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uberjoras wrote:
On the other hand, iPad only? Seriously, that's just overdesigning it. I guess it lowers piracy, even though their potential market shrinks exponentially.

Oh well, since nobody I know bought into the Apple craze, I suppose I won't know any of the content herein. That's just too bad, GW might've gotten my money on this.

 kronk wrote:
They're optional battle missions.

I think what he meant to say was "are these the same as the one-sided pointless missions?"

The chaos one might be pretty cool, Ill probably pick it up Friday.

 kronk wrote:
At this point, I'd rather pay the $5 to get the iPad battle missions than $9 for a WD that I have to carry around.

Pretty much this.

This isn't a matter of principle for me, it's simple economics of money, space, and ease of use and access. If they ha my codex and the rulebook available digitally, I'd get those too.

GW doesn't release any new content like missions or special rules: "GW is bad, they should release those kind of things."

GW releases special rules and missions in WD: "I have to pay $x for a magazine full of advertisements for GW to get the rules/missions? And once it is sold out I don't get it anymore? This is stupid, they should release it separately!"

GW releases special rules and missions as a separate supplement: "This is dumb. Why can't they just add that to a WD instead?"

I guess anything other that a free PDF is just GW being GW...

Would it be better if it was free? Of course, everything would be better if it was free.

Do I mind spending less than a issue of WD for something that I'd likely buy an entire issue of WD (and then have to carry it around)? No, I do not mind.

 Breotan wrote:

I'll admit, I laughed at that one.

This release isn't a bad idea, and it's pretty fairly priced, compared to what they'd charge for a WD in comparison. I like the concept, but GW is failing for me in the execution of this new "digital fad".

Well, Apple is like 60%+ of the tablet market so...

GW LOVES the microtransactions, this is nothing new.

These do nothing but highlight how wretched WD has become though.....

 d-usa wrote:
GW doesn't release any new content like missions or special rules: "GW is bad, they should release those kind of things."

GW releases special rules and missions in WD: "I have to pay $x for a magazine full of advertisements for GW to get the rules/missions? And once it is sold out I don't get it anymore? This is stupid, they should release it separately!"

GW releases special rules and missions as a separate supplement: "This is dumb. Why can't they just add that to a WD instead?"

I guess anything other that a free PDF is just GW being GW...

How about as a mini-Ebook format, like the short stories Black Library puts out. Then anything with e-book reader software could use them, rather than iPad only.

Really, GW, really? I love battle missions, and try to collect both old and new scenarios, but you seem to not realize, I haven't got an iPad. Sell this to me using a generic e-reader or PDF and you can have some of my lunch money this week. Oh, when will you learn?

 Ozymandias wrote:
Well, Apple is like 60%+ of the tablet market so...

It's even worse than that... they might be 60% of the market by units, but they're 90% of the market by app and content sales.

I write software for my day job, and have put out apps on both iPad and Android... I am definitely not an Apple fanboy, but if you want to get your feet wet in digital content, there's no better entry point than to target iPad.

Edited for personal foot in mouth.

I guess the majority of people in here don't have an iPad to see how much these cost. They're NOT $5.00.

They're $7.99 EACH.

Plus sales tax. That's way too much IMO.

 AT wrote:

 Ozymandias wrote:
Well, Apple is like 60%+ of the tablet market so...

It's even worse than that... they might be 60% of the market by units, but they're 90% of the market by app and content sales.

I write software for my day job, and have put out apps on both iPad and Android... I am definitely not an Apple fanboy, but if you want to get your feet wet in digital content, there's no better entry point than to target iPad.

Hmm, that's funny because GW are only reaching 60% of users, I would think they would want to reach 100% of users, so a generic e-reader would make more sense, something that both Android and iPad hipsters can make use of. That takes us back to the good old PDF.

The first three chaos marine missions have the same names as the ones in battle missions book. So really three new missions and three recycled ones?

xraytango wrote:

 AT wrote:

 Ozymandias wrote:
Well, Apple is like 60%+ of the tablet market so...

It's even worse than that... they might be 60% of the market by units, but they're 90% of the market by app and content sales.

I write software for my day job, and have put out apps on both iPad and Android... I am definitely not an Apple fanboy, but if you want to get your feet wet in digital content, there's no better entry point than to target iPad.

Hmm, that's funny because GW are only reaching 60% of users, I would think they would want to reach 100% of users, so a generic e-reader would make more sense, something that both Android and iPad hipsters can make use of. That takes us back to the good old PDF.

PDSs can easily be pirated. That is one of the reasons GW is going with the iBook format.

Now don't get me wrong, I think most anti-piracy stuff is dumb and just makes things more difficult for honest users. But that is the reason for their actions.

 oni wrote:
I guess the majority of people in here don't have an iPad to see how much these cost. They're NOT $5.00.

They're $7.99 EACH.

Plus sales tax. That's way too much IMO.

Yes, I think some of us may have not noticed the British £ symbol in the price. Remember kids, it takes fewer pounds to make a dollar than it does dollars to make pounds!

The problem with pdf's are they are far too easy to post online

fancy smancy iPad stuff is a little harder (and a little harder to upload to your tablet if you find a pirate version)

so overall they sell more stuff by just going iPad

It's cool and all and I think its a good idea.

Would be even cooler if i could get iBooks on my mac and actually print out missions to take to the games club - easier to refer to them that way, you know?

Be cool to get these in Google Play Magazines (ugh, dumb name) for Android, as well. And heck, im sure Windows has some sort of equivalent too.

They do DRM too, after all.

I think DRM is just part of it. The standard iPad size helps designing books and I think the software to create them is fairly easy. The fragmentation that makes Android so great for users also makes it a pain for developers.

 Flashman wrote:
"Hey loyal Warhammer fans! Remember the stuff that used to make WD interesting? Well, we thought you'd much prefer to pay for it separately. Enjoy!"

I know if only GW had some sort of print platform that could make these widely available huh?

 d-usa wrote:
GW releases special rules and missions in WD: "I have to pay $x for a magazine full of advertisements for GW to get the rules/missions? And once it is sold out I don't get it anymore? This is stupid, they should release it separately!"

No one would complain about content in WD.


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 d-usa wrote:
PDSs can easily be pirated. That is one of the reasons GW is going with the iBook format.

Which explains why all those other game companies that regularly put out PDF's are all failing horribly... oh wait they're not.

 d-usa wrote:
The standard iPad size helps designing books and I think the software to create them is fairly easy.

Well yeah - they're just standard HTML web pages with special extra apple gubbins stuck on, put into a pretty container called an iBook.

 d-usa wrote:
GW doesn't release any new content like missions or special rules: "GW is bad, they should release those kind of things."

GW releases special rules and missions in WD: "I have to pay $x for a magazine full of advertisements for GW to get the rules/missions? And once it is sold out I don't get it anymore? This is stupid, they should release it separately!"

GW releases special rules and missions as a separate supplement: "This is dumb. Why can't they just add that to a WD instead?"

I guess anything other that a free PDF is just GW being GW...

This. Sticky please.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
GW releases special rules and missions in WD: "I have to pay $x for a magazine full of advertisements for GW to get the rules/missions? And once it is sold out I don't get it anymore? This is stupid, they should release it separately!"

No one would complain about content in WD.

Yes they would. They have done so on a regular basis for the reasons I posted. Didn't get the WD with the flyer rules or the SoB mini-dex? Well, they are sold out, touch luck until we decide to publish them another way.

No one would complain about content in WD

Yea people raged about flyer rules in WD and now their raging about the new flyer supplement........Damned if you do, damned if you dont.

 d-usa wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
GW releases special rules and missions in WD: "I have to pay $x for a magazine full of advertisements for GW to get the rules/missions? And once it is sold out I don't get it anymore? This is stupid, they should release it separately!"

No one would complain about content in WD.

Yes they would. They have done so on a regular basis for the reasons I posted. Didn't get the WD with the flyer rules or the SoB mini-dex? Well, they are sold out, touch luck until we decide to publish them another way.

This.

I do believe that the spinning commissar himself has complained about these very subjects. I'd search through his posts for proof, but I'm lazy and he's prolific.

lonedrow02 wrote:

No one would complain about content in WD

Yea people raged about flyer rules in WD and now their raging about the new flyer supplement........Damned if you do, damned if you dont.

d-usa wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
GW releases special rules and missions in WD: "I have to pay $x for a magazine full of advertisements for GW to get the rules/missions? And once it is sold out I don't get it anymore? This is stupid, they should release it separately!"

No one would complain about content in WD.

Yes they would. They have done so on a regular basis for the reasons I posted. Didn't get the WD with the flyer rules or the SoB mini-dex? Well, they are sold out, touch luck until we decide to publish them another way.

Ozymandias wrote:

 d-usa wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
GW releases special rules and missions in WD: "I have to pay $x for a magazine full of advertisements for GW to get the rules/missions? And once it is sold out I don't get it anymore? This is stupid, they should release it separately!"

No one would complain about content in WD.

Yes they would. They have done so on a regular basis for the reasons I posted. Didn't get the WD with the flyer rules or the SoB mini-dex? Well, they are sold out, touch luck until we decide to publish them another way.

This.

I do believe that the spinning commissar himself has complained about these very subjects. I'd search through his posts for proof, but I'm lazy and he's prolific.

There is a HUGE difference between putting rules needed to play your shiny new unit or even an entire army in a limited format like WD and putting some cool extra rules in there for different missions. One is needed and now unavailable, the other is a cool little bonus that would add some much needed content to white dwarf.

Each of these books is 6 missions, you could throw 1 fantasy and 1 40k (hell, probably even throw in 1 hobbit too) in each white dwarf and you'd have 6 months worth of good content to help fill out what is now little more than an advisement but instead they are asking $9 (aud) for it and hoping people buy white dwarf anyway.


*Edit* wow I just noticed they are selling a 'Tactica: Space Marine Heroes' for $8.. really?

And people aren't complaining that the content is in WD anyway, they are complaining that they can't get that content legally after WD sells out, there is a bit of a difference there!

But hey, white knights are white knighting, what else is new?