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No one expects the Spanish Inquisition!! Er... I mean Warboss!

withershadow wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:

Worglock wrote:
dear god no.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize 5mm extra would RUIN WARHAMS FOREVER!

It kind of would, actually, at least for fantasy. The larger bases would make those blocks enormous, and they can already be cramped once you're scratching 3000 points.

Please show me where I said anything about Fantasy.

Detective Warboss on the prowl, I like that.

While I personally love the idea of SOB vs. Chaos I don't see it happening.

SOB appeal to a very small minority of current players, and it would be a hard sell to convince little Johnny just getting into 40K that he should collect an army of girlie models when he can buy bald screaming dudes with guns instead...

krazynadechukr wrote:Yeah, I started a new account on dakka because I went about 2 years without gaming. Forgot old account name and password. After I posted that valk info, and several other rumours (most of which cam true), I got tired of all the nay sayers and slander towards me....Name calling, immaturity, and the like. I took a risk that this information might be taken in better stride from the Dakka folks....Looks like nothing has changed.

- One thing to learn about people on the internet is that they mask their weakness by attacking things. In this case, the weakness is that they really really really care about this topic. So that means they have to attack the rumor you're passing on.

- Another thing to learn about people on the internet is that the often draw no distinction between a person and that person's opinions, arguments, posts, or other contributions.

- The last thing to learn about people on the internet is they frequently get extremely defensive and forget how to distinguish between criticisms of their opinions, arguments, posts, or other contributions with criticisms of themselves.

Add all of these things up and you get a gak storm, which is something I think we would all rather avoid.

Now, let me take a moment to remind everyone of Rule Number One.

Folks, feel free to say that the rumor sounds fishy. But please be sure not to let this discussion slip into a series of personal attacks. PM me with questions and please use the modalert if you think someone is breaking rules rather than flaming them yourself. Thanks!

Just because....

I really doubt they would go ts as it would invalidate a great, great deal of plastic models... However, it would be awesome!

Even though i think OP is just wishlisting to what we want GW to do , the idea is not far fetched either.

The Dark Eldars even though not truescale , have improved TONS away from the usual GW Heroic scale with wtf proportions.

Take the new scourges for example , you would never imagine them to be sculpted by GW

krazynadechukr wrote:again, this was back in may 2008. different account name here on dakka.

Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and not believe you at all.

ph34r wrote:

krazynadechukr wrote:again, this was back in may 2008. different account name here on dakka.

Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and not believe you at all.

Please, don't feed it after midnight.

Platuan4th wrote:

Worglock wrote:
dear god no.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize 5mm extra would RUIN WARHAMS FOREVER!

well it kind of would because:

1) What do we do with all of the old based models? "I'm sorry, your base is too small to play Warhams now." " you you "

2) see #1

3) Really, go back to #1.

To use a terrible WoWism, "It's Fine, Lrn2Play".

Worglock wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:

Worglock wrote:
dear god no.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize 5mm extra would RUIN WARHAMS FOREVER!

well it kind of would because:

1) What do we do with all of the old based models? "I'm sorry, your base is too small to play Warhams now." " you you "

2) see #1

3) Really, go back to #1.

To use a terrible WoWism, "It's Fine, Lrn2Play".

If they use the Lipped based like all good companies do, your old 25mm bases will fit inside the lip ring. Pop Old Base on New Base. Takes all of 2 seconds.

Cyporiean wrote:

Worglock wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:

Worglock wrote:
dear god no.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize 5mm extra would RUIN WARHAMS FOREVER!

well it kind of would because:

1) What do we do with all of the old based models? "I'm sorry, your base is too small to play Warhams now." " you you "

2) see #1

3) Really, go back to #1.

To use a terrible WoWism, "It's Fine, Lrn2Play".

If they use the Lipped based like all good companies do, your old 25mm bases will fit inside the lip ring. Pop Old Base on New Base. Takes all of 2 seconds.

OMG your model is a base taller! Judge!

Cyporiean wrote:

Worglock wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:

Worglock wrote:
dear god no.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize 5mm extra would RUIN WARHAMS FOREVER!

well it kind of would because:

1) What do we do with all of the old based models? "I'm sorry, your base is too small to play Warhams now." " you you "

2) see #1

3) Really, go back to #1.

To use a terrible WoWism, "It's Fine, Lrn2Play".

If they use the Lipped based like all good companies do, your old 25mm bases will fit inside the lip ring. Pop Old Base on New Base. Takes all of 2 seconds.

Because that's not an unnecessary extra expense or an annoyance with TLOS. Not at all. Especially considering that we're positive that GW would do "what all good companies do."

Really, where does this stuff come from?

ts would be cool and i hope it will happen but i won't be suprised if it don't happen

kronk wrote:

I call BS on True Scale.

I could see them doing a larger, more truescale chaos set based on Khorne berserkers, claiming they are bigger and bulkier because they are Khorne, etc, etc.

Worglock wrote:

Cyporiean wrote:

Worglock wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:

Worglock wrote:
dear god no.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize 5mm extra would RUIN WARHAMS FOREVER!

well it kind of would because:

1) What do we do with all of the old based models? "I'm sorry, your base is too small to play Warhams now." " you you "

2) see #1

3) Really, go back to #1.

To use a terrible WoWism, "It's Fine, Lrn2Play".

If they use the Lipped based like all good companies do, your old 25mm bases will fit inside the lip ring. Pop Old Base on New Base. Takes all of 2 seconds.

Because that's not an unnecessary extra expense or an annoyance with TLOS. Not at all. Especially considering that we're positive that GW would do "what all good companies do."

Really, where does this stuff come from?

Easy fix:


Either get 'Deep Dish' bases, or just cut out the inner area of a round lip base.

I seem to remember Jes Goodwin saying that Marines weren't out of scale, it was everything else that was out of scale with them (ie. 'true-scale' Marines are a myth, as Marines are true scale, it's just human models are too big!).

Anyway, I can see them doing this as a starterbox, but not the 'true scale' bs.

If you ended up gluing all your current csm onto the new lipped 30ml bases then they would end up being the height of the new true scale models.
So your grievance that TLS rule would be corrupted would actually in the end not be correct.
Since your model is now as tall as new csm

Necros wrote:I don't see em doing this, just because they'd have to redo every other model in the line to make em fit.

However, I always did wish marines were bigger, and all on the bigger round bases like terminators are.. or a new base size that's a teeny bit larger than normal.

I'd agree they should be larger. As an average marine is between 9 and 10 feet, it doesn't look right scale-wise when you place them next to a 5-6 foot cadian\catachan.

That being said, making truescale anything sounds impossible, let alone unlikely. It's not going to happen.

Marines aren't 9-10 feet tall...

Ouze wrote:

Necros wrote:I don't see em doing this, just because they'd have to redo every other model in the line to make em fit.

However, I always did wish marines were bigger, and all on the bigger round bases like terminators are.. or a new base size that's a teeny bit larger than normal.

I'd agree they should be larger. As an average marine is between 9 and 10 feet, it doesn't look right scale-wise when you place them next to a 5-6 foot cadian\catachan.

That being said, making truescale anything sounds impossible, let alone unlikely. It's not going to happen.

7-8 feet. A marine is up to 8 feet in power armor.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Marines aren't 9-10 feet tall...

Unfortunately various GW/BL writers have some kind of e-marine envy/rage and have started increasing their size.

I still agree with the older fluff 7-8ft tall marines, with 9 being exceptionally tall/terminator sized marines.

And regards the bigger bases - the rules state you use the bases that a model is supplied with. If your "old school" CSM came on 25mm and the new "TS" CSM came on 30mm, you can happily play the game with a mixture of both base sizes and model types - so long as they are based on the same size bases as they were supplied with.

I personally don't think they will TS the marines (assuming they will be in the starter set). Perhaps they will have a "TS" or simply "larger than average" leader model or something.

Also @ OP - did you also lose your old email account or something? Because you can't make multiple accounts on the same email addressas far as I am aware.

Shelegelah wrote:Well, this is certainly an interesting rumor. I can't picture GW moving away from their current scale for just one line of miniatures, though.

I dunno, I can see it. Space Marines have just about everything they could ever need in plastic, and GW can only pull so many new units out of it's ass, so what do you do at that point when it seems the well has run dry? True scale Marines!

In the grim darkness of the grimdark everyone is grimly and extra foot taller... dark...

I've also heard that Marines are 9ft tall...

Just Dave wrote:I've also heard that Marines are 9ft tall...

I heard grey knights are 10 feet tall due to the lower gravity on Titan.

Apparently the life-sized Space Marines that GW has commissioned (that you see at Games Days and whatnot) were a bit under-sized when they were made. There was an error in the measurement specs (not in like Spinal Tap, but something along those lines) and they ended up being smaller overall than GW intended. This has given the mistaken impression of size that many people seem to have.

Whomever is advocating that they change the base sizes, please shut the feth up. They're more likely to sculpt a model of Calgar giving a [BALETED] to Eldrad in true scale than they are to change the base sizes to 30 or 35 mm.

kronk wrote:Whomever is advocating that they change the base sizes, please shut the feth up. They're more likely to sculpt a model of Calgar giving a [BALETED] to Eldrad in true scale than they are to change the base sizes to 30 or 35 mm.

Insults and hyperbole aside... why?

It's not like they would ever put Terminators on 40mm bas... erm... I mean it is not like they would ever put IH HW teams on 60mm bas... erm...

Never mind