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To be fair, Grindhouse has invested in this one their own and has published the game. If a kickstarter allows a major upgrade to components and increases their chance of getting wider distribution I am all for it. Incursion is a very cool game.

 Azazelx wrote:
I wish everything didn't have to be a Kickstarter these days...

I completely agree. It had its novelty, and Ill support some in the future (anxiously awaiting Paulsons Mecha Front) but anything coming from larger companies Ill hold onto my money and just wait for the retail release.

 Azazelx wrote:
Yeah, I'm not saying that it's unreasonable. I was just hoping to hear that it was released (this year, sometime soonish) and be able to just buy it. Also, kickstarter fatigue since it's starting to feel like no-one in our hobby just releases stuff anymore aside from GW, FFG and a few others.

Azazelx, in lieu of that, how about my personal guarantee that the Grindhouse will do everything it can to avoid Aussie Price Gouging?


Also, we're posting some articles up for prospective new players:

http://www.grindhousegames.com/blogs/incursion-blog/8109881-the-first-in-a-series-of-tactics-articles-zombie-management

Love to get your feedback!

Now in color!

Another pic and a start date: we're shooting for August first

Really looking forward to this - plus August 1st as a start date gives me plenty of time to recover/save up!

I've never played the original, anyone want to give me a quick synopsis of what this is all about?

Space Hulk if Space Hulk was set in Weird War II?

 Alpharius wrote:
Space Hulk if Space Hulk was set in Weird War II?

I could get into that. I will Definitley keep Aug 1st marked on the calander and take a look at this when it goes live, if nothing else because everyone else seems so excited about it.

 squall018 wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Space Hulk if Space Hulk was set in Weird War II?

I could get into that. I will Definitley will keep Aug 1st marked on the calander and take a look at this when it goes live, if nothing else because everyone else seems so excited about it.

It may be worth looking at the downloads on the Grindhouse site:

http://www.grindhousegames.com/pages/downloads

The rules for the current version of Incursion are there and it will give you a good idea of what the game is like. It IS similar to Space Hulk, but has some VERY cool differences in game play (not just theme).

EDIT: Oops... The link to the rules is dead. Sorry. It is still available from the Board Game Geek site though:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/filepage/65013/rulebook

Yeah,
It's similar to space hulk but there is much better squad building and tactics.

Panic...

 CptJake wrote:


http://www.grindhousegames.com/pages/downloads

EDIT: Oops... The link to the rules is dead. Sorry. It is still available from the Board Game Geek site though:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/filepage/65013/rulebook

Sorry about that CptJake, we're doing a bit of site maintenance in prep for the KS. I have ensured that Boardgamegeek is effectively a mirror site concerning our downloads.

Thanks guys, I'll take a look at them when I get home later.

Taking suggestions concerning box art (https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Grindhouse-Games/139536469402885?hc_location=stream). Jump on over and make yourself heard!

 robertsjf wrote:

 Azazelx wrote:
Yeah, I'm not saying that it's unreasonable. I was just hoping to hear that it was released (this year, sometime soonish) and be able to just buy it. Also, kickstarter fatigue since it's starting to feel like no-one in our hobby just releases stuff anymore aside from GW, FFG and a few others.

Azazelx, in lieu of that, how about my personal guarantee that the Grindhouse will do everything it can to avoid Aussie Price Gouging?

That'd be lovely, actually. Probably wouldn't take a whole lot - putting more nations' RRP on your website and product information would probably do much of the trick, since distributors and retailers just slap on whatever they think the market will bear based on other games as the "Australian RRP" of board and hobby games.

What's the Australian RRP of Zombicide?
$115?
$130?
$99.95?

It depends on how large you want your made-up discount to be, of course!

http://shop.goodgames.com.au/board-games/shop-by-publisher/cool-mini-or-not/zombicide-rrp-115.html
http://www.milsims.com.au/node/124722
http://www.gamesempire.com.au/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=15189
http://www.gamesparadise.com.au/zombiecide

I think we all knew this was going to happen:



would you like another?

Does it mean they don't have any confidence in their setting, game mechanics or miniatures quality if they resort to sex to sell the game?

Honestly, the gas mask makes me want to find out more about the game than the gazongas or the tush. I can find gazongas and tush on any box cover these days.

So you're telling me that if I give you money, you'll give me plastic WWII zombies, cyborgs, and supersoldiers? Basically, you're giving me Return to Castle Wolfenstein in mini format? I'm in!

 Barzam wrote:
So you're telling me that if I give you money, you'll give me plastic WWII zombies, cyborgs, and supersoldiers? Basically, you're giving me Return to Castle Wolfenstein in mini format? I'm in!

That's one less game I have to buy then!

I have proof now! I've got witnesses that said you're buying it!

It's not Wolfenstein until we have undead vikings as well, don't you remember?

My question is this- do the folks at Grindhouse have anything that can top the ridiculousness/ awesomeness/ radicalness/ EXTREMEness of chaingun wielding cybernetic Nazi gorillas?





ps- please say yes.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Does it mean they don't have any confidence in their setting, game mechanics or miniatures quality if they resort to sex to sell the game?

Honestly, the gas mask makes me want to find out more about the game than the gazongas or the tush. I can find gazongas and tush on any box cover these days.

Nope, they have confidence in the setting and game mechanics and miniature quality. They also are going with a pulp type setting and art style, which since way back before our time included tush and gazongas.

This google search has plenty of examples showing this art style fits the theme perfectly:
LINK

Read some of the existing reviews, download the rules.

I find it rather ironic that swastikas can seemingly no longer be shown alongside Nazis as bad guys in so much media now (from Monty Python to Star Trek!), or on covers or chits of games, yet it was perfectly fine for decade while the way was in common living memory.

It's mainly down to globalisation

Before that manufacturers tended to go for custom images/designs/names for each territory a product would be sold in

Now your image/look/name had got to work (and be legal) everywhere

and with Germany (and maybe Austria?) banning the Swastika and other Nazi iconography if you want to sell your stuff in the EU it's simpler to leave it off

(and more so if you're vaguely aware of the German Law and don't really know the specifics, it's cheaper and easier to avoid it entirely)

 CptJake wrote:

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Does it mean they don't have any confidence in their setting, game mechanics or miniatures quality if they resort to sex to sell the game?

Honestly, the gas mask makes me want to find out more about the game than the gazongas or the tush. I can find gazongas and tush on any box cover these days.

Nope, they have confidence in the setting and game mechanics and miniature quality. They also are going with a pulp type setting and art style, which since way back before our time included tush and gazongas.

This google search has plenty of examples showing this art style fits the theme perfectly:
LINK

Read some of the existing reviews, download the rules.

That's right BobtheInquisitor, tushes and gazongas are the cherry on top of our wonderful cake of solid gameplay mechanics and setting. Have a slice!

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
It's mainly down to globalisation

Before that manufacturers tended to go for custom images/designs/names for each territory a product would be sold in

Now your image/look/name had got to work (and be legal) everywhere

and with Germany (and maybe Austria?) banning the Swastika and other Nazi iconography if you want to sell your stuff in the EU it's simpler to leave it off

(and more so if you're vaguely aware of the German Law and don't really know the specifics, it's cheaper and easier to avoid it entirely)

Swasticas are only illegal in germany if their use obviously supports nazi ideology. They are legal in e.g. art if that isnt the case. There was a case where a t-shirt manufacturer was drawn to court because he sold a shirt with a guy on it that was obviously trashing a swastica . The end resualt was that its legal if you dont support the ideology. So theres a lot of room for interpretation and therefor you are right that its easier to avoid the problem from the get go by simply letting them out if you want to sell in germany.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
It's mainly down to globalisation
Before that manufacturers tended to go for custom images/designs/names for each territory a product would be sold in
Now your image/look/name had got to work (and be legal) everywhere
and with Germany (and maybe Austria?) banning the Swastika and other Nazi iconography if you want to sell your stuff in the EU it's simpler to leave it off
(and more so if you're vaguely aware of the German Law and don't really know the specifics, it's cheaper and easier to avoid it entirely)

I'm not entirely sure that's correct - not entirely at any rate. Video games sometimes still show the swastika, though they tend to remove it for Multiplayer modes (and have for many years) which I think ties into your point. SP modes generally keep it. Artwork for books and games needs a degree of changing anyway when products are localised into various European languages. I kind of feel like it's at least as much a "political correctness (gone mad!)" thing. Something like Axis and Allies - cover art made of an image montage that gets manipulated and re-manipulated anyway went from this:



to this:



I mean, in the modern editions of a WW2 game, the Germans don't even rate a flag anymore, because it's rather hard to show one that lacks a swastika. Everyone just shows the de-Nazified version of the Iron Cross instead - which is kind of ironic in it's own way since it's a key military symbol of non-Nazi Germany - both pre and post - though obviously versions were used in Nazi Germany as well. At least the balkenkreuz is thematically correct. Anyway, we're getting a bit off-topic here, and I'm not driven by a need to have swastikas up in all my games, but after seeing those pulp magazine covers, it really stood out to me.

We put it all together in movie poster format:

No gorilla T&A?

Won't somebody ever think about the dinosaurs?

Everyone seems to gloss over their heroic exploits during the War.

It's always Nazi zombie this, power armor that... what of the heroic La Resistance des dinosaures in Paris? Or the 51st Dromeosaurs and their big push into Poland? Or when Theropodengruppe 3 rebelled and ate their commanding officers?

Someone needs to help raise awareness of our scaled and feathered brethren who gave their lives for a just cause.

"Won't somebody ever think about the dinosaurs?

Everyone seems to gloss over their heroic exploits during the War.

It's always Nazi zombie this, power armor that... what of the heroic La Resistance des dinosaures in Paris? Or the 51st Dromeosaurs and their big push into Poland? Or when Theropodengruppe 3 rebelled and ate their commanding officers?"

Someone needs to help raise awareness of our scaled and feathered brethren who gave their lives for a just cause.



there is such a game actually - called Eat Hitler which you can get from wargames vault and was featured in wargames illustrated 227 - work blocked so can't get link in here

it allows you to use your collection of dinos to try and eat Hitler and his "friends" who've travelled through a portal iirc to try and escape the end of the war

Well damn. Guess we'll be eating Hitler then when we get home. I'll have to check that link out. I'm assuming we can use any old dinosaur. Hopefully scale isn't a huge issue.

Some day I hope someone sculpts up some semi anthromorphic dinosaur commandos. I don't even care who they fight for. I guess the Allies could use them since the Germans seem to have the market cornered on fighting simians.

I'll probably have to settle for Acthung! Cthulhu's Deep one commandos to satisfy my scaled soldier desires.