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I wish I still had my BF1942 discs D;

Ditto. I -hate- the new CoD style single player. EA completely ruined the BF series with BC/BC2 (oddly enough, I'm actually suprised about them ruining a game this time...) just because they wanted it to be a CoD clone. They shouldn't have been given the BF name, IMHO. They're -nothing- like BF games.

I hope they bring back the massive fragfest games that made up BF1942 through 2042, or else this is another series that won't be getting any more of my cash on account of EA's shennanigans and shortcomings :(

I'd love to see a new 40k FPS (as I was one of the select few who enjoyed Fire Warrior). I'd like the emphasis to be on squad based combat though- the idea of scores of individual guardsmen running about Battlefront 2 style annoys me. They aren't individuals, they act as a squad! I don't know how you'd manage the AI, but the Killzone Franchise managed small scale squad combat reasonably well.

CadianXV wrote:I'd love to see a new 40k FPS (as I was one of the select few who enjoyed Fire Warrior). I'd like the emphasis to be on squad based combat though- the idea of scores of individual guardsmen running about Battlefront 2 style annoys me. They aren't individuals, they act as a squad! I don't know how you'd manage the AI, but the Killzone Franchise managed small scale squad combat reasonably well.

Well, mind you in Battlefront 2 you had the ability to create squads in a battle. So in a way, there was Squad play.

Really? Missed that. How?

Well on the PS2 version, the Directional Pad/Arrow Buttons were squad commands and you just targetted a member of your squad, then pressed a button to give a command.

Unless you meant Battlefield 2 but it came out "Battlefront 2"

Nope, meant Star wars Battlefront 2. Well I'll Be fethed. You learn something new every day. Cheers mate!

CadianXV wrote:Nope, meant Star wars Battlefront 2. Well I'll Be fethed. You learn something new every day. Cheers mate!

You know, I still have that game sitting on my shelf at home...

Suddenly I feel compelled to play it

smiling Assassin wrote:I see what you mean but surely... if you have a mod already, what more would a full game add?

Karon wrote:Basically, they say that they needed a ton of soundwork done, and a coder to do some work, and it was 95% finished, but they never got any help, so they abandoned it, and merged with Unreal Tournament 40K (which I downloaded, and frankly, its gak)

That, dumbass.

Why does everyone hate Fire Warrior? It's a friggin awesome game! (Although I play do play Tau, so yeah)

I think its sad that when discussing a new game people just suggest they copy older ones. For shame. A slight divergence is required for a successful game IMO.

DoW 1 was quite divergence from the standard RTS of its time. IIRC anyway.

So an FPS could be something interesting.

For example last space marine of the celestial lions loses his mind and makes an oath for vengeance. Killing the Inquisition and do his best to sidestep other marine and guard forces. Sometimes unsuccessfully. Gameplay would be about the alpha strike attacks and ambush defense. Attrition would be death.

Mechanics would be simple. First person, hard cover and a bolter that actually fired rocket propelled grenades. Instead of lame bullets they always do.

Just an example. Im sure a whole team could actually come up with something interesting. But I'd buy that game.

Also Team Fortress 2 sux!

I'd love a game based on the Assasin temples, stealth action ftw. Be it first of Third person.

Shaman wrote:Also Team Fortress 2 sux!

HERESY!

Shaman wrote:

Also Team Fortress 2 sux!

LOL, Agreed, Team Fortress 2 sux massively. in fact I'm not really all that impressed with Half Life 2 either. 1 was great but 2, to me, felt really bland and like something should be happening. I only played it to the end because I kept thinking it can't be pants Half Life 1 was great, but no still pretty poo, and the episodes have been cack as well the engine looks really dated and the gameplay, in my opinion is rubbish.

I'm trying to figure out if your entire post was sarcasm or not...

GalacticDefender wrote:Why does everyone hate Fire Warrior? It's a friggin awesome game! (Although I play do play Tau, so yeah)

not sure - I really like it - both the game and the novel - Must get it back on the console later

but then I can't play most other FPS.............

The reason people hate Fire Warrior is because it is the only first person shooter released in the last ten years where you actually have to go around collecting colored keys to open corresponding doors, Wolfenstein 3D style.

That, and the production values were awful, the AI was the most atrocious thing I've ever seen, hit detection was a mess, and so on. It's honestly on my "Top 10 Worst Games I've Ever Played" list. You have to be a hardcore Warhammer 40k fan to get any enjoyment out of that travesty.

You left out balance - I've seen drunks with more of it. Weapons and enemies were both so unbalanced it was laughable.

Thats, true I can recall coming up against 1 marine who was positioned in a corridor in such a way that it was impossible to approach him without getting shot in the face before you could retaliate. Took me god only know's how many attempts to get past him. I still don't know why I kept playing and completed Fire Warrior. Theres a big chunk of my life I'm not getting back.

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revackey wrote:Definitely not a CoD themed shooter

That wouldn't be that bad, Guardsman style...

that would be amazing. unlock all the weapons, choose what weapons you want, perks, etc....it would be great....

metallifan wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:

revackey wrote:Definitely not a CoD themed shooter

That wouldn't be that bad, Guardsman style...

No, no. We want a game that's decent, balanced, and not full of hackers and bugs.

In short, nothing like a CoD game.

well if IW had dedicated servers where users could police them, and they would use PunkBuster instead of VAC and it's gak, these would be a non issue....

and besides hacks and server problems, what bugs are you speaking of? If you expect to play a game that is released bug free and has over 1000000 players, then go play chess.

Soladrin wrote:what's bad about dying fast? I like the challenge and it would be appropriate for guardsmen. CoD's gak though

no, it isnt. pvp may have it's issues, but the single player is amazing....and unlike the massive throngs of 12 year olds that think games are made SOLELY for multiplayer, I am a fan of story-driven, first person FPS.

IG_urban wrote:well if IW had dedicated servers where users could police them, and they would use PunkBuster instead of VAC and it's gak, these would be a non issue....

But they don't, so SoL there.

and besides hacks and server problems, what bugs are you speaking of?

Wall bugs (Getting stuck in some walls if you walk too close), Colour glitches even on the lowest settings, and Enemies getting stuck in the ground to name a few. Mind you I stopped playing after the first two months on account of feeling ripped off for my cash, so I'm not sure how many of these have been fixed in updates.

If you expect to play a game that is released bug free and has over 1000000 players, then go play chess.

Well aren't you adorable and funny.

I don't expect it to be bug free, but when I spend $70 on a new release, I expect it to turn out better than the broken bargain-bin quality stuff that Bethesda puts out.

sorry brotatochips, but it's a good game. you can hate it, that is your opinion. But the modeling and textured are breathtaking, the physics engine is superb, the storyline is better than a lot of stuff Hollywood has put out in a war movie in a long time, the voice acting is excellent, and the music is classic. don't be ignorant.


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metallifan wrote:

IG_urban wrote:well if IW had dedicated servers where users could police them, and they would use PunkBuster instead of VAC and it's gak, these would be a non issue....

But they don't, so SoL there.

that is only the multiplayer. I still play everyday...if you don't have boonies-ass-out-cousin-lover internet, it's fine, and if you don't like hackers, like me, you join a no cheat group, hundreds of people who are online all the time that have good connecs and play with honour...that too much work for you?

metallifan wrote:Wall bugs (Getting stuck in some walls if you walk too close), Colour glitches even on the lowest settings, and Enemies getting stuck in the ground to name a few. Mind you I stopped playing after the first two months on account of feeling ripped off for my cash, so I'm not sure how many of these have been fixed in updates.

Color glitches? Get a new GFX card? ANY game with a physics engine is going to have wall glitches and enemies being stuck...dude, look at Crysis, one of the greatest FPS ever made, and it happens all of the time....also, your computer must suck, because I rarely have that happen.......go shoot people in real life if you don't want to deal with that. As for right now, the way we code physics engines, so that they are as random and sudden as real life, these things will happen, because its not real life.

metallifan wrote:Well aren't you adorable and funny.

if you say so.

metallifan wrote:I don't expect it to be bug free, but when I spend $70 on a new release, I expect it to turn out better than the broken bargain-bin quality stuff that Bethesda puts out.

wow dude...

IG_urban wrote:sorry brotatochips, but it's a good game. you can hate it, that is your opinion.

No way brosapien. I could use the same arguement to counter-claim you saying it's a good game.

But the modeling and textured are breathtaking, the physics engine is superb, the storyline is better than a lot of stuff Hollywood has put out in a war movie in a long time, the voice acting is excellent, and the music is classic.

The Textures aren't bad, but FEAR had the same texture quality on it's character models and it's years older. Environments aren't bad, but I've got some Indie games that still manage to look better. Physics are pretty much the same as most other FPS games out right now. I'm no audiophile, so I'd say the same about the sound and voice acting (I turn music off on my games. Find it annoying). In other words, non-gameplay elements are pretty average. The gameplay itself was pretty bad for the reasons I already stated, but that's done and covered.

The story, however, is even worse than the bugs and broken-ness. It starts out fine. But then it goes from good to "Huh?" to "Seriously?" to "What the F*** am I playing?" to "Really? I mean... Really? Man, should've just stuck with MP."

don't be ignorant

Your insults betray your fanboyism. Try not to let that cloud your vision if you're going to debate something.

what do you know about computer textures and modeling?.....

my buddy works for Monolith....sorry...FEAR did not have modeling and textures to match this...you fail.

the sound is fantastic, sorry. Go research what went into the sound design of this game... Hanz Zimmer composed the theme, Lance Henriksen, Keith David, Barry Pepper, and Kevin McKidd provided leading voices....lol your silly...

the story is amazing...your Canadian...most cool stuff is lost on you, I know.


you COULD use the same argument...exept COD:MW2 gets 9-10/10 or 4-4half /5 stars in the majority of it's reviews....


.....sounding a little bit more like your whiny opinion rather than anything else....






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and I still think it's mainly do to your gak computer...if you are referring to the console versions, then I don't blame you....consoles are fething gak. (I really wish I could have said those last two words without the censor...that is how much I dislike consoles...)

IG_urban wrote:what do you know about computer textures and modeling?.....

my buddy works for Monolith....sorry...FEAR did not have modeling and textures to match this...you fail.

the sound is fantastic, sorry. Go research what went into the sound design of this game... Hanz Zimmer composed the theme, Lance Henriksen, Keith David, Barry Pepper, and Kevin McKidd provided leading voices....lol your silly...

the story is amazing...your Canadian...most cool stuff is lost on you, I know.


you COULD use the same argument...exept COD:MW2 gets 9-10/10 or 4-4half /5 stars in the majority of it's reviews....


.....sounding a little bit more like your whiny opinion rather than anything else....






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and I still think it's mainly do to your gak computer...if you are referring to the console versions, then I don't blame you....consoles are fething gak. (I really wish I could have said those last two words without the censor...that is how much I dislike consoles...)

Oh Fanboy rage, you never cease to amuse me. Thanks for brightening my day!

IG_urban wrote:the sound is fantastic, sorry. Go research what went into the sound design of this game... Hanz Zimmer composed the theme, Lance Henriksen, Keith David, Barry Pepper, and Kevin McKidd provided leading voices....lol your silly...

the story is amazing...your Canadian...most cool stuff is lost on you, I know.

First part: A burnt steak made by Boby Flay will still taste like burnt steak..... Not that I even know who those people are.

Second part: I KNOW you did not just insult Wolverine....

T'would be sweet.

I like how in spec ops the second player gets the voice of 50 cent. Awesome voice acting! rarararra.

to say that the sound design and voice acting of that game are bad is just plain stupid.

I hate avatar but I am not going to say its a bad movie....I hate it more than almost any other movie...the CG is still great, the acting is better than most movies, and the environments are breathtaking...still hate it...


and metallifan, I will shoot my fan boy rage goo all over your face anytime you need a day brightener.

I just can't stand it when people say something is bad because they don't like it....

yeah, I do say avatar sucks, but in a debate I will always lose, and I have....


MW2 is fantastic from ALMOST every angle....sorry

IG_urban wrote:
and metallifan, I will shoot my fan boy rage goo all over your face anytime you need a day brightener.

Seriously dude WTF was that?

A battlefield styled game for me, please. I mean, Battlefield 2142 had drop pods.

It should be well-balanced by teamwork advantages, movement speed and variable respawn times rather than by forcing 5 Space Marines to face 25 IG for a fair fight.