Velocity tracker - on broadsides or ritide???

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**Rawrgyle**

Since this thread is still going I dug up some old threads where we went over all this before.

Copy paste from one of those: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/566661.page#6316523

BS3 options with skyfire: AV12 (before Jink)

Iontide = str7 AP2 x3 = 1.5 hits, .5 HP lost
broadisde = str7 AP4 x4 = 3 hits, 1 HP lost
MP/MP crisis suit = str7 ap4 x4 = 2 hits, 2/3 HP lost
Skyray = awesomesauce
BurstTide (regular) str6 ap4 x8 = 4 hits 2/3 HP lost
BurstTide (nova) str6 ap4 x12= 6 hits, 1 PEN
Quad gun str7 AP4 x4 = 3hits, 1HP lost

BS 5 Quad gun = 4hits (*assuming), 1 and 1/3rd HP lost

just saying Aun'Va is saddened everytime a commander puts skyfire on a iontide. They are much better suited to anti infantry roles. EWO = good great, don't deepstrike terminators anywhere I can see them, VT = not a good choice on them, compared to any other option listed. Note the broadside up there is just a single broadside.

broadside x3 without skyfire: 12 shots = 3 and 2/3 hits, 1.22222whatever fraction that is, of a HP lost.

STILL BETTER THAN AN IONTIDE.

just saying

EDIT: Also you can get into the psycology of forceing your opponent to Jink and just look at the number of hits. Once again the iontide is not that great IF we look at more hits = more likely to cause a jink.

**Sir Arun**

Necron bakery?

**Jancoran**

Hmm. IonTide. hadn't heard it termed that way before.

I can hit multiple units with an Iontide. This, I find, to be very useful against venom spam and other spams.

**scottagain**

I don't know if I'm the only one, but I always take EWO and VT on my riptides. Not for the ion gun, but for my fusion blaster. I keep my riptides mobile to deny board space, so there isn't much room for flyers, and when needed I love to ripple fire that twin-linked melta at flyers. I take 2 riptides in that config.

I also have 1 skyray and 2 broadsides. The skyray always blows all 6 missiles on the first flyer it sees and then tries to appear inconspicuous, allowing 1-2 skyfire markerlight hits to up my broadsides to twin-linked BS 2 or 3 on any remaining flyers.

While there is no bakery in my local meta, I have never had a problem with flyers.

**Jancoran**

There is no bakery which is WHY you never had a problem with flyers. Hehehehe.

Trust me. Six flyers and those annihilation barges will make you cry in short order. Its as much shooting as a Wave Spam list at times and diffused so that its even harder to kill, plus flyers instead of ground targets. A whole LOT going right with that, if you're into the winning thing.