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 djphranq wrote:
Someone please elaborate on the problem w/ plastic glue.

Edit: I just looked it up... crap...

*takes a saw to the hurricane bolters of a land raider crusader*

Where did you look it up? What's the problem with plastic glue?

It fuses the plastic together. Too much of it tends to convert whatever it touches to Nurgle.

theres a surprisingly large amount of people that have no craft talent whatsoever. Im curious wth they did as a kid since assembling most of the 40k models is as easy as little kid projects (some exceptions obviously). My artistic outlet growing up was a pencil, i never assembled or painted any models before and i never had some of the problems i see when i buy 2nd hand ebay models lol.

Bought 5 Crisis Suits and the old Farsight model for about 70bucks with shipping. I literally had to cut the feet, arms, and heads off because they looked like a whole tube of superglue held each one on and the paint looked like liquid greenstuff slop. Three weeks in a simple green sea didnt help one bit getting that paint off lol. To top it off, some of them had bases that were molded to have a hill effect...with super glue rofl. I just threw them away, some with the feet stuck to it because it was halfway up the "toes" of the suit with glue lol

rothrich wrote:
. Guys with beyonetts on their guns had bayonets in their holsters. ?

Dude, why doesn't anyone know the difference between a gun, and a rifle? Only chaos would put a bayonet on a gun
Lasgun = rifle. Demolisher=gun.

Ok, back on topic.

Because.

I have a friend's set of chaos WHFB soldiers and half of them have either two left arms or two right arms...not sure how he pulled that off

I don't see a problem with that, the chaos gods have done weirder things to their follower's arms.

 Insurgency Walker wrote:

rothrich wrote:
. Guys with beyonetts on their guns had bayonets in their holsters. ?

Dude, why doesn't anyone know the difference between a gun, and a rifle? Only chaos would put a bayonet on a gun
Lasgun = rifle. Demolisher=gun.

Ok, back on topic.

Because.

I highly doubt that lasguns have rifled barrels.
A) because they're firing light, so it would be pointless.
B) because it would add to production costs, and lasguns are supposed to be cheap.

Also you are technically incorrect anyway, because a rifle is a gun. (but obviously not all guns are rifles)

rothrich wrote:
So I got some imperial guardsmen in a trade. They were in absolutely the west condition imaginable. The painting was terrible, no mold lines were removed, and they were slapped together with no attention to detail. Guys with beyonetts on their guns had bayonets in their holsters. Packs were glued in all kinds of crazy places etc. The question is why bother with 40k if you are going to take expensive models and just ruin them like that. There are plenty of other games like 40k with much cheaper models and even pre painted models. So why would you bother with 40k?

You mean like this?

Those still look better than mine...

Tactical_Genius wrote:

 Insurgency Walker wrote:

rothrich wrote:
. Guys with beyonetts on their guns had bayonets in their holsters. ?

Dude, why doesn't anyone know the difference between a gun, and a rifle? Only chaos would put a bayonet on a gun
Lasgun = rifle. Demolisher=gun.

Ok, back on topic.

Because.

I highly doubt that lasguns have rifled barrels.
A) because they're firing light, so it would be pointless.
B) because it would add to production costs, and lasguns are supposed to be cheap.

Also you are technically incorrect anyway, because a rifle is a gun. (but obviously not all guns are rifles)

It's a joke. Mostly. Because in the us military a lasgun would be classified as a small arm and not a gun. guns are crew served and used to start at the crew served machine gun. Watch full metal jacket......... or don't. I never liked the movie myself
And Lasguns, are rifled! What do you think focuses the light!
Another joke.
But I think I will put a bayonet on an AC for kicks, because that is what I imagined when I read that line about bayonets on guns.

 Insurgency Walker wrote:

Tactical_Genius wrote:

 Insurgency Walker wrote:

rothrich wrote:
. Guys with beyonetts on their guns had bayonets in their holsters. ?

Dude, why doesn't anyone know the difference between a gun, and a rifle? Only chaos would put a bayonet on a gun
Lasgun = rifle. Demolisher=gun.

Ok, back on topic.

Because.

I highly doubt that lasguns have rifled barrels.
A) because they're firing light, so it would be pointless.
B) because it would add to production costs, and lasguns are supposed to be cheap.

Also you are technically incorrect anyway, because a rifle is a gun. (but obviously not all guns are rifles)

It's a joke. Mostly. Because in the us military a lasgun would be classified as a small arm and not a gun. guns are crew served and used to start at the crew served machine gun. Watch full metal jacket......... or don't. I never liked the movie myself
And Lasguns, are rifled! What do you think focuses the light!
Another joke.
But I think I will put a bayonet on an AC for kicks, because that is what I imagined when I read that line about bayonets on guns.

Bah, the military simplify things too much... Technicalities all the way
Sorry for jumping on you, there's just I guy I know who gets really angry when people call rifles "guns" and acts like he's right about it I guess it brought back horrific memories of that small, angry Scotsman... (*rocks slowly back and forth in the corner*)

Tactical_Genius wrote:

 Insurgency Walker wrote:

Tactical_Genius wrote:

 Insurgency Walker wrote:

rothrich wrote:
. Guys with beyonetts on their guns had bayonets in their holsters. ?

Dude, why doesn't anyone know the difference between a gun, and a rifle? Only chaos would put a bayonet on a gun
Lasgun = rifle. Demolisher=gun.

Ok, back on topic.

Because.

I highly doubt that lasguns have rifled barrels.
A) because they're firing light, so it would be pointless.
B) because it would add to production costs, and lasguns are supposed to be cheap.

Also you are technically incorrect anyway, because a rifle is a gun. (but obviously not all guns are rifles)

It's a joke. Mostly. Because in the us military a lasgun would be classified as a small arm and not a gun. guns are crew served and used to start at the crew served machine gun. Watch full metal jacket......... or don't. I never liked the movie myself
And Lasguns, are rifled! What do you think focuses the light!
Another joke.
But I think I will put a bayonet on an AC for kicks, because that is what I imagined when I read that line about bayonets on guns.

Bah, the military simplify things too much... Technicalities all the way
Sorry for jumping on you, there's just I guy I know who gets really angry when people call rifles "guns" and acts like he's right about it I guess it brought back horrific memories of that small, angry Scotsman... (*rocks slowly back and forth in the corner*)

Whoa....sorry. Didn't intend to cause a pts flashback. Luckily my life has been free of small angry Scotsman.

 Brother SRM wrote:
My favorite one of these is when you get secondhand Space Marines and the grips on their bolters haven't been cut off, so you have dudes holding the grip to the bolter with the grip to the bolter resting on top of the hand that is already holding, you guessed it, the grip to a bolter.

And, naturally, the worse assembly you're seeing, the better chance there is that it was put together with plastic glue. Not saying people who use plastic glue are bad at assembly, but most poorly assembled models I've gotten were assembled with it.

I always use plastic glue when assembling plastic models. I kind of prefer it that when I drop one to the floor my plastic models don't shatter into all their component pieces because the plastic cement melds them together. Of course I also don't build my models like you describe above either. If I buy second hand plastic models I expect to not be able to take them apart and expect modifications to involve cutting, but when gluing the modications in place with more plastic cement they are just as strong as if they had been original parts...

I do think back to my eariler model days and models covered in gobs of glue, paint thrown on in clumps and parts broken and glued together because I was too impatient to cut them off the sprues and clean them carefully. Glad to know from reading the original post that I am not the only one who is so anal these days as to make sure if the bayonet is on the lasgun that there isn't one on the belt too.

Skriker

Ive come across leman russes and other guardsmen that were in such bad condition it costed a bit just to refix the units but like others mentioned not everyone knows what to look for in the beginning. But if you stick with the hobby you eventually learn from mistakes and seeing other models and you improve. Since I started almost 2 years ago Ive repainted half my infantry that looked bad and because I want my russes to look the best, Ive repainted each one maybe 2 times(yes its a lot but im kinda a perfectionist and I love tanks)

I actually kinda love finding fethed up models and refurbishing them. I can get a good deal on them on bartertown, and with a bit of time, effort, and love, get terrible models looking great again.

Of course, i say this meaning that i want to know up front what i'm getting into. Heh.

But yeah, sometimes people don't know any better. Sometimes it's inexperience. Sometimes people be crazy.

 conker249 wrote:
Those still look better than mine...

Mine too...

 Insurgency Walker wrote:

rothrich wrote:
. Guys with beyonetts on their guns had bayonets in their holsters. ?

Dude, why doesn't anyone know the difference between a gun, and a rifle? Only chaos would put a bayonet on a gun
Lasgun = rifle. Demolisher=gun.

Ok, back on topic.

Because.

Las GUN not lasrifel. End argument!

My red terror I bought secondhand was assembled incorrectly and arrived in pieces with lots of residual hardened superglue. However, one super clean bath later and he was stripped to the metal.

Also, a recent bid I won featured assorted termagants, hormogaunts, genestealers, and rippers, all of which were either damaged with broken pieces, had missing pieces, or oftentimes both. The army was very unloved - such a shame considering the models aren't cheap. However, the same bid also had 5 pairs of FW shrike wings, and despite the fact that some had a clipped spike or thumb, they were intact, so I shouldn't complain too much

Sometimes models are damaged just because you kinda cant help it. Most if not all of my firewarriors are missing that earpiece antenna thing because there was no way i was going to strip that crap paintjob off and not break them theyre so tiny lol.

Though when a heavier model, or at least bulkier, is damaged like an arm was snapped off or something...that makes you wonder wth they did with it lol.

I haven't actually read this thread. I saw the title and I knew I had the answer:

Answer 1)

Answer 2)


Every "why?" question can be answered with one of those two,

 Happyjew wrote:
I haven't actually read this thread. I saw the title and I knew I had the answer:

Answer 1)

Spoiler:

Why not?

Answer 2)

Spoiler:

Because you touch yourself at night/.

Every "why?" question can be answered with one of those two,

I'll attempt to use Answer 2) next time one of my bosses asks me something.

 Happyjew wrote:
I haven't actually read this thread. I saw the title and I knew I had the answer:

Answer 1)

Spoiler:

Why not?

Answer 2)

Spoiler:

Because you touch yourself at night/.

Every "why?" question can be answered with one of those two,

Almost sig-worthy...

Must... stop... exalting... random... posts...

This is why I almost never buy second hand models. As nice as it would be to save some money, they are usually no where near my standards...and my standards are fairly low!

I recently broke this rule to help out a buddy who suffers from but-its-such-a-good-deal-itis. He bought a ton of nid stuff at an auction (he doesn't play nids). I bought a fair portion of it as a bit of a favor. Once I started digging a little deeper into it, it reminded me why I steer clear of second hand stuff. Models glued together with blobs of greenstuff, globbed on paint, termigaunts with a scytal on one arm and a spinefist on the other.

I'd rather just save my money a little longer, buy a new kit, and do it right the first time.