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Norsehawk wrote:no. A one off, game like this doesn't interest me. It looks like it has a whopping 1 ship per force in there, and as such, has limited gameplay. The fact that it is a fire and forget release means that there will be no future releases or expansions to the game. Which means that it's pretty much dead on release.

Man, I know what you mean. Lord forbid anyone ever release a Game In A Box! I got burned on Chess. Only six different pieces! Limited terrain! And NO EXPANSIONS!!!!!

If it was a proper "hobby" game with options for expansion, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. The box contents are good for the price, IMHO.

As a standalone board game it is less appealing. I would like to see the rules first, to see if it's challenging enough to compete with hardcore 2-player games such as Monsterpocalypse.

CptJake wrote:

Norsehawk wrote:no. A one off, game like this doesn't interest me. It looks like it has a whopping 1 ship per force in there, and as such, has limited gameplay. The fact that it is a fire and forget release means that there will be no future releases or expansions to the game. Which means that it's pretty much dead on release.

Man, I know what you mean. Lord forbid anyone ever release a Game In A Box! I got burned on Chess. Only six different pieces! Limited terrain! And NO EXPANSIONS!!!!!

Nice one!

I don't get trashing it simply because it is a stand alone game.

No way. A couple of models are okay, but it's just a boardgame by the looks of it. 10 ships, I assume each player gets one to control.

It's not a naval game like Man O' War or the heap of others that are currently on the market, and frankly those others will get continued support. At least GW are up front about the fact that this is a one-shot that will get nothing.

Price really doesn't seem that bad when you consider what comes in it. I am looking at $115 for something like 25 miniatures with some of them being very large and that is before you look at the board, the cards, and the rulebook. So from a cost perspective I think it is actually a pretty good value. My concern is the lack of support and expansions. I bought Space Hulk because I could use the minis for 40k. With this when I get tired of the game the minis are mostly worthless. So unfortunately I will probably not purchase this.

Who has trashed it for being a stand alone?
Norsehawk is perfectly entitled to his opinion.

Note the "It doesn't interest me" bit

I happen to agree from what I have seen.
Once the scenarios have been played through then what?
Play them all through again
and again
and again
Cue the Wagnerian horns it is starting to sound more like the Flying Dutchman.

You may disagree or be happy with that, but for me that ain't worth 70 smackers.
My chess and draughts set bought for £2 from the charity shop is a big difference.

It looks like a bad rehash of Man o' War, which I did play, but honestly that game kinda fell off after the "newness" faded. Plus it wasn't really a "model seller", once you had a fleet ... 4-6 ships.. you were done, and many of the ships were sold in 2 or 3 packs.

Like others have said, there are better games of this sort out there, at a better price.

I'll be getting 2

Interesting but no. NOt for a game that wont get much support, or dropped after a time. If I want a naval game I'd play Distopian wars.

I'm also getting one and hoping I get to play it before the anti-Dreadfleet mob puts me on the train to kampf Lala-land.

Yes I'll be buying it. Looks great, love to look of the models. Love board games as much as collectable games.

And no use waiting for a price drop, go check the prices of Space Hulk.

I preordered mine just after it appeared on the website. I like a good stand alone game and the mat could be good for other naval games as well.

It's the absence of proper fleets that puts me off. The coalition thing doesn't come off particularly with some of the evil races. We know the Vampires and Tomb Kings aren't really the best of pals.

I'm border line yes, but I think it's just because I suffer heavily from 'shiny-new-thing'itis. I'm interested but know nothing about the mechanics. Played BFG in the past but didn't get as much enjoyment from it, so if that's any indication I'd probably regret buying it. Add in to that the fact that I have NO mates that would game with me, even if they didn't have to buy anything and I think I'd be stupid for buying it.

But I'm still bloody tempted. Damn it I hate myself sometimes. Maybe GD will yield a better decision... hopefully I'll get to have a play and be swung then

i wouldnt mind panting it. but not for the price.

Didn't man o war already fail hard for GW? Interesting that they are at least trying to make somethig new.

Yeap, mine is ordered.

AustonT wrote:Didn't man o war already fail hard for GW? Interesting that they are at least trying to make somethig new.

It was 15-20 year ago, and the game mechanics seemingly totally different.

Howard you are not making me feel any younger.

So this is less like man o war and more like...umm BFG or what was that pirates game with the punch out cards and tiny dice.

No. The miniatures look very childish and the naval theme is better explored in other ranges.

AustonT wrote:Howard you are not making me feel any younger.

So this is less like man o war and more like...umm BFG or what was that pirates game with the punch out cards and tiny dice.

I don't know the rules mechanic for the new game... does anyone?

But there are only a few ships and lots of cards. It's definitely more of a board game than a tabletop wargame like BFG, Man O' War, or any of the naval games from Spartan or even the Warhammer Historical naval rules.

I think the Pirates game was just called Pirates! And I have a load of those I bought from the Works.

I didn't get Man O' War, I was younger then and had Space Hulk and later Necromunda and Gorkamorka. Man O' War, Epic, Dark Future sort of passed me by, but hey - you can't buy everything!

No orcs. No buy. Should have just redone the original Man O War. I would have jumped in then. Oh well, another fail as far as I am concerned.

I won't be getting it. If I want a pirate game I'll pick up Merchant's and Marauders. Both Ms&Ms and Dreadfleat are stand alone board games, and both come with quite a few models. Merchants (pirate game) comes with loads of cards and extra cardboard pieces. It's a great game, for over half the cost.

I'm pre-ordering Rage and Skyrim instead, and I'll still spend less than on DF, and have a much longer, much better playing experience.

Yep. It looks interesting, and I am a bit of a sucker for the whole get-it-before-it's-gone thing. I really like building narrative campaigns, and having an easy way to include some naval aspects to a WHFB campaign seems exciting.

I also like the idea of expanding the game myself.

Probably NOT. I'm tired of how much GW charges for their plastic, it's ridiculous. I mean c'mon, economic downturn? Average consumer has LESS money? We'll RAISE prices! $115 is out of line for what you get, MAYBE if I got 10-15 ships PER side & all the terrain & they'd actually planned on releasing more ships at a reasonable price, MAYBE. Honestly though, the whole limited run thing is just a way to get all the little kiddies to get their parents to buy it for them or to try & convince those of us who have a limited income to spend money we'd rather spend elsewhere due to it being "limited" which GW uses as an excuse to up the price.

I never pay retail for GW products anymore. Until now. I am really interested and I think I want it on release day. May even make it into my local GW to pick it up. (shudders)

Well my wallet just got jacked oh wait nope I spent $700 on school books.
I did miss out on space hulk but ya nope friend are so I will get to play


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115 what ate you guys talking about it's 135 in Canada and our dollar is better than the US one ATM this be balls matey.

Red_Starrise wrote:Probably NOT. I'm tired of how much GW charges for their plastic, it's ridiculous.

I really don't think that either Space Hulk or Dread Fleet are hugely expensive for their contents. Premium boardgames command high prices, it's a fact of life. Many of the historical boardgames cost same or even more than Dreadfleet, and really how many times you're going to fight Battle of Singapore? Sure, they contain more playing pieces than Dreadfleet, but DF ships are much larger, and much more detailed than you will probably see in any boardgame, and go for display pieces if you at some point get bored of the game.

That said, I won't be buying DF. Just don't have time or money to invest to yet another game.

No, this is not something I intend to wast my money on. It seems like Gw has deveopled a trend of releasing half assed add ons for WHFB lately