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 d-usa wrote:

 KingCracker wrote:

 d-usa wrote:
This story is over a year old:

Created on Thursday, 06 September 2012 01:00

http://portlandtribune.com/pt/9-news/114604-schools-beat-the-drum-for-equity

Do we not have anything new to be upset about?

Clearly none of us had heard about it. Keep practicing your mini mod there D, you're working miracles.

I could have sworn that we had a thread here about it, but my search has left me empty.

The article I posted is relatively new. I didn't realize it was just restating something from a year ago.

Well, as always, people are conflating a pretty valid point about cultural inclusion with accusations of racism.

So, the effort to continually reduce the impact of the word racism continues. Good job!

 Palindrome wrote:
I don't see why americans insist on putting jam on peanut butter. I have had one (made by an american using american ingredients) and it basically tasted like a peanut butter sandwich. Why bother with the jam?

I get the impression that some people trawl the internet looking for stories simply to bait dakka with.

There is an artistry to easting a PB&J and few people realize. You need to either eat it in a certain way, or put almost twice as much jelly as you have peanut butter. If you're going with an equal amount of pb and j, then you need to eat the sandwich jelly side down so that the first thing to touch your tongue is the sweetness of the jelly before you get the overpowering feeling of that oh so delicious creamy peanut butter.

But hey, no account for taste


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 Riquende wrote:

 Seaward wrote:
British English (as opposed to proper American English)

Until you guys learn what "I could care less" actually means, you don't get to say that.

I couldn't care less what "I could care less" means

 Orlanth wrote:
Peanut butter and jelly sandwich? Yuk.

Is it now discriminatory to point out the weird stuff you eat over there, I hope not.

British commenting on food is like Nazis commenting on human rights violations.

Godwinned! My work here is done.

 Frazzled wrote:

British commenting on food is like Nazis commenting on human rights violations.

I bet you've never even eaten any spotted dick.

 Frazzled wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:
Peanut butter and jelly sandwich? Yuk.

Is it now discriminatory to point out the weird stuff you eat over there, I hope not.

British commenting on food is like Nazis commenting on human rights violations.

Godwinned! My work here is done.

Because the US has such a brilliant reputation for food...

 Steve steveson wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:
Peanut butter and jelly sandwich? Yuk.

Is it now discriminatory to point out the weird stuff you eat over there, I hope not.

British commenting on food is like Nazis commenting on human rights violations.

Godwinned! My work here is done.

Because the US has such a brilliant reputation for food...

Actually... We have quite a decent,and tasty contribution to food (3 links there).

Say what you will about America's penchant for eating gak food and eating lots of it, there are places where the food is absolutely divine.

 Steve steveson wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:
Peanut butter and jelly sandwich? Yuk.

Is it now discriminatory to point out the weird stuff you eat over there, I hope not.

British commenting on food is like Nazis commenting on human rights violations.

Godwinned! My work here is done.

Because the US has such a brilliant reputation for food...

I loved the food in America. Funnily enough the quality was way worse than here, but they make up for it in quantity. I bought a chicken sandwich in Brooklyn that was so big it took me 2 days to eat it

Yeah, we've perfected the pizza, blended Tex-mex, put BBQ on the map, and created dishes ranging from Caesar Salad to General Tso's chicken. Add in our contributions to craft beer, bourbon, and wine, and I'm pretty comfortable with our national cuisine.

 Alfndrate wrote:

Actually... We have quite a decent,and tasty contribution to food (3 links there).

Say what you will about America's penchant for eating gak food and eating lots of it, there are places where the food is absolutely divine.

I have no problem with US food, in fact I think US food is much underrated, especial "Junk" and "Fast" food, often dismissed as being worthless as it lacks the qualities that define what is considererd good fine food, and therefore unworthy. A burger, for example, can not be considered "good" no matter what goes in to it, or how good it is, through pure prejudice.

I was just throwing the comment back at Fraz as American food has a much worse image that British food.

 Polonius wrote:
Yeah, we've perfected the pizza, blended Tex-mex, put BBQ on the map, and created dishes ranging from Caesar Salad to General Tso's chicken. Add in our contributions to craft beer, bourbon, and wine, and I'm pretty comfortable with our national cuisine.

Our asados (bbq) beg to differ~



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 Steve steveson wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:
Peanut butter and jelly sandwich? Yuk.

Is it now discriminatory to point out the weird stuff you eat over there, I hope not.

British commenting on food is like Nazis commenting on human rights violations.

Godwinned! My work here is done.

Because the US has such a brilliant reputation for food...

http://youtu.be/u0lVbMOMTi0?t=4m39s

 Seaward wrote:
That would be jelly (or jam, they're often interchangeable) in the US. The top one would be Jell-o, regardless of who the gelatin manufacturer actually is.

In most cases, jam and jelly are interchangeable. However, you can't jelly your ___ in your girlfriend's ____...

 Smacks wrote:
I don't really see what this has to do with racism.

Sounds like you need to check your privilege. She has a mandatory seminar you must attend to learn why you aren't checking your privilege.

 kronk wrote:

 Seaward wrote:
That would be jelly (or jam, they're often interchangeable) in the US. The top one would be Jell-o, regardless of who the gelatin manufacturer actually is.

In most cases, jam and jelly are interchangeable. However, you can't jelly your ___ in your girlfriend's ____...

You may, but I'd advice seeing a doctor afterwards xD

 kronk wrote:

 Seaward wrote:
That would be jelly (or jam, they're often interchangeable) in the US. The top one would be Jell-o, regardless of who the gelatin manufacturer actually is.

In most cases, jam and jelly are interchangeable. However, you can't jelly your ___ in your girlfriend's ____...

Well, true, but jelly (of the petroleum based kind) might be involved in the process. Although if it is you may be doing it wrong...

And that picture of barbecue is making me really sad I skipped breakfast today!

 Dark wrote:

 Polonius wrote:
Yeah, we've perfected the pizza, blended Tex-mex, put BBQ on the map, and created dishes ranging from Caesar Salad to General Tso's chicken. Add in our contributions to craft beer, bourbon, and wine, and I'm pretty comfortable with our national cuisine.

Our asados (bbq) beg to differ~



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1) How'd that world asado championship turn out for you guys this year
2) Everything in that picture looks good except for the intestines in the front.
3) To be fair, every country could get along if we all just decided to have a giant meal of grilled meats... So much world peace.

 Alfndrate wrote:

 Dark wrote:

 Polonius wrote:
Yeah, we've perfected the pizza, blended Tex-mex, put BBQ on the map, and created dishes ranging from Caesar Salad to General Tso's chicken. Add in our contributions to craft beer, bourbon, and wine, and I'm pretty comfortable with our national cuisine.

Our asados (bbq) beg to differ~



Edited for tasty image

1) How'd that world asado championship turn out for you guys this year
2) Everything in that picture looks good except for the intestines in the front.
3) To be fair, every country could get along if we all just decided to have a giant meal of grilled meats... So much world peace.

There was world peace, until the vegan nation attacked~

Also, there's a world championship? I had no idea actually, and there's 3 preparations of intestines in that picture xD

 Steve steveson wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:
Peanut butter and jelly sandwich? Yuk.

Is it now discriminatory to point out the weird stuff you eat over there, I hope not.

British commenting on food is like Nazis commenting on human rights violations.

Godwinned! My work here is done.

Because the US has such a brilliant reputation for food...

We do actually. Chinese, German, French, Japanese, Indian, and Southern. Kicks the living gak out of eggs and beans. WHAT THE HELL IS THAT ABOMINATION????


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 Polonius wrote:
Yeah, we've perfected the pizza, blended Tex-mex, put BBQ on the map, and created dishes ranging from Caesar Salad to General Tso's chicken. Add in our contributions to craft beer, bourbon, and wine, and I'm pretty comfortable with our national cuisine.

And everclear and Southern Comfort baby!

Landed at my first connection, so I can finally comment. Man, the stupidity of some people is ridiculous. I'm not sure what the world is coming to when PB&J is considered racist. Next you'll tell me we can't decorate our school doors for Christm....oh, wait. One of my friends' moms put her foot down on that for religious reasons years ago. Carry on being offended, world. Sensitivity and stupidity will never end.

 Ahtman wrote:

 Smacks wrote:
I don't really see what this has to do with racism.

Sounds like you need to check your privilege. She has a mandatory seminar you must attend to learn why you aren't checking your privilege.

Yeah I thought the whole "white privilege" thing was a strange term. Considering yourself "privileged" for having sandwiches instead of burritos "or whatever poor underprivileged 3rd world foreigners eat" (I'm paraphrasing here) does indeed sound kind of bigoted. But that kind of implies that maybe she is the racist, and not the sandwiches.

But I wasn't really clear on whether that was the real name for the course, or something that had been made up by the blogger to sensationalize the story. I did search a little for a better source, but all I found was this picture of her:

Not a joke...

*shrug* When I see/hear a Brit criticizing American food, I'm able to just sit back and chuckle. You never want to acknowledge an obviously faulty position.

Of course American food is great. Haven't you seen how fat we are?

I’m more surprised that they are even allowed to talk about peanut butter at school. At schools in my area its consider a deadly disease that kills every child that comes within a 100 yards of it.

If you are going to immigrate to a country you can't expect everyone to start changing their lives to accommodate you.

It is not our responsibility to think of a "global" food to substitute anytime an example is needed.... it is YOUR responsibility to learn about the country you plan on living in.

 gossipmeng wrote:
If you are going to immigrate to a country you can't expect everyone to start changing their lives to accommodate you.

It is not our responsibility to think of a "global" food to substitute anytime an example is needed.... it is YOUR responsibility to learn about the country you plan on living in.

Perhaps not learn, but atl east adapt.

Cervantes in Don Quixote put a phrase in the main character's lips "donde fueres, haz lo que vieres" which can translate as "when you go somewhere strange, do as you see the locals do". It was written in 1605...

 Dark wrote:

 gossipmeng wrote:
If you are going to immigrate to a country you can't expect everyone to start changing their lives to accommodate you.

It is not our responsibility to think of a "global" food to substitute anytime an example is needed.... it is YOUR responsibility to learn about the country you plan on living in.

Perhaps not learn, but atl east adapt.

Cervantes in Don Quixote put a phrase in the main character's lips "donde fueres, haz lo que vieres" which can translate as "when you go somewhere strange, do as you see the locals do". It was written in 1605...

That is all fine and dandy if you are going somewhere, but if you are living there you better buckle up buttercup and accept that you need to make an effort.

 Smacks wrote:


So if you are teaching people from other cultures, it is a good idea to be mindful of this, instead of egocentrically yammering on about things they've never heard of.

Why? You come to our contry, you learn our customs and dont say "I dont like the way you do this, CHANGE IT IT SCARES ME" the fact that my school offers the graduation exam in spanish is just stupid IMO

 Seaward wrote:
That would be jelly (or jam, they're often interchangeable) in the US. The top one would be Jell-o, regardless of who the gelatin manufacturer actually is.

Yep, the most "proper" American term for Jam would, depending on flavor be preserves... however, that doesn't sound overly appealing sitting on a shelf (but then, neither does Marmalade to me, but it seems to move), so they changed it to jam.

The large difference between a jelly and a jam in the US... seed content, yep, I must be a fat guy to know the difference


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 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 Smacks wrote:


So if you are teaching people from other cultures, it is a good idea to be mindful of this, instead of egocentrically yammering on about things they've never heard of.

Why? You come to our contry, you learn our customs and dont say "I dont like the way you do this, CHANGE IT IT SCARES ME" the fact that my school offers the graduation exam in spanish is just stupid IMO

I completely agree with you in principle. However, as there is no document to my knowledge that has declared English to be our official language, and because we so severely cater to "special" people, we are required to offer tests in many languages other than English. Personally, it does nothing to help that student to be set up for success when they leave school as their common language skills will likely not be up to par for the American business world. Thus, they'll probably be stuck working the fry line at McDs or rolling burritos at Taco Bell or some other such mundane, and menial type job.

 Frazzled wrote:

We do actually. Chinese, German, French, Japanese, Indian, and Southern. Kicks the living gak out of eggs and beans. WHAT THE HELL IS THAT ABOMINATION????

No, you really don't. Just google "US food" or "American Food". The view of US food is that it is grease filled over sugared highly processed crap sold in vats.

This is not a correct view, but it is the reputation the US has in the rest of the world.

 gorgon wrote:
*shrug* When I see/hear a Brit criticizing American food, I'm able to just sit back and chuckle. You never want to acknowledge an obviously faulty position.

Point missed entirely, and I suspect you probably don't understand British food if I am understanding what you are saying (That British have poor food and cannot critisise the US?)