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Eldar does make some sense. After all, they're in need of an update anyways, so why not?

As much as I would like to see the sisters playing a part, it makes a certain amount of business sense to keep blue in style. It cements the present image of 40k in visual presentation to the public at least, sort of a reinforcement of the product in people's heads. My money is on ultras in the box.

Phil Kelly told me personally that they redid the dark eldar only to keep people interested in buying there products. No new mini's ment no more sales increase remember GW is all about making money and when the assault from black reach came out it wasn't priced at what it is today price increase aswell.

Yeah, I'm going with Eldar and codex marines of some color.

Put me down and give me my marker.

SlaveToDorkness wrote:Yeah, I'm going with Eldar and codex marines of some color.

Put me down and give me my marker.

Black Templar VS Ulthe Eldar,

incomming grimdark 40k armies painted in grimdark color schemes :3

i think a sob vs necron would be nice but unrealistic. it would suit the rumored codex release for both armies though

If they said no xenos there wouldn't be Eldar in it either. Sisters and Chaos Marines, non-Ultramarines and Daemons, etc. There's a few possibilities.

The only reason I would not be surprised to see Sisters is that the current metals are practically snap together plastics. If they used the same style they did for the AoBR marines (bolters/wrists one peice, body another, back pack a third) they could make every single Sister on foot they currently have, and probably all the Seraphim that I can think of, with hardly a resculpt. Then if they rerelease Sisters they can sort of pretend they have plastic troops for them, and make other things, sort of like they did with Deff Copta's.

Now, bear in mind that EVERY other shred of reason in my mind tells me they won't have Sisters instead of marines in the starter set. Plus, my fanboy Sisters martyrdom complex tells me I will never, ever get a new codex. So there's that.

Brother SRM wrote:If they said no xenos there wouldn't be Eldar in it either. Sisters and Chaos Marines, non-Ultramarines and Daemons, etc. There's a few possibilities.

"Everything you've been told is a LIE!"

I like how it is but wish they would change it as i met a guy the other day an he was just starting so i asked him what he was painting and he said space maries and then i asked him what coulour scheme and he replied i paint the space marine one .
They are focusing to much on ultra marines and i paint the Death Scepters and nearly no ones heard of them and yet they are in the codex

SlaveToDorkness wrote:

Dont you think he looks like this?

Why not Dark Angels (the non-cxodex chapter in most need of an update) and the first of 4 Chaos sub-dexes...each Chaos God getting its own Dex and Units.

LunaHound wrote:

SlaveToDorkness wrote:

Dont you think he looks like this?

That may be why I wouldn't either of them.

LunaHound wrote:
Dont you think he looks like this?

No, because Jon Stewart is identifiably human, and not some horrible horse-woman hybrid like Sarah Jessica Parker.

Kettu wrote:And as i said, many forget that Blue is not the only colour.

Oh, I know there are other colours, I just don't think it makes any relevant difference. Anyone who would use the phrase "potentially earth-shattering" to refer to the contents of the next starter box is either not referring to Black Templars or is an idiot because, as you acknowledge, Space Marines of a different colour has been done before.

dkellyj wrote:chapter in most need of an update

Does not compute. Also does not fit with our only rumour source to date. Unless GW brings back rules for the Adeptus Mechanicus or Lost and the Damned, there are only four armies that actually fit the information available to us: Grey Knights, Sisters of Battle, Chaos Space Marines and Daemons.

Mark my words, 12:43AM CST, US time...

Next box set will be Ultramarines vs Ultramarines.

Remember to come back to this thread when 6E comes out to congratulate me on my Nostradamus-like precognition.

ProphetOfChaosAscendant wrote:I heard a rumor that the new 40k Starter set will feature Chaos and Witch Hunters.

I havent heard anything, but Witch Hunters just dont seem like a choice for the starter set. If I had to speculate on the next army's featured in the starter it would be Blood Angels (or some type of marine) and Dark Eldar.

Kettu wrote:http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2011/03/11/grey-knight-codex-limited-time-only/
Found it.

Ok the ”Bombshell” I really need to use better wording…

”By the end of the next Olympics we will be treated to 6th ed Warhammer 40k”
Now thaGrey Knight Codex Q&A Limited Time onlyt is something that people that follow GW trends have suspected for awhile. So really that is not that earth shattering. What makes 6thed potentially earth shattering is the version of AoBR we will get. For the first time in a long time neither Xenos nor the Warriors of Roboute Guilliman will be featured. Nor will the Sledgehammer of the Emperor be chosen to fill the starter box.

What that means for all of us… we shall have to wait and see.

And I got the quote wrong; Warriors of Robert, not Ultramar.

None the less, that still only describes one of over a 1000 artificial colours and flavours.

Dare I hope this means they might finally do an Adeptus Mechanicus official army? They meet all the requirements... Not Ultramarines (or any successor of them), not Imperial Guard, not Xenos... and with the fluff from the Necrons, there could be some really interesting infighting/special characters.... followers of the Dragon of Mars anyone?

*hopes and dreams, but does not think it likely*

ProphetOfChaosAscendant wrote:That was a made up rumor I'm trying to start not a question.

FTFY

I reckon it will be space wolves an necrons. Necrons get new stuff next year which coincides with the qoute "by the end of the next olympics". SW vs Necrons would be very interesting

Ultimately, if the rumour is true (no ultramarines, no IG and no xenos) you have the following options:

Imperium:
Grey Knights
Sisters
any one of 999 marine chapters (bear in mind it does not even have to be a variant codex, they could stick Salamanders, Imperial Fists, Whitescars, etc and it would still fit...)

Non-Imperium:
CSM
Daemons

Wild Card:
Something old (Lost and the Damned)
Something new (Adeptus Mechanicus)
Something borrowed (CSM legion as preview of forthcoming much-discussed legion codices)
Something blue... oh, wait, there's no smurfs



My vote for the Imperium is Dark Angels - they are iconic, fairly easy to paint (ergo good for a starter) and play basically as green smurfs unless you go for deathwing/ravenwing. Also, the 'hunt the fallen' thing will make for good scenarios for the starter box. It will allow GW to redo the DA 'dex or absorb them into the SM 'dex (which will then be the first release(s))

As for their enemies, I'm going out on a limb here and will say you will get a mix of CSM, Daemons and traitor guard as either a new LatD or A preview of the first legion 'dex. In either case they'll be Khorne-flavoured - CC oriented versus the shooty DA, red versus green (strong box-art) and with less special rules than the other powers generally require.


Having said all that, nothing would surprise me if these rumours turned out to be bunkum and we get another smurfs (TM) vs alien scum (TM) cop-out...

actually knowing GW its probally imperial fists vrs black templars. that way they can spam space marines, and sell MOAR MEHRINES!!!! plus they will probally include tons of ultra smurff pics in the rules and whatnot. but the cover will feature fists and templars.

yup.

not "ultra marines" and not "xenos"

yuuuuuuppppp

Unless they are introducing something like chaos guard or cultists then the options presented here only give demons as an adversary.
That would then make the Grey Knights marines a good fit as an opposing army. The thing with starter set marines is to let them be generic looking enough for any marine player to want to add them to their collection while making them unique enough for those marine players to want to get them. So Grey Knight looking marines maybe without the chapter icons on them.
AOBR marines were the BFM marines with extra bits and enlarged to fit in with the regular sets; would they do something similar again but with different details?

The Sisters of Battle aren't popular and will never be, even with an update. I think that the new boxed set will be Chaos Space Marines vs. Grey Knights. It won't be deamons, as you can see them as xenos. And deamins arent that parental good things. It could be another Space Marine army, but with the recent Grey Knight update, this sound very logically.

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What I would prefer is deamons vs inquisitor with retinue and some grey knightterminators :3. But the biggest change is Grey Knights vs some Chaos thing. Trust me.

thenoobbomb wrote:The Sisters of Battle aren't popular and will never be, even with an update.

lolwut? Quite a bold statement there.

Sidstyler wrote:

thenoobbomb wrote:The Sisters of Battle aren't popular and will never be, even with an update.

lolwut? Quite a bold statement there.

Yea just look at the new DE, noone is picking those up. /sarcasm

Could say the same about Grey Knights, too, and they just got an update.

Here an earlier thread on the topic, supposing Black Templar vs. Daemons:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/352734.page

Caminoman wrote:Thanks for the remarks. No, 30 dollars for the upgrade sprue, as in the box of Black Templar specific bits that used to be available in a Black Templar box set of marines, but now have been pieced out. All of this while Space Wolfs, Blood Angels, and Dark Angels all have their own chapter specific box sets.

But, and this goes for BA, DA and SW as well, you can assemble the units with just a vanilla squad box as the unit is still armed the same as the next.
Back when the BT first came out I had 500 pts of them for small games and I used only the vanilla boxes. Never had any problems.

Squats vs slaan ?
Grey knights vs sisters of battle ?
Blood angels having a pic nic with necrons ?
One faction of the adeptus administration against a other faction of the adeptus administration in the long forgotten war of the paperclip ?

If I had a wish list it would be ether tannith vs bloodpact or .......pre heresy imperial fists vs traitors ..... never gona happen lol

It may not be marines... they've done marines twice, they've updated the marine sprue from the initial multipart models (with the new command sprue and all that)

If they did plastic SoB it would have to be followed by multi-part kits.. I dont think GW are prepared to push that unless they're trying to get wimmenz involved instead of 12 year olds. 'Hello mrs Timmys mum - well he can have the chaos SPHESS MHARINES and you can have nuns with guns'