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Smacks wrote:

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:I said "Perhaps." Just saying it is possible

I would have thought the absence of wings, pretty much confirms that they have different DNA. Which would put the possibility somewhere in the realms of zero. Also from the BA dex... "It is said no other Blood Angel Resembles Sanguinius so closely as does Corbulo" which would indicate Dante is less like Sanguinius than Corbulo... Which would be somewhat improbably if he were a clone of Sanguinius.

Yes, but here is the KEY trait, Dante as an affinity towards flight.

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:

Smacks wrote:

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:I said "Perhaps." Just saying it is possible

I would have thought the absence of wings, pretty much confirms that they have different DNA. Which would put the possibility somewhere in the realms of zero. Also from the BA dex... "It is said no other Blood Angel Resembles Sanguinius so closely as does Corbulo" which would indicate Dante is less like Sanguinius than Corbulo... Which would be somewhat improbably if he were a clone of Sanguinius.

Yes, but here is the KEY trait, Dante as an affinity towards flight.

And where's that from?

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:Yes, but here is the KEY trait, Dante as an affinity towards flight.

So does every Bloo...

You're right he must be a clone.

Smacks wrote:

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:Yes, but here is the KEY trait, Dante as an affinity towards flight.

So does every Bloo...

You're right he must be a clone.

How could you not see that!

Smacks wrote:

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:Yes, but here is the KEY trait, Dante as an affinity towards flight.

So does every Bloo...

You're right he must be a clone.

IT IS MY THEORY!!!... I didn't say it was sound or correct. -_,- I am aware that ALL Blood Angels like vertical combat.

The warp lost guy of the Imperial Fists remembered Dante as chapter master and he has been away for a millenia. I think Dante is ca 2000 years old. Certainly no clone or something like that of Sanguinius. He aint a psyker, after all. And cloning their Primarch would be against the feelings of the BA.


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Smacks wrote:

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:Yes, but here is the KEY trait, Dante as an affinity towards flight.

So does every Bloo...

You're right he must be a clone.

If so, then all Blood Angels are. They all like flying and have the Descents of Angels rule...

Nicholas wrote:Pretty sure the only reason The Emperor killed Horus was cause Sanguinus weakened him. Could be wrong, haven't gotten all the way through the heresy series yet. He also knew he would die which makes it even more noble

Sanguinius managed to put a single chink in Horus' armor, through which the Emperor was able to assault his essence and destroy him.

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:IT IS MY THEORY!!!... I didn't say it was sound or correct. -_,- I am aware that ALL Blood Angels like vertical combat.

In order for something to qualify as a theory, it has to have something supporting it. You have nothing backing this up, except that Abaddon is apparently a clone of Horus now (when did that happen)?

This is more just a random thought you had. It is neither sound nor correct, but you're welcome to have it.

sorry, but isn't Dante leading the chapter from something around 11 centuries ?

Anyway, if Ward fluff can be granted for good (and I think not) the old man is growing nuts, he thinks he'll be the one protecting the Imperium. He's surely loosing his personal war with the Black Rage, having visions of what Sanguinius destiny was. No more no less.

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also, there are no clones of the Primarchs. If they'd be, they would be higher, stronger and generally bigger than the normal marine counterparts.

Dante or Corbulo are no clones of Sanguinius and he is dead. As is Rogal Dorn so they won't be back.

I would kind of understand why anyone could think that Dante may be Sanguinius clone when considering his appearance.

Wearing that "deathmask of sanguinius" for over 1000 years would clearly have some impact on that poor guy's face...

However, as already stated:

No wings, no primarch...

There are no Primarch clones indeed. But Dante is known for keeping the black Rage in check... very well.
Remember that the Sang. Priest and Chaplains of the BA chapter test the candidate(s) for becoming Chapter Master on their ability on keeping the Black Rage in check, etc.

Why would there be a clone of a primarch ? Sanguinius would never be cloned, he knew horus would kill him anyway.

No i think he is dead for good

Sadly, he is.

Omegus wrote:

Nicholas wrote:Pretty sure the only reason The Emperor killed Horus was cause Sanguinus weakened him. Could be wrong, haven't gotten all the way through the heresy series yet. He also knew he would die which makes it even more noble

Sanguinius managed to put a single chink in Horus' armor, through which the Emperor was able to assault his essence and destroy him.

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:IT IS MY THEORY!!!... I didn't say it was sound or correct. -_,- I am aware that ALL Blood Angels like vertical combat.

In order for something to qualify as a theory, it has to have something supporting it. You have nothing backing this up, except that Abaddon is apparently a clone of Horus now (when did that happen)?

This is more just a random thought you had. It is neither sound nor correct, but you're welcome to have it.

actually if you read Tycho's decent into the black rage Sanguinus tore out Horus's throat while impaled on his lightning claws spiting out the words "I die but you die with me traitor"

Right, that's why Horus was able to mock him afterwards, and have a discussion with the Emperor during their duel.

Me thinks their hallucinations are guilty of a bit of editing to make their Primarch not look like such a big pussy.

TyraelVladinhurst wrote:

Omegus wrote:

Nicholas wrote:Pretty sure the only reason The Emperor killed Horus was cause Sanguinus weakened him. Could be wrong, haven't gotten all the way through the heresy series yet. He also knew he would die which makes it even more noble

Sanguinius managed to put a single chink in Horus' armor, through which the Emperor was able to assault his essence and destroy him.

Magtherion_Soulsaver wrote:IT IS MY THEORY!!!... I didn't say it was sound or correct. -_,- I am aware that ALL Blood Angels like vertical combat.

In order for something to qualify as a theory, it has to have something supporting it. You have nothing backing this up, except that Abaddon is apparently a clone of Horus now (when did that happen)?

This is more just a random thought you had. It is neither sound nor correct, but you're welcome to have it.

actually if you read Tycho's decent into the black rage Sanguinus tore out Horus's throat while impaled on his lightning claws spiting out the words "I die but you die with me traitor"

Sanguinius creating a chink in Horus' armour that will eventually be exploited by the emperor = ripping out his throat
Got it.

DEUS VULT wrote:
Sanguinius creating a chink in Horus' armour that will eventually be exploited by the emperor = ripping out his throat
Got it.

I suppose not having a throat may impede one's combat abilities....if only ever so slightly.

All this business about the BA having a light AND dark side...doesn't every SM army share that trait (minus our friends the Ultramarines)?

Space Wolves
Light = being noble rebellious warriors
Dark = being donkey-caves to EVERYONE

Dark Angels
Light = being noble angsty warriors
Dark = having half their chapter turn

Imperial Fists
Light = being noble stubborn warriors
Dark = being masochists

Raven Guard
Light = being noble sneaky warriors
Dark = creating mutated abominations during the heresy

This list could go on. Gives you a good idea of how "unique" (cringing as I type) the space marine chapters are.

Ultramarines' "dark" side is being ridiculous sticklers for the rules, even in the face of reality. Like exiling someone for using an unorthodox tactic, regardless of how successful it was.

Omegus wrote:Ultramarines' "dark" side is being ridiculous sticklers for the rules, even in the face of reality. Like exiling someone for using an unorthodox tactic, regardless of how successful it was.

I prefer to interpret it as unilaterally building a semi-autonomous empire within Imperial space or possibly an uncontrollable desire to be in control.

DEUS VULT wrote:
I prefer to interpret it as unilaterally building a semi-autonomous empire within Imperial space or possibly an uncontrollable desire to be in control.

Ah, there it is. Good point. Reminds me of the Dornian Heresy article (which come to think of it really put an interesting emphasis on the dark sides of all the founding chapters...)