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Can Draigo's Paladins overcome the Shrike's Assault Terminator Ravenguards?
Yes, after they torrent down those TH/SS terminators.
Draw, as both armies will try to deny KP's to the enemy.
No, thunderhammers are just too much for paladins in assault.

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excuse my being if im wrong, but Draigo is fearless??? Therefore, he would confer it to his unit which make the break check not be required


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A fearless IC that joins a non-fearless squad loses the USR. A non-fearless IC that joins a fearless squad gains the USR. In draigo's case, he loses fearless because the pallies he's with are not fearless, too.

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DarthDiggler wrote:With scout, couldn't the paladins have then outflanked? This would have nullified your infiltrate. At the very least I thought he should just deep strike in. This gives you a sure fire way to have 2-3 turns of shooting at the terminators before they charge.

I agree the wound allocation that last turn was not good. It was a very simple easy mistake.

Yeah they could outflank. The only thing is that Draigo has to be on the board to use Psychic Communion. If Draigo outflanked with them (not sure if that's possible), then there's the chance that they may have come in late in the game. And if Draigo stayed on the board, then I would've just infiltrated my termies near Driago and it would've been 11-on-1.

Overall, I don't think outflanking is that good against an army that can also outflank.


darkcloud92 wrote:WOOOOOW that was pretty crazy at the end. I would say the loss went down to his poor generalship for the most part, and your good generalship, seeing his weaknesses and taking advantage of them.

While he did make a mistake with his wound allocation in the end, I don't think he played poorly. In this game, it was just luck that I won. Our rolls were pretty much average. I just got 2 favorable dice rolls....him failing his 2+ armor and then failing morale. Up to then, he was kicking my a$$....and that was even with me getting the charge and him not doing any damage to my haminators with his shooting!


Blackmoor wrote:Now I know that you must never take a leadership check with paladins unless you have to.

My greatest fear as a Draigowing player is not AP2-spam, but mechdar. I'm more concerned with massed tank-shocking skimmers flying 24" than I am with their shooting (unless, or course, someone brings 30 fire dragons and Eldrad).




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TheGrimReaper911 wrote:excuse my being if im wrong, but Draigo is fearless??? Therefore, he would confer it to his unit which make the break check not be required

What tetrisphreak said. A fearless IC that joins a non-fearless squad loses his fearlessness as long as he is with the squad.

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jy2 wrote:
Blackmoor wrote:Now I know that you must never take a leadership check with paladins unless you have to.

My greatest fear as a Draigowing player is not AP2-spam, but mechdar. I'm more concerned with massed tank-shocking skimmers flying 24" than I am with their shooting (unless, or course, someone brings 30 fire dragons and Eldrad).


We should test it out one of these days seeing that I own a mech-dar army with 26 Fire Dragons (plus proxies).

   
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SabrX wrote:
jy2 wrote:
Blackmoor wrote:Now I know that you must never take a leadership check with paladins unless you have to.

My greatest fear as a Draigowing player is not AP2-spam, but mechdar. I'm more concerned with massed tank-shocking skimmers flying 24" than I am with their shooting (unless, or course, someone brings 30 fire dragons and Eldrad).


We should test it out one of these days seeing that I own a mech-dar army with 26 Fire Dragons (plus proxies).

Sounds like a date. We can even make it Apoc if you want and you can use my Cobra as well as your Fire Prism formation. 6 holofield prisms vs 6 vendreads...who will win out?



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You should have assaulted with both the terminators and scouts in the LSS. -2 to leadership on the paladins could have shut down a lot of their powers!!!

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Rex-Nine wrote:You should have assaulted with both the terminators and scouts in the LSS. -2 to leadership on the paladins could have shut down a lot of their powers!!!

The only problem with that was:

1. Free Kill Point for the paladins.

2. Scouts came in 1 turn too late.

3. Because me opponent went first, he could've shot down my speeder if I started it off on the board.



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DooDoo wrote:This demonstrates why my paladins don't leave home without their toilet of judgement

Haha....they can't afford him at 1K, not when Draigo is a requirement.



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I know but I really dig k Fed with Draigo and co. He fixes their only weakness by making them better than fearless. He also sports a mc multti melta at bs 5 and, if you beak off Draigo, K Fed can drop the golden shower on him and wipe out almost anything (e.g. Twc)
   
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jy2 wrote:
SabrX wrote:
jy2 wrote:
Blackmoor wrote:Now I know that you must never take a leadership check with paladins unless you have to.

My greatest fear as a Draigowing player is not AP2-spam, but mechdar. I'm more concerned with massed tank-shocking skimmers flying 24" than I am with their shooting (unless, or course, someone brings 30 fire dragons and Eldrad).


We should test it out one of these days seeing that I own a mech-dar army with 26 Fire Dragons (plus proxies).

Sounds like a date. We can even make it Apoc if you want and you can use my Cobra as well as your Fire Prism formation. 6 holofield prisms vs 6 vendreads...who will win out?



Sounds fun. I wonder how long the Cobra will survive 24 TL BS5 Str8 attacks. The Sunstorm formation w/ holofields + Cobra alone costs 1500 points. I wish I had a more Wave Serpents to make a fully mech Apoc Eldar army. Alas, I only have 9 skimmers. We could do 3000 points, but my vulnerable scoring units will have to advance on foot. Then again, I do have a lot of skimmers to contest objectives like I did last time in our Tau + Eldar + SoB versus Nids Apoc match.

I might be able to do a game between December 18th to the 22nd.

   
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jy2 wrote:
SabrX wrote:
jy2 wrote:My greatest fear as a Draigowing player is not AP2-spam, but mechdar. I'm more concerned with massed tank-shocking skimmers flying 24" than I am with their shooting (unless, or course, someone brings 30 fire dragons and Eldrad).

We should test it out one of these days seeing that I own a mech-dar army with 26 Fire Dragons (plus proxies).

Sounds like a date. We can even make it Apoc if you want and you can use my Cobra as well as your Fire Prism formation. 6 holofield prisms vs 6 vendreads...who will win out?
You can borrow my Cobra, too, SabrX - Jy2 needs to lose an Apoc game. (For that matter, I've got 3 Wave Serpents, 2 Fire Prisms, & a Falcon you can borrow, too. Or maybe I should just join you.)

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Janthkin wrote:
jy2 wrote:
SabrX wrote:
jy2 wrote:My greatest fear as a Draigowing player is not AP2-spam, but mechdar. I'm more concerned with massed tank-shocking skimmers flying 24" than I am with their shooting (unless, or course, someone brings 30 fire dragons and Eldrad).

We should test it out one of these days seeing that I own a mech-dar army with 26 Fire Dragons (plus proxies).

Sounds like a date. We can even make it Apoc if you want and you can use my Cobra as well as your Fire Prism formation. 6 holofield prisms vs 6 vendreads...who will win out?
You can borrow my Cobra, too, SabrX - Jy2 needs to lose an Apoc game. (For that matter, I've got 3 Wave Serpents, 2 Fire Prisms, & a Falcon you can borrow, too. Or maybe I should just join you.)


More the merrier! It will be a lot of fun joining forces with another Eldar player.

   
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SabrX wrote:
Janthkin wrote:
jy2 wrote:
SabrX wrote:
jy2 wrote:My greatest fear as a Draigowing player is not AP2-spam, but mechdar. I'm more concerned with massed tank-shocking skimmers flying 24" than I am with their shooting (unless, or course, someone brings 30 fire dragons and Eldrad).

We should test it out one of these days seeing that I own a mech-dar army with 26 Fire Dragons (plus proxies).

Sounds like a date. We can even make it Apoc if you want and you can use my Cobra as well as your Fire Prism formation. 6 holofield prisms vs 6 vendreads...who will win out?
You can borrow my Cobra, too, SabrX - Jy2 needs to lose an Apoc game. (For that matter, I've got 3 Wave Serpents, 2 Fire Prisms, & a Falcon you can borrow, too. Or maybe I should just join you.)


More the merrier! It will be a lot of fun joining forces with another Eldar player.

Ah...menage a trois. I will PM you guys with the details.

BTW, here's a fun-filled fac - my very first tournament game here at GK was against Janthkin's mechdar.



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