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Manchu wrote:I have no interest in purchasing it myself and it's therefore hard for me to say what I would pay in order to give you a sense of its worth otherwise.

Ill agree completely. However, based on the apparent size and the good looking sculpting I could see it going for $200-$250 US.

i could see this being around the 15o range, though its not something i'd get, simple because i'd be forever whistling the theme song from final fantasy every time i looked at it-and i would never get it painted up to a proper level

bloody fanboys ! "i wouldnt as its not GW ! " lol
we should be looking at the sculpt quality/wght of resin/if its ltd ed or not to judge price

if you like it or it fits in with a game you play is how we judge its worth ...

We should be saying "at least it's not Forge World"

It would need to be as advertised - no pinning and no (or little) flash. No bending, straightening - and all the other things that keep me from buying Forge World.

If the above were true, yes, I'd shell out $150-200 for this model. It's gorgeous. It would make me finish my Chaos army and play it.

I would be usingit for RPG purposes. I'd easily pay $100.

$150-200 catagory would make me very wary of getting it to be used maybe once or twice.

Who makes it and what is their reputation for resin quality and delivering a good product?

I think that part of the product information is required before making a decision for buying it. Like forgeworld has a bad reputation for warped pieces and bad casts and I avoid buying things from them but other companies like bitspuldo and max mini create better casts with fewer issues so I might buy from them.

Sculpt looks neat. Could make a really cool bloodthirster if it was the right size and I actually ran one in my fantasy daemons army.

The no pinning thing I think is a little misleading imo...

Most models that big, even with the "built in pins" still require additional pinning on top of that to hold up decently...

I wouldnt pay over 100 for it though

still nothing on who it's actually by.

And since it's not GW and I play/paint/model exclusively at a GW store, this model is of no use to me.

$0. Unless it's fully assembled, painted etc. Then I'd give someone I know $50 for it just so they don't have to throw it away when they move.

Im not good at multi quoting so i'll just reply to them :'P

First of all , thanks for all the different feed backs , they are all important and correct in their own ways. So its a BIG help , thanks again Dakka.

There seems to be conflict with how to price this. Some user says worth goes up if usable in wargame , some worry if excessively handled it'll be worth less than a normal display piece.
What if , its sturdy and resilient enough to be used in war games while functioning as display? ( the base is almost like a movement tray , we dont just grab its limb and move it around xD )

Thanks for the feed back on the aesthetic issues , i agree it does not fit into warhammer. Its more of a display of sculpting skill and manufacturing results of Original Work . Which im glad people seem to agree of its quality.

Which company makes these? None. Its private ,commissioned , and produced. Which still gets boot leg recasts. Hence making me think twice if i want to commission a warhammer version into N.America to make profit ( hehe! )

Price to produce? sorry i cant discuss that , I still need to factor in commission cost to make one from scratch ( If for Warhammer usage ) , and pay them to produce each kit.

Again please do leave comments , feedback on what you think about it. Every response is valued info i need to consider.

If I had the skills to paint it I would easily pay $200.
Then I would start a chaos army, just so I could use it.
Very nice model.

I like it, I like it a lot. I'd probably be willing to drop $120-$130ish on it. If you could make it look a bit more "techy', some pipes and wires and whatnot, i'd liike it even more.

Probably 100$ ish, It really looks like something out of World Of Warcraft.

I would pay 200, easy. Maybe even 300.

BTW, where can one get that? I need it. NAOW.

I voted $0. Honestly something about it is immediately off-putting. The individual pieces look high quality. However, when they all come together it doesn't seem to flow in a way that is aesthetically pleasing IMHO.

The first thing jumping out: too much bling. This can be OK, but with all those extra parts... As others have said, there are too many limbs that are not posed in a way that makes sense. Combining over-bedazzled with too many limbs, I think it puts my aesthetic sense into sensory overload (not in a good way). Its like all sorts of various individual projects all got stuck together, without consideration of the overall end product. (Sorry, not meaning to be harsh. Trying to provide targeted critique, which I find to be more helpful!)

I love the idea of including the arms as choices. What about adding little hole-filler bits for those who want fewer than max number of arms? And of course for the wings, too, in case someone prefers to leave them off. If these options were available, I would consider $150-ish USD.

Assuming the casts are good, no warped pieces and minimal flash and I wanted a really cool thirster for my fantasy demons. I would pay about $150 maybe $200. I would wait for someone else to buy it first and give feedback on quality since no manufacturer with known reputation is making it.

I also am skeptical about the no pinning for large pieces. I pin all my large pieces like monsters and dragons as a force of habit.

I like it.

I like it alot.

BUT...

1. the thing NEEDS options, at any price you set. Just that batch of parts right there is asking me to get in on the resin and build about thre or four different monsters out of that one kit.

2. The Model isn't really for GW games. so... Don't spin it that way. might do for a couple of optional heads, arms, arm/shoulder options, weapons, types of demonic parts, ( I/E fire demons, char demons, reptilian, Cthuhlu tenticles, etc...) Basicly, I've seen a couple of Giant monster movies and THIS thing is very inspiring, but not in it's current form.

3. Demons.... hmmm. This little guy could do great in Anime Tactics, or in one of those Soul Caliber type anime games, like a minis version of Bleach, or Blood. Have you considered starting to sculpt up an Anime game in the same line of thinking as the samuri vs demon things? Get in a few Not Naruto, or Not Blood, or Not whatever, and I can see a great big !@#$ you to GW in the far eastern markets, and in the anime fanboys in the states.


All in all, it's a great sculpt, but your limiting your reach with the ability of the sculpter in just aiming at GW clonewars. Your ability has them in the dust, and you have opened yourself up a great big opening that has serious potential.


Great Job. All in all it is a great sculpt and has excellent potential!!!

That's one sweet looking miniature. I would pay 100-150 for it depending on strength of cast.

As an aside---it would look much better if you dropped two of the arms. It does seem a bit busy----and that's probably putting people off. Hard to find a center in that mass of limbs.

That's beautiful sculpting

Some of the negativity regarding the sculpt and style in this thread is truly disheartening. Whether or not it suits your own sensibilities or fits in with chaos marines, is it so hard to give the sculptor credit for such beautiful and consistent work on this large scale? You don't have to like it to respect it as a work of art.
It's sad to hear its getting bootleg copies made and the sculptor isn't making anything from them.

Manchu wrote:Wait, 150AUD fully painted? It costs much more than that to have a great painter do a terminator-sized model. I guess you're really, really offsetting what you don't like about the model.

You guessing correct.

The paintjob would need to account for the terrible pose and overall problems with scale and detail.

When I first saw it I thought 'Thats gotta be a garage kit'

Good to know I was right.

So no more then 8000 yen.

I would probably pay around $100 bucks. It's a lil bit too busy for my tastes and I ma not digging the three oddly straight arms. I still think its a beautiful piece though. Oddly enough I would go up to 150 if it were less busy. (could always deal with the arms myself lol)

I don't know about anyone else, but I'm a bit clueless about how much I'd be willing to pay because I don't know how that model compares to similar prices and scales. The most expensive model kit I've ever purchased was a Perfect Grade Zaku for about US$100, US$150 with shipping back when the dollar was better against the Yen. But that's a factory produced plastic kit.

So, it's probably an unfair comparison, but I'd have to have someone explain to me why more than US$100 is fair for a resin model before I'd want to pay more than that. How much does a model that big cost to make?

Edit: I got the 'Grade' of the model wrong before. I meant "1/60 Perfect", not just "Master" Grade. :(

It's not one that I would buy - either for myself or anyone I know.

Not requiring pinning is not really an issue. Have dremel, can pin pretty much anything with it.

It's too cluttered for the sake of being detailed.

Not keen on the style or the form. I prefer a cleaner aesthetic, myself.

solkan wrote:I don't know about anyone else, but I'm a bit clueless about how much I'd be willing to pay because I don't know how that model compares to similar prices and scales. The most expensive model kit I've ever purchased was a Master Grade Zaku for about US$100, US$150 with shipping back when the dollar was better against the Yen. But that's a factory produced plastic kit.

So, it's probably an unfair comparison, but I'd have to have someone explain to me why more than US$100 is fair for a resin model before I'd want to pay more than that. How much does a model that big cost to make?

How much does it cost to make? No where near the price. Hence why Forgeworld (the kings of the $100 resin model) will just send you a replacement kit instead of bothering with digging out a specific part or doing some form of return. It's cheaper to just ship a new one.

Worglock wrote:

solkan wrote:I don't know about anyone else, but I'm a bit clueless about how much I'd be willing to pay because I don't know how that model compares to similar prices and scales. The most expensive model kit I've ever purchased was a Master Grade Zaku for about US$100, US$150 with shipping back when the dollar was better against the Yen. But that's a factory produced plastic kit.

So, it's probably an unfair comparison, but I'd have to have someone explain to me why more than US$100 is fair for a resin model before I'd want to pay more than that. How much does a model that big cost to make?

How much does it cost to make? No where near the price. Hence why Forgeworld (the kings of the $100 resin model) will just send you a replacement kit instead of bothering with digging out a specific part or doing some form of return. It's cheaper to just ship a new one.

They no longer do this.

They forgot to include a whole sprue from the Inq Lord (the one with the familiars) and instead of sending a new one, they posted only the sprue required to complete the kit.

solkan wrote:I don't know about anyone else, but I'm a bit clueless about how much I'd be willing to pay because I don't know how that model compares to similar prices and scales. The most expensive model kit I've ever purchased was a Master Grade Zaku for about US$100, US$150 with shipping back when the dollar was better against the Yen. But that's a factory produced plastic kit.Yen

So, it's probably an unfair comparison, but I'd have to have someone explain to me why more than US$100 is fair for a resin model before I'd want to pay more than that. How much does a model that big cost to make?

Dude, you got seriously ripped off. An MG Zaku should only be around $50 USD before shipping at most, even when the Yen was stronger. They've always been around 3~4000 Yen.

I wouldn't buy it. It looks impressive, like a Final Fantasy boss, it's just not something that would show up on my radar.

For those of you who have been asking, the model is The Guard-Beast Barett by DAVYACE / PKKING

PKKING's blog can be found here.

I also have a few more images of the model that I believe are from a Taiwanese trade show.







I'm not sure how one would go about buying one of these or if they're even still in production. Though, if someone could contact PKKING directly then he would likely know the answers.


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I was just tuned into this post on Hobby Fanatics as well, it has some great images of the bare resin.

http://www.hobbyfanatics.com/index.php?/topic/29179-pkkings-beast/


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This one too, which has some other models and more importantly prices. Which for this model appears to be $236 or 165 Euros.

http://www.hobbyfanatics.com/index.php?/topic/27170-davyace-teams-works-for-sale/