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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/27 18:47:08
Subject: Re:Does a squad gain the benefits of DGs from an IC that joined it with DGs?
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As I pointed out above, the game regards the verb "assault" as the declaration and movement of a charge. After that point, "assault" is used in the past tense, and is replaced by words such as "engaged" and "attack(s)".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/27 18:48:04
Subject: Does a squad gain the benefits of DGs from an IC that joined it with DGs?
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Deranged Necron Destroyer
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Still no page number I see...
Alright, someone close this thread, the point is clear; the majority answered yes to the poll anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/27 18:51:15
Subject: Does a squad gain the benefits of DGs from an IC that joined it with DGs?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Still no page number for the "the" definition, I see.
Your argument is absurd, as you are reliant on the game being entirely internally defined. It isnt. Accept this and move on.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/27 18:55:51
Subject: Re:Does a squad gain the benefits of DGs from an IC that joined it with DGs?
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You're both being petty and childish, while providing no further insight on the subject.
I think I've provided a decent argument for how the game defines "assault" as the act of movement done at the beginning of the assault phase. The game doesn't need to be "entirely internally defined", but when it does define something, we should follow that. If the game defined "the" a particular way, we shouldn't use it any other way.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/27 18:56:30
Subject: Does a squad gain the benefits of DGs from an IC that joined it with DGs?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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"assaulting" is the key phrase, not "assault"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/06/27 19:02:25
Subject: Re:Does a squad gain the benefits of DGs from an IC that joined it with DGs?
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"Assaulting" is the present tense form of the verb. As I outlined above, the present tense takes place during the moves (as every moment after that it is referred to in the past tense).
"Assaulting" - this is done at the beginning of the phase, at which point no attacks are being resolved, so the IC is not separate.
"Assaulted" - this is any moment after the assault moves have been completed, including when attacks are resolved, as is evident by the rulebook using the past tense when calculating the number of attacks a model has. Models don't get a bonus attack because they are assaulting - they get one because they "assaulted" this turn.
So, DG kick in when models [are] "assaulting". "Assaulting" is done before attacks are resolved.
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