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Amaya wrote:Offhand, The Crusades, Catholic-Protestant warfare (both in mainland Europe and England), the Conquistadors, America's "Manifest Destiny", colonization of the 'savages' in Asia and Africa...and so forth.

The Crusades were a political war that utilized religion as a tool, it was not a religious war at its outset.

Amaya wrote:Perhaps you should read the Bible, I can think of a specific case in the OT where a man rapes his sister and she then wants him to marry her in order to keep what little honor she has left.

Neither which is legal under Hebrew Law.

SoloFalcon1138 wrote:

Azure wrote:Specify religion down to 'Islam' and then it's right, I highly doubt many other religions, even cults would practice that sort of atrocity.

Though honestly, religion and politics don't seem to mix well anyways, so yeah. Down with the theocracies thatp allow this farce of justice

Don't forget it is prescribed by Christianity, too. Deuteronomy 22:28-29.

This is NOT Christian law, it is Hebrew Law.

This thread will not progress or end well...

Please don't bash other people's religion? I wont bash yours...?

The only good thing that seems to have come out of this is that the public in Morocco do not support this at all, we might see more progress in a country that is already doing pretty well.

Luco wrote:
The Crusades were a political war that utilized religion as a tool, it was not a religious war at its outset.

Utter bollocks.

Honestly, how can you possibly say that?

This is NOT Christian law, it is Hebrew Law.

Last I checked the bible included both, and Jesus made no mention that all previous written law was now irrelevant.

Amaya wrote:I agree with that, but I disagree with Muslim bashing. There was a time when Christian nations were just as bad or worse.

At the time those western nations also thought it was acceptable to enslave black and women couldn't have a valid political opinion.

Things have moved on since then, blaming religion alone for pre-modern cultures is rather unfair.

The vast majority of people I know don't have an issue with Jews, Christians, Sikhs, gays, lesbians, black and Asian people, butchers, bakers and candlestick makers, but all have distaste for Islam.

The liberals can tell themselves it's ignorance and bigotry and stupidity until they go blue in the face. It doesn't change the fact that little girls are getting their genitals mutilated, women are being treated as less important than their penis wielding counterparts, and the primary reason for a burkha is to absolve a man of rape because you dared tempt him.

These are facts. Your entitled to your opinion, but don't dress everyone else's argument as bigotry and ignorance.

Tens of millions of educated left leaning people see things the way I do.

The world would be better off without Islam. I believe it with every ounce of common sense I possess.

mattyrm wrote: It doesn't change the fact that little girls are getting their genitals mutilated...

I've never heard of this being a doctrine in Islam, in fact I can only think of a couple of regions in Africa where this is practiced.

The problem in this thread is the same as in all Islam bashing threads.

Something which is peculiar to various cultures and regions, is generalised to include all Islamic people everywhere.