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BrookM wrote:

Popsicle wrote:Had to look into FFG, to discover they're behind Anima Tactics and Dust Warfare; two games I've admired in the past for their minaitures ranges.

FFG only publishes those games, they don't have a hand in the design of the actual models.

Which is a bit of a shame because a Star Wars version of Dust Tactics, with compatible models would be beyond cool

Happy dance!

Kroothawk wrote:Still mourning the death of the Star Wars collectible miniature game, such a nice source for SciFi miniatures.

Me too, it was also a fun little game though I spent WAY too much on it.

Kilkrazy wrote:What happened to the West End Games Star Wars RPG? That was a good game.

THat's still my favorite RPG engine ever. They lost the rights to Star Wars around the time the prequels came out and never really recovered. They used the d6 engine for a few games like Metabarons and Ghostbusters before trying to launch it as a generic rules system. They're gone now but there's a site somewhere trying to launch the d6 system as an open source game.

His Master's Voice wrote:Seems they'll be using illustrations for the card game. I'd personally prefer movie stills.

Illustrations makes it easier to be consistent, if they plan on covering all the movies, the cartoons, and the expanded universe stuff.


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Kilkrazy wrote:What happened to the West End Games Star Wars RPG? That was a good game.

West End imploded for so many reasons, from what I've heard. Apparently it started as an offshoot of a shoe company, and eventually the shoe company was pulling funds from WEG to stay alive. Licenses didn't help: Several Star Wars books were held up waiting for licensing approval for quite a while, which didn't help cash flow.

It's kind of sad. Definitely an important company in RPG history, but kind of faded away. A lot of 'big names' in tabletop RPG and now computer gaming worked for WEG at some point.

BrookM wrote:

kronk wrote:

BrookM wrote:Let's hope its not all Jedi.

I hope Nerf Herder is a Prestige Class.

Nerfs...gotta herd 'em all!

It's not a prestige until you're scruffy.

I'd rather kiss a Wookie

I was literally bouncing in my chair with excitement over X-Wing until I saw it was pre-painted. I suppose I should have expected that with a kid-friendly product like Star Wars, but now I doubt I will have anything to do with it at all.

As for WEG, I think it's very likely the most fun I have ever had with an table top RPG system. I actually tried to convert the a game using the cumbersome Palladium system over to it at one point. Everything went well except for stats for vehicles, which required more attention to detail than my teenage brain at the time was willing to give.

Kroothawk wrote:Still mourning the death of the Star Wars collectible miniature game, such a nice source for SciFi miniatures.

I'm pretty sure the plastic won't degrade for at least a decade. I still plan on using my clone wars era collection for the RPG.

JOHIRA wrote:I was literally bouncing in my chair with excitement over X-Wing until I saw it was pre-painted. I suppose I should have expected that with a kid-friendly product like Star Wars, but now I doubt I will have anything to do with it at all.

For what sounds like a stand-alone mini-game, it's not surprising. And doesn't actually mean that the minis won't be good, or re-paintable.

Although whether they're in any sort of scale to be useful for anything, or will include anything other than X-wings and Tie Fighters, we'll just have to wait and see.

warboss wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:Still mourning the death of the Star Wars collectible miniature game, such a nice source for SciFi miniatures.

I'm pretty sure the plastic won't degrade for at least a decade. I still plan on using my clone wars era collection for the RPG.

Yeah, we still play the minis game a fair bit here. And I've been slowly amassing Snowtroopers and Hoth Troopers (and have 5 AT-ATs in the shed) for an eventual Battle of Hoth using Apocalypse rules.

I'm hoping there are rules for creating your own pilots. The miniatures hobby needs more RPG elements.

Balance wrote:It's kind of sad. Definitely an important company in RPG history, but kind of faded away. A lot of 'big names' in tabletop RPG and now computer gaming worked for WEG at some point.

Not just RPG history, but Star Wars history as well. Much of the expanded universe owes its existance to WEG, who took lots of pre-production sketches of various odds and ends and turned them into part of a living, breathing universe. iirc, when Timothy Zahn was selected as the first author to write new Star Wars novels (the Thrawn trilogy), he was sent a bunch of WEG sourcebooks to help him out.

Very good news, thanks for sharing.

I, too, am hoping to see FFG try their hands at an RPG. The ruleset used in the WHF/40k range they've taken over from BI suffered from lots of "teething troubles" (most of whom were eliminated by various followup editions and errata in the following years) but is, at the very basis, very sound and (imho) superior to Wizard's d20 system. If the guys at FFG stick to what they have adopted from Black Industries, that'd be awesome.

Has anybody experiences with the other roleplaying games (Anima etc) they've put out? What could we possibly expect, given that for a potential SW RPG they'd be able to build it from the ground up again?

Well if the miniature game is one with miniatures that I can assemble and paint, then I will be happy. I have already did the preprinted thing from Wizards.

As for the D6 game that someone mentioned, well in the 90's a sister company that made shoes went bankrupt and took the WEG company down with it. Lucasfilm pulled their license and sold it to Wizards of the Coast. I still play the game every week though. It is truly the only set of old rules that I still use.

What if they had a BFG-style Star Wars game? With Clone Wars-era battles like the beginning of Ep3. I could definitely get into that.

ZacktheChaosChild wrote:What if they had a BFG-style Star Wars game? With Clone Wars-era battles like the beginning of Ep3. I could definitely get into that.

Damn, I like the sound of that!

Once, there actually was the Pocketmodel TCG which had you pit squadrons of self-assembled fighters and capital ships made of styrene against each other, but it wasn't as complex as BFG. Yet lots of fun to play. I still have a whole wing of TIE fighters, bombers and interceptors as well as a trio of ISDs with a frigate escort stored somewhere.

Lynata wrote:Has anybody experiences with the other roleplaying games (Anima etc) they've put out? What could we possibly expect, given that for a potential SW RPG they'd be able to build it from the ground up again?

FFG's RPGs thus far have all suffered from the issue that they were all created somewhere else. Everything Anima was created by a Spanish company. FFG has only been acting as a merchant for them in the US. WFRPG and the 40K RPGs are all based off of systems that were originally developed by GW.

So it's rather up in the air over what FFG will do, though I'd love to see them use an updated version of WEG's old d6 system.

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BrookM wrote:

Popsicle wrote:Had to look into FFG, to discover they're behind Anima Tactics and Dust Warfare; two games I've admired in the past for their minaitures ranges.

FFG only publishes those games, they don't have a hand in the design of the actual models.

Which is a bit of a shame because a Star Wars version of Dust Tactics, with compatible models would be beyond cool

actually they just announced a rule book for dust tactics called dust warfare, which is their first entrance into a dedicated miniature game.With that I can honestly say that any license given to FFG is in wonderful hands. I live only a few miles from the store so I get to talk to some of the designers of their games, and it is truly made by the fans of the material. granted I mostly speak for the warhammer 40k aspect, but after some of the conversations I have had, they are incredibly enthusiastic. If only certain other companies were like that....*ahem*

D6 star wars is still my favorite RPG system and i dont think anything will replace it. So simple and easy to learn so much room for players and GMs to be creative and imaginative.
I still have a huge zip lock bag full of micro machines star wars that we used for space battles.

Miss Dee wrote:

BrookM wrote:

kronk wrote:

BrookM wrote:Let's hope its not all Jedi.

I hope Nerf Herder is a Prestige Class.

Nerfs...gotta herd 'em all!

It's not a prestige until you're scruffy.

I'd rather kiss a Wookie

That can be arranged.

Heroic scale minis would be awsome, more so if they were multi-part plastic.

I doubt that's going to happen. Chances are mono-pose models as with Dust, or pre-paints, hopefully of the same quality as those they did for the Arkham Horror games.

Popsicle wrote:Hoping for an =I= scale game, with some neat models. That would be hot.

Try the Knight Models range of 70mm (or 30mm) Star Wars figures. As you're in the UK, I'll point you at Maelstrom Games as a vendor for them - and mention that there is a 20% off voucher you can use on them until midnight on Monday the 8th, code NEW-2011.

Balance wrote:

His Master's Voice wrote:Seems they'll be using illustrations for the card game. I'd personally prefer movie stills.

Illustrations makes it easier to be consistent, if they plan on covering all the movies, the cartoons, and the expanded universe stuff.

Fair point. I simply have fond memories of the original SW CCG made by Decipher. And it's a b*tch to make a good looking Darth Vader illo anyway...

ZacktheChaosChild wrote:What if they had a BFG-style Star Wars game? With Clone Wars-era battles like the beginning of Ep3. I could definitely get into that.

How about mixing the RPG and the mini game without making it to complicated?

Miss Dee wrote:

ZacktheChaosChild wrote:What if they had a BFG-style Star Wars game? With Clone Wars-era battles like the beginning of Ep3. I could definitely get into that.

How about mixing the RPG and the mini game without making it to complicated?

If they could figure out how to do that, sure.

Eumerin wrote:FFG's RPGs thus far have all suffered from the issue that they were all created somewhere else. Everything Anima was created by a Spanish company. FFG has only been acting as a merchant for them in the US. WFRPG and the 40K RPGs are all based off of systems that were originally developed by GW.

Admittedly, they've gone far beyond Black Industry's Dark Heresy. I've heard they've even been proactive about rebalancing core things like boltguns so they work better as the game has advanced.

That's cool that FFG got the license...but I don't think any new card game will replace the awesomeness that was the Star Wars CCG by Decipher.

Wonder it FFG will do Trek?

CaptKaruthors wrote:That's cool that FFG got the license...but I don't think any new card game will replace the awesomeness that was the Star Wars CCG by Decipher.

It's not really supposed to. It's cooperative and non-collectible.


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Miss Dee wrote:Wonder it FFG will do Trek?

Nope. That's Wizkids' bag, baby.

http://wizkidsgames.com/startrek/star-trek-expeditions/


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ZacktheChaosChild wrote:

Miss Dee wrote:

ZacktheChaosChild wrote:What if they had a BFG-style Star Wars game? With Clone Wars-era battles like the beginning of Ep3. I could definitely get into that.

How about mixing the RPG and the mini game without making it to complicated?

If they could figure out how to do that, sure.

It could be pretty simple if folks didn't expect a full-blown RPG. As I mentioned, being able to create your own X-Wing or Tie Fighter pilots as part of the core rules would be an excellent start.

No RPG?

With regard to Trek? Expeditions is as close as you'll currently get. I don't think we'll see much traction on a Trek RPG any time soon. Actually, there has never been too much traction on any such RPGs even at the height of Star Trek's popularity.

Never mind.