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DarknessEternal wrote:

scubasteve04 wrote:
Even with that math, its still a dead-on draw. With Thunderhammer, those killing blows are gonna be done to each other at the same time.

Your question:

Can you think of a list of single model non-apoc MCs/ICs/SCs/walkers that can take him out in 1 on 1 combat? I can think of a few but not many:

You did not state anyone had to live, only that Lysander die.

Touché

Abaddan any day of the week.

Of course, if you wanted to be practical about it, you'd just go for 30 slugga boyz.

Which is 30-1

You said one on one right...Shas'el with Plasma/Fusion. It's one on one only from 12".

Sorry that wasn't clear, what I meant by being practical was leaving off the arbitrary restrictions.

MekanobSamael wrote:Abaddan any day of the week.

Of course, if you wanted to be practical about it, you'd just go for 30 slugga boyz.

Actually, I'd go for shoota boyz. Much more effective in the long run.

Its quite obvious that 30 boys will swarm Lysander, as will other things. That is not the point of the thread.

We are talking 1 on 1 single combat.

Oscarius wrote:Which is 30-1

You said one on one right...Shas'el with Plasma/Fusion. It's one on one only from 12".

Shas'o with gun drones....


Broodlord if he gets off the stun psychic power.

scubasteve04 wrote:Its quite obvious that 30 boys will swarm Lysander, as will other things. That is not the point of the thread.

We are talking 1 on 1 single combat.

But that's not how you kill Lysander. The entire point of the guy is that he can punch out damn near anything in 1 on 1. You have to swarm the bastard.

Autarch with jetbike and any gun.

Easy... just takes 923857029347593287 turns.

Never gets into combat.

Logan Grimnar?
Always hitting on a 3+
2+ and a 4++ can use an Frost weapon or simply strike last with a power fist.
Has 4 attacks normally 5 on charge and can boost it to 6 with Living Legend.

Sanctjud wrote:Autarch with jetbike and any gun.

Easy... just takes 923857029347593287 turns.

Well played sir

scubasteve04 wrote:His biggest weaknesses are his moblity

Not with Shrike in the army Take Fleet rather than Stubborn for Chapter Tactics and you have a potential 18" charge with the ole' Captain.

is logan eternal warrior?

Logan should be EW.
As for Fleeting (shrike) Lysander....weren't we talking about one on ones..?

purplefood wrote:Logan Grimnar?

Only 3 wounds, he won't win.

Sanctjud wrote:As for Fleeting (shrike) Lysander....weren't we talking about one on ones..?

Star Gods would be the easiest 1 v. 1 I can imagine.

They would go first, with enough attacks to kill him. And he wouldn't get saves.

Haemonculus with a Hex Rifle. Oh you have EW? Too bad "Removed from Play" does not mean "Instant Death"

On a serious note the only 2 reliable sources i can think of would be Swarmlord or a GKGM.

Again... an Eldar character on a jetbike, with a 12" or more ranged weapon vs. a melee only monster stuck at infantry pace will win all the time.
^that is serious.

The Nightbringer looks like it can take down just about anything in close combat, although I'm not sure on Lysanders stats. Please don't punch me if I'm dead wrong.

Ztryder wrote:Haemonculus with a Hex Rifle. Oh you have EW? Too bad "Removed from Play" does not mean "Instant Death"

True, but the Hexrifle still has to hit and wound.

NB can take down Lysander in one round.
He just needs to hit and wound 4 times.
While lysander has to confront at fickle 4++...also NB has a ranged attack to plink at least once.

I believe a Grey Knight Grand Master would take him out pretty easily.

4 attacks (5 on charge), get 2 (2.5) hits, 1.67 (2.08) wounds. As long as he fails one of those 3++ saves, he's dead 92% of the time.

Chuck Norris.

Keeper of Secrets
Greater Daemon of Tzeentch (boon of mutation + jumppack wins)
Herald of Tzeentch (boon of mutation + jetbike)
Daemon Prince + MoT + Boon of Mutation + Wings
Anything with 12" movement and a ranged weapon

Chuck norris doesnt NEED 12" movement because Chuck Norris stands still and tells the world to move!

and roundhouse kick=infinity range anyway

It would be hard to get them one on one but Arjac Rockfist can do a number on Lysander.

5 attacks on the charge, hitting on 3s wounding on 2s rerolls on both too hit and to wound rolls. Not to mention one S10 BS5 shooting attack as well.

It will probably result in mutual death on the second round of combat.

chuck norris is s109

initiative 198748975635245


attacks 123981265918756193248716387456193847


no save

auto hitting

wounding on 1's


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stompydakka wrote:Chuck Norris.

stompydakka wrote:Chuck norris doesnt NEED 12" movement because Chuck Norris stands still and tells the world to move!

and roundhouse kick=infinity range anyway

stompydakka wrote:chuck norris is s109

initiative 198748975635245


attacks 123981265918756193248716387456193847


no save

auto hitting

wounding on 1's

*sigh*

WoW called, it wants its Barren chat back.

Why is Chuck Norris brought up in every "beat this" thread.
I honestly don't see the point in posting "OMG Chuuck Naarissh could beat any of those anyday with his roundhouse kick of doom (TM)".
It got old like....3-4 years ago.

i know, i know


just wanted a bit of fun.

on a serious note-

ghazz (on WAAAAAGHroids that is)
abaddon
swarmlord