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Nettik189 wrote:

Nulipuli2 wrote: im sorry to tell you this... but TFC cannot destroy any army in 2 turns, and they are not OP. Oh and the Achilles sports a TFC on its hull.

Just to prove a point if it sucks, why would they put it on the Achillles?

In 2 turns the TFC can easy destroy double its points. its all in how you use a model ie tremor a fast unit air burst low armour armys. surface detonation MEQ garuntee you will it will make its points up in models.

uuh:
to try and make up for the fact that the achilles in nigh-invincible to DE and eldar.
you tell me how you can cause 200pts worth of damage in 2 turns.
tremor a fast unit- that's just an annoyance, not a game-winning strategy.
air burst? that's gonna kill about 6 orks. wow.
surface? how is a AP pie plate gonna kill 3+ MEQs?

Im not a huge fan of the TFC, I do however have to drop either the terminators or a dreadnought but ide rather not drop both, i love the Ven Dread with its 2+ to hit twin linked lascannons and missle launcher so i have to say no to dropping the Venerable, lol, But in saying that i badly need transport for Lysander and ( If i use them ) The terminators.

If you are only hitting 6 orks with 4 shots you should just quit the game. and Str6 might not insta kil MEQ but it will hit it on 2's which with 4 shots easly can make any MEQ squad do a moral check if not wipe it. And tremor was made just for that to piss people off make squads do difficult terran checks

Orks can spread out, no one worries about failing dangerous terrain test, marines have a 3+ armour and can also spread out you know.

Ive decided to go for a total rehaul! The ironclad has to go.... the drop pod has to go.... the Damoles has to go and im only going to be fielding one Dreadnought......