Sisters wear power armour, which is meant to be impervious to small-arms fire as is.

Not that boob-cups aren't stupid but the general idea must've been that if it was able to penetrate power armour then the general shape must not matter much.

You're missing an awesome work of art. Here it is:

You want awesome art? I give you awesome art >



(I'm fairly sure this is one ^)





Muju is the artist, and he has a page on deviantart.

Been looking through my HD and found a couple of pics (in my lulz folder)






Even I have some kind of morality and respect as such the next pic shoud NOT be viewed by people who are easily offended, extremist feminists and possibly SoB Fanatics.


You have been warned if you still want to see the pic check the link below.

May the Emperor guard your soul...


http://i46.tinypic.com/2i1grrr.jpg

Melissia wrote:

Nightsbane wrote:it is actually "boob cups" that is more realistic and protective than male plate on a female.

No, it's not. The shape basically just funnels a bullet into the center of the chest.


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Commercial body armor, in male and female styles (though the female style has the groin protection tucked in her pants, so it's a bit misleading). Notice that they do not use boob-cups. They use a single curve in both cases. The reason for this is exactly as I said-- boob-cups would cause the bullet to be funneled into the middle of the chest, while having an overall round shape would cause it to be more likely to simply deflect off of the armor.

You still just don't seem to get it, and for all of your rather rude assumptions about my reading ability have failed to read what I said. I said that form fitted armor is authentic to known (though rare) instances of female PLATE. We aren't talking about modern NYPD gear, but PLATE. This was also referenced again by you asking for crusader styled armor. The fact is that PLATE has to be form fitted to be the most effective, meaning that their will be breast shapes in the armor.

and I'm sorry, but saying "boob cups" funnel bullets into the chest is flat out false. It is a horrid assumption of ballistics that has no sound science behind it. Bullets are not funneled, they penetrate, ricochet, or glance. If the metal is strong enough to not be penetrated, thus taking the primary force of the blow, it is a nigh impossibility that it will penetrate another part of armor with even less force behind the projectile. This is even throwing out the near impossible feat of bullets "funneling" as you claimed, but in a pretend world where they would, they would not have sufficient force to penetrate at a lesser speed after failing to penetrate the original entry point.

TLDR version: What you have claimed is not possible under any realm of science or science fiction under any even minimal adherence to physics.

That is not true. You don't need breast 'plates' in armor they'll smoosh down fine into a more logical 'plate' like king Henry VIII of englands, which makes a convex shaped, almost conical centered breastplate in order to fend off direct strikes, making it far more efficient for deflecting direct blows by glancing them off to one side or the other. If his gut could fit in that armor, I'm pretty sure the spacenun's hootahs could fit.

My thought: they rank almost up there with penitent S&M chick, those scanty eviscerator things, DE wyches and slaanesh... hot lobster things.... as far as fetishist 13 yr old fantasies and an embarrassment to the game.

If your going to be shameless space skanks I say you may as well go all the way with it. maybe they can get some power push-up-bras or something. The laws of physics need not apply in the mind of a 12 year old who just likes girls and doesn't figure out why until he gets into 40k and hot chicks in laser gear suddenly bridge the gap between childhood and a poorly concieved boner. I guess we all have our own ways of dealing with puberty. Mine was playing DnD where chicks wear chainmail bikinis and such, or princess leia in a slave girl outfit.
I wish the dudes at GW would get rid of the hot-chick-with-lasers fetish and just get down to everything being ugly, brutal, and badass.

In the Grim Darkness of the future, chicks should stay home and paint their boyfriend's figures while they go to war on their one night off. Whoever invented sororitas armor (in 40k universe) was wasting a lot of resources....

lemme see.. we could make power armor for an 8 foot 500 pound genetically altered badass... or we could make a form fitted version that requires far more technology knowhow due to its diminished size... but we make it for this lil' space nun wanna-be because it gives us boners...

Well nobody ever said the techpriests of mars had girlfriends either.

maybe I'm a misogynist. Maybe I just hate skankiness.


I liked the wounded girl on the floor pic though, it was much more classy than the 'hooker boots' type thing, and not so embarassing to show off later in life.

Are we really discussing the functionality of 40k equipment?

a couple of stills from the movie Shroud. Hmm looks like a woman in plate armor....

Nightsbane: Damn man. It's seven thirty in the morning here, I don't think I can respond seriously to that post... cool it, okay? I never intended to insult you, I just get annoyed occasionally myself.

Kettu wrote:However Melissia, Sisters wear power armour, which is meant to be impervious to small-arms fire as is.

Not that boob-cups aren't stupid but the general idea must've been that if it was able to penetrate power armour then the general shape must not matter much.

However, having boob-cups presents a structural weakness that doesn't need to be there.

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Excuse me, but I'd like interject about the whole boob cup thing in armour....where would get such an idea? How would the mold this in the middle ages? Do you suggest each blacksmith went through the time and effort to make breasts on the armour? Do you know how silly that sounds? The slightest mistake would leave the wearer uncomfortable. It makes sense that they would just use a normal breast plate and just make it slightly smaller or bigger depending on the woman and have that margin of error.

The only reasons that SoB are like that is most likely because Games Workshop wanted to include sex appeal somehow o_O Otherwise a plate like the Marines would've made more sense...cut down to a feminine figure...I guess?

tldr; You're suggesting that an armourer measure and craft every woman's figure exactly when they didn't even do that for men?

http://www.jetrefilm.com/shroud1_lo-res.jpg

THAT pic is kinda how I want Sisters' chest armor to look, only with a large Fleur de Lys on the center. Keep the shoulders, arms, legs, helmet, etc, but add something like this, a bit more stylized perhaps, but like that.