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Probably my space marines with dark eldar, mainly because thats partly what i want next.

I will probably have my Sisters ally with my IG at first and vice versa. I may also ally my Space Marines ally with some Blood Angels so I can finally do a fluffy Raven Guard command squad. I don't care about the furious charge so much as I do the apothecary and other command sqaud members (ie Honor Guard) with a jump pack. I just won't be calling them Blood Angels.

All over this! I have been building a DG army and I am so happy with this combo. Fluffy and nasty as hell.

NOTHING! I own tyranids ;_;

I'm planning on picking up some Chaos Daemons, Imperial Guard and Orks to go with my CSM force.

I'm going to finish my Gue’vesa as IG + Tau allied. Should be fun to mix battlesuits with IG.

With my (rather elitist) CSM army, I'll be bringing some good old greenskin cannon fodder, to hold objectives and take shots for me, while my important marines march on unharmed.

Really like Ally rules - also gives a chance for new players to join more expereinced ones with a small force of their own

My Sisters with IG and vice versa
same with Space Marines - we recently ran a short narrative campaign with Salamanders, Guard and Sisters - against Chaos and Orks so thats cool.

My Chaos Space Marines with Daemons

I'd also try some "Traitor" Guard with Chaos or either style

I quite fancy trying out some human mercs with my Orks

I'm actually thinking of adding in some necrons to my CSM as a reference to the old chaos androids from space crusade- in the old fluff they were built by the chaos squats (this is how long ago they were around).

It depends on how the tournament scene shakes out. I play in a very tournament minded gaming group, where you might find one casual list for every five competitive lists that hit the table on 40k night. If the local tournaments ban allies, I don't expect that we'll be using allies in our games, and as such, I'll forego them. Otherwise, I have a nascent Blood Angels army, and I wouldn't mind adding some Terminators and perhaps a Librarian to my Imperial Guard force. On the other hand, I've always wanted an to excuse to get some Sisters of Battle on the table, without shelling out the cash for an all-metal Sisters army. Thanks to the allies rules, I can pretty painlessly slot in a Sisters Squad with Canoness.

Crystal-Maze wrote:I'm actually thinking of adding in some necrons to my CSM as a reference to the old chaos androids from space crusade- in the old fluff they were built by the chaos squats (this is how long ago they were around).

Good point - the 'crons that ally with CSM's could be daemon engines...

For my Imperial Guard, I may include a few Imperial Fist SMs as allies but I probably wont

You should bring darnath lysander - he can fortify cover to improve saves etc

My DE army is gonna be benefiting from a traitor guard gunline

Ahh, the traitor guard

I love the new rules. Probably going to test BA fast transport troops (death guard?) and some GK initiative six termies to see which works best with my missile spam space wolves.

Since I have a Thousand points of Eldar, and a Thousand of Tau, I'm gonna try to make one full sized army out of them. I can't tell if it'll be Eldar fighting for the greater good, or Tau being used as pawns in an Eldar scheme

I'm thinking of pairing Blood Angels with my Guard force.

Plan on looting a squad of basilisks and a Tau piranha (counts-as Dakkajet). No real strategy going on here, I'm just happy to have a rules justification for my fluffy Big Mek army.

Eh, the only thing I might bring in as allies into my blood angels army is a biker captain + 2 squads of bikers.

an all troops army, with assault marines and bikes, would be pretty sexy.

dæl wrote:

sverigesson wrote:

Tarkand wrote:

DiRTWaL wrote:Do_I_Not_Like_That and TedNugent, you guys must have a creative imagination.

I don't like allies either and it has nothing to do with imagination and everything to do with balance... I certainly hope most tournament do not allow them.

Nothing personal, but I've been hearing this a lot, and I don't like what it implies. Tournaments who don't allow allies are throwing out a huge and important part of the new rules. I know GW is not notorious for balance, but they have at least worked on this. We've had the rules for two days, and I don't think we'll be able to judge whether allies are balanced or not for a while. Why don't tournaments throw out fliers, too, since some armies can clearly deal with them better than others? Why don't we throw out fortifications, because there aren't really any specifically for Xenos yet? At least allies allow for some leveling of the playing field between top and bottom tier armies.

If you look at the force allocation chart, allies and fortifications are optional, so it's hardly " throwing out a huge and important part of the new rules."

I love this answer. lol Psttt did you know Elites,fast attack and heavies are optional too. Guess turnies will only allow 1 HQ and 2 Troops now

Steel Angel wrote:

dæl wrote:

sverigesson wrote:

Tarkand wrote:

DiRTWaL wrote:Do_I_Not_Like_That and TedNugent, you guys must have a creative imagination.

I don't like allies either and it has nothing to do with imagination and everything to do with balance... I certainly hope most tournament do not allow them.

Nothing personal, but I've been hearing this a lot, and I don't like what it implies. Tournaments who don't allow allies are throwing out a huge and important part of the new rules. I know GW is not notorious for balance, but they have at least worked on this. We've had the rules for two days, and I don't think we'll be able to judge whether allies are balanced or not for a while. Why don't tournaments throw out fliers, too, since some armies can clearly deal with them better than others? Why don't we throw out fortifications, because there aren't really any specifically for Xenos yet? At least allies allow for some leveling of the playing field between top and bottom tier armies.

If you look at the force allocation chart, allies and fortifications are optional, so it's hardly " throwing out a huge and important part of the new rules."

I love this answer. lol Psttt did you know Elites,fast attack and heavies are optional too. Guess turnies will only allow 1 HQ and 2 Troops now

Many people don't like the allies and fortifications. I am amongst them. It allows every army (except nids, sorry ) to completely patch up their weaknesses, instead of requiring skill to minimise the impact of those weaknesses.

However, if I were to ally anything with anything, I'd ally my DA and Eldar together, and Tau once I begin making my army. Not buying any units specifically for alliances though.

Many people don't like the allies and fortifications. I am amongst them. It allows every army (except nids, sorry ) to completely patch up their weaknesses, instead of requiring skill to minimise the impact of those weaknesses.

Weaknesses like being a few editions outdated?

Many people don't like the allies and fortifications. I am amongst them. It allows every army (except nids, sorry ) to completely patch up their weaknesses, instead of requiring skill to minimise the impact of those weaknesses.

So now it will require even more skill to over come your opponents strength.

Steel Angel wrote:

Many people don't like the allies and fortifications. I am amongst them. It allows every army (except nids, sorry ) to completely patch up their weaknesses, instead of requiring skill to minimise the impact of those weaknesses.

So now it will require even more skill to over come your opponents strength.

Perhaps, or just better rolls. I find it more interesting to have to cover your weaknesses and overcome your enemy (who if they are good enough should be playing to their strengths), than to have to focus more on overcoming your enemy.

I also think the fortifications/allies rules could be abused, not to mention it would be kind of hard to play at tourneys if everyone decided to bring along aegis defence lines, bastions and fortresses of redemption.

Ive just started collecting Necrons and i fancy having a horde of assimilated Orks as cannon fodder for my army

I've been considering adding a little force of exiled Craftworlders to my DE army at some point in the future, just for special occasions.

My myriad Imperial armies are going to ally all over the place. That's what I've always wanted to do, since I started back in 2nd, but couldn't afford to build armies, being a lazy schoolkid. Then 3rd happened and I couldn't any more. But now I'm back in business!

So far I've made (and had a go with) a 1500 point World Eaters/Daemons of Khorne army:

Kharn - Warlord
9 Bezerkers - plasma pistol
Land Raider
10 CSM's - Melta + Flamer
3 Oblits

Bloodthirster - blessing + might
14 Bloodletters

Kharn is even worse now thanks to Gorechild striking at I1. 'Zerkers are also worse now that FC doesnt give +1 I. The Land Raider is slightly less durable, but thats the same with all vehicles, so I can live with that. The Bloodletters are hit really hard by the AP3 CCW and FC nerf, it's slightly mitigated by "no retreat" getting axed, but its still bad. The only thing to do well out of the edition change is The Bloodthirster, being a FMC can make him more survivable and gives another string to his bow.

The only other use of allies that I'm considering is a Death Guard army with a blob squad of traitor IG.

I've been drooling over Eldar for a long time. And I'm a DE player, so I was SUPER happy to find out that they're battle brothers. I'm in love with the psychic powers (although still unsure on if when they refer to "Eldar" whether or not DE are included) and the bold stylisation.

Sorcererbob wrote:I've been drooling over Eldar for a long time. And I'm a DE player, so I was SUPER happy to find out that they're battle brothers. I'm in love with the psychic powers (although still unsure on if when they refer to "Eldar" whether or not DE are included) and the bold stylisation.

DE don't use psychic powers, so just Craftworlders. Surely you noticed the lack of Psykers in your 'dex?