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beezley1981 wrote:40K's not nearly popular enough in the US for Hollywood to really take any kind of notice.
The same could be said of the comic which resulted in the "Priest" movie, tho. Or a number of other obscure franchises which received a movie adaption.
In fact, this reminds me ...
Don't tell me that this P&P is more popular than 40k - I've never even heard of it before having seen the movie. A movie which actually feels quite 40k'ish as well, considering it has boltguns, Aquila banners, drop pods, and mutants.
If GW really wanted, I'm sure they could get investors interested. General IP oversight would be part of the contract, just like their deals with THQ. Games Workshop didn't finance the Dawn of War games either, after all.
Maybe it's not more popular, but it's based on a comic book, and comic book movies are far more popular that tabletop game movies. Not to mention, a 40K movie would cost 200 million dollars to do right, and that's just not going to happen.
Veteran Sergeant wrote:The thing is, an actual feature film wouldn't be financed by Games Workshop. That's not how mainstream Hollywood license films are made. GW would likely be paid for the use of the license, and then the money would be fronted by investors, and the studio that made it. GW doesn't have an in-house film studio.
Correct, this is what I was saying before.
Automatically Appended Next Post: The thing that annoys me is that if done right it could make a fantastic movie.
Just think about it, Gothic, dark, moody, evil, heroic, tech, battleships, titans, daemons, phychic powers. It really gets the waters flowing.
Like someone said before, this couldn't be a kiddy film this needs to be done right. Can you imagine the public reaction to even a disembodied servitor hanging from a stratagium?
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Psienesis wrote:As a note, Mutant Chronicles was never released anywhere other than Russia. It cost an estimated $25mil to make, and has so far made back $1.2m.
English-language torrents are available, though, which is how I saw it.
Huh, that I did not know! I've seen it in English as well. Curious that they never released it elsewhere - one should imagine that an already produced movie should be easy to distribute. But I guess the license holder didn't find a publisher willing to meet its conditions, and thus prefers the movie to rot away unseen. Economy can be strange like this. Which is probably why there's no proper GW movie either.
beezley1981 wrote:Not to mention, a 40K movie would cost 200 million dollars to do right, and that's just not going to happen.
I dunno, I've seen some movies which were able to deliver very impressive scenes with a much smaller budget. Mutant Chronicles is one example, Priest is another. Or District 9. Or Iron Skies. Even the trailer from this Inquisitor fan movie looks quite impressive.
CGI - as it would probably be required for various battle scenes and any space ships - has become fairly cheap these days and, as proven by some of the aforementioned projects, can be replicated in a sufficient manner by dedicated fans in their own home. In general, movies used to be a lot cheaper just a few decades back (as an example, "The Terminator" was producted with a budget of $6.5 mil).
Imho, the excessive amounts of money that are gobbled up by mainstream Hollywood productions these days seem to include a huge amount of waste, likely spent on ridiculous wages or advertisement. If a single actor alone already gets, say, $35 millions out of a $200 million budget (Johnny Depp in PotC 4), then I'm just gonna laugh this off as something going seriously wrong in the biz.
If you want to make a cheap yet impressive 40k movie, do it like the other successful low-budget movies and get good actors with realistic wages.
Lightcavalier wrote:Having just read Storm of Iron, I really believe that it would suite the movie format.
You have a self contained story that encompass guard, ad mech, marines, and traitors...with huge battles and small fights, intrigue, and deception. All without being too long, drawn out, or superfluous.
They could do a cross-over film with another studio to appeal to a larger fan-base. Start off with some IG guys making planetfall somewhere, supposedly to rescue some colony or another, only they find it totally empty and all wrecked up. So they start trying to figure out what happened, maybe with the help of an Inquisitor and his cadre. That's when the Necrons and/or the Tyranid show up and all hell breaks loose.
The battle rages on, IG people dropping dead left and right, a handful of Space Marines that showed up/were located on the planet not enough to stop the bug/undead horde...
... when Derpy Hooves & Co swoop in to the rescue and save the day by, I dunno, doing whatever the hell it is Ponies do to smash bugs and/or Crons.
I'll be waiting for my check, GW.
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Psienesis wrote:As a note, Mutant Chronicles was never released anywhere other than Russia. It cost an estimated $25mil to make, and has so far made back $1.2m.
English-language torrents are available, though, which is how I saw it.
The movie was filmed in English, and was released worldwide on DVD in 2009. As well it had theatrical releases in the UK, Canada, and USA (though limited like the Boondock Saints).
It is fully available on DVD in whatever language they want worldwide. Yes it was terrible and made almost no money...but Mutant Chronicles as a whole cannot hold a candle to 40k.
If hollywood ever wants to do 40k they will go big or go home...you might wind up with John Carter or you might not.
I think they should make a film about the horus heresy the amount of histories that there were they could probably make it a trilogy or maybe even a saga
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DILL3NGER wrote:Maybe GW should be out there looking for a backer then. It's not often that films are made on thier own nowadays anyway. Most are done in partnership. Marvel comics being a great example of this.
Well, it's still "in association with Paramount Pictures", where I think a lot of money would be coming from. Just like Lucasfilm Studios got the budget for Star Wars from 20th Century Fox.
That being said, Marvel is owned by Disney, so I suppose they should have a lot of money by themselves, too.
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I suppose that they would look at it that 40k doesant have a lot of a following I mean look at disney films mostly a family film day marvel a larger following than 40k but I don't believe 40k has a big enough following to give them a profit margin that would interest them even if it did go into profits it would probably be like pocket change to the film company
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I guess that's true, even for its position in the hobby it still isn't as widely known. That said, I do believe it could be "sold" to the masses if it just had a promising plot and impressive FX. It's not like every movie needs to have some franchise behind it, after all. Lots get made with an original story that can stand on its own.
This would be the challenge in making a proper 40k movie, I think. Not relying on the franchise but approaching it from a position as if you were trying to replicate the success of Star Wars : A New Hope back when Lucas was still a nobody.
Or at least that's the wishful thinking that the beancounters would have. I think it would be sufficient for such a movie to make any profit at all. Even if it doesn't become a box office hit, it'd still be of value as a simple means of promoting the franchise.
Yeah it could be a way of promoting GW or it could have the exact opposite effect and people just laugh at the film but that being said it most likely to bring more hobbyists so yeah it could be another version of star wars I mean personally I think it would be brilliant to see a GW film and I would go and see it. After that though the film companies would proabably just try and milk it and make another bunch of pointless and disappointing films
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the dark king wrote:I didn't really enjoy that book 1 guardsman dies after beating some statistic horus heresy books however I find their generally quite good
I think the point was to emphasise certain aspects of the Imperium that are particularly grim...
In 15 hours it was a combination of the odd bureaucratic errors that cost human life, the strange grinding warfare the Imperial Guard is often used in and the weird beliefs soldiers hold in 40k...
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DemetriDominov wrote:No one has mentioned the Lord Inquisitor yet. It's a fan made movie now sanctioned by GW because it's going to be so much better than Ultramarines... if they get a better voice actor than in the trailer that is.. check it out:
Is it finished or is it just a trailer right now? And GW says it's cool?
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I don't think it would do well on the big screen. A 40k film should have a bit more bang for your buck. Need action and a future setting to promote the games workshop company
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the dark king wrote:I don't think it would do well on the big screen. A 40k film should have a bit more bang for your buck. Need action and a future setting to promote the games workshop company
Not sure what you mean? If there's a larger action based universe out there let me know, I want to know where it's hiding!
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No I mean a 40k film is going to probaly be based on a book and that particular book is a bit dull I didn't enjoy reading it so it probably won't be that good on the big screen.
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He has a point a 40k movie would have to be somewhere between Avatar and Michael Bay...why I always go back to Storm of Iron
You get siege warfare, tank battles, titan battles, subterfuge, mutation, chaos, space marines, guardsmen, and a strong plot in one neat package (which was already written in a very cinematic fashion)
Automatically Appended Next Post: If I go to watch a 40k movie, I do not want it to be Vietnam/WW2/Starship Troopers (the film). I do not care if I identify with the characters. I want to see giants in power armour rip apart mortals with their bare hands and giant explosions.
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And thank you lightcavalier it was exactly as you said not 15 hours but something they can put really big battles in with 8ft tall superhuman giants and very big tanks with lots of overly big explosions
Automatically Appended Next Post: All while mixed in with futuristic settings
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Emperors children put your lash away mines bigger and we know how to use it
Based on some of the movies that have come out recently Tanks and explosions are all that is required for a moderately successful Hollywood film these days..
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