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2012/07/05 21:34:52
Subject: Clarification Banshee Initiative in CC
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Its the difference between a models initiative and initiative step.
Banshees would be I10
But they would not attack until initiative step 1 if they had unwieldy weapons.
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2012/07/05 21:37:49
Subject: Re:Clarification Banshee Initiative in CC
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Confessor Of Sins
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It does say that attacks are made on an initiative step, based on the initiatve stat value though.
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2012/07/05 21:46:35
Subject: Clarification Banshee Initiative in CC
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Yeah, but Unwieldy makes them attack at step 1,
The Banshee mask makes them Initiative 10.
The rules don't conflict.
If the mask said 'models attack at initiative step 10 on the charge' then there would be an issue. But the Unwieldy rule doesn't care about a Models initiative, only the step at which they make their attacks.
The Banshees would still pile in at I10 in that first round, but if they were wielding an unwieldy weapon, their attacks would be made at I1
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2012/07/05 21:54:25
Subject: Clarification Banshee Initiative in CC
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Confessor Of Sins
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Besides, Banshee Masks (4th ed codex) have been shafted since 5th came along... They work against the bonuses from being in cover but 5th no longer gave a bonus from being in cover, it inflicted a penalty on units charging through cover.
And as GW said in their very own 5th ed BRB FAQ, if a special rule or piece of wargear doesn't seem to work with the new edition they simply don't do anything. They'll probably say the same again and wait for you to buy a better army.
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2012/09/15 08:30:27
Subject: Re:Clarification Banshee Initiative in CC
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Fixture of Dakka
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Related note, Banshees are I10 in Sweeping Advance in the first round, if I'm recalling that correctly.
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"'players must agree how they are going to select their armies, and if any restrictions apply to the number and type of models they can use."
This is an actual rule in the actual rulebook. Quit whining about how you can imagine someone's army touching you in a bad place and play by the actual rules.
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2012/07/05 21:58:58
Subject: Clarification Banshee Initiative in CC
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Regular Dakkanaut
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SA tests on your unmodified initiative
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2012/07/06 00:39:16
Subject: Clarification Banshee Initiative in CC
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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Banshee mask only gives I10 on the initial charge.... it would have no bearing on Sweeping advance.
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