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 Polonius wrote:

 krazynadechukr wrote:

 Kosake wrote:
Uh, okay. Isn't there allready a superheavy transport, the crassus?

Otherwise, sounds like stuff at least some people wanted. That Veteran/Storm Trooper kit was asked for I believe

LOL, you gave me a flashback when I posted (way back when) that GW was doing a plastic Valkyrie, when FW had a resin one, and everyone said the same thing "But FW already has one..."...

Anyways, what of the new guard codex portion of the rumors? anything?

Well, they've stopped porting FW stuff directly into Codices, so anything new will be actually new. So not a gorgon or crassus, but something different.

Of course, the FW transports are all superheavies, and this sounds more like a 4HP Landraider/Battlewagon equivalent. Dont' forget, BWs can carry 20 models, meaning they could haul 10 ogryn.

A "new" model called Corgon or Grassus then!

Of course there superheavies *cough, knights* and GW wouldn't release * cough, knights* a model with HPs into a normal *cough, knights* game...

The leviathan was just a joke on my part, but it would be hilarious if GW puts out a Leviathan and tries to claim the name to stick it to Dreamforge Games with their Leviathans I'm sure GW legal is advising to procede with the plan

 krazynadechukr wrote:

 Polonius wrote:

 krazynadechukr wrote:

 Kosake wrote:
Uh, okay. Isn't there allready a superheavy transport, the crassus?

Otherwise, sounds like stuff at least some people wanted. That Veteran/Storm Trooper kit was asked for I believe

LOL, you gave me a flashback when I posted (way back when) that GW was doing a plastic Valkyrie, when FW had a resin one, and everyone said the same thing "But FW already has one..."...

Anyways, what of the new guard codex portion of the rumors? anything?

Well, they've stopped porting FW stuff directly into Codices, so anything new will be actually new. So not a gorgon or crassus, but something different.

Of course, the FW transports are all superheavies, and this sounds more like a 4HP Landraider/Battlewagon equivalent. Dont' forget, BWs can carry 20 models, meaning they could haul 10 ogryn.

A "new" model called Corgon or Grassus then!

Of course there superheavies *cough, knights* and GW wouldn't release * cough, knights* a model with HPs into a normal *cough, knights* game...

True. Are knights full on superheavies? I wasn't sure.

Still though, a heavy transport (battlewagon/Landraider class) is one of the few in theme niches that the IG are missing. Stuff like hard infantry, good assault units, jump packs, bikes/jetbikes, and MCs are all way out of theme, IMO. Wait, Grey Knights have an MC while Eldar have one of the toughest units in the game? Excuse me while I cry a bit...

Anyway, I'm back! I love the idea of a ~120pt, AV13/12/10 HP4 open topped transport.

All these people just saying Crassus.

It's CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT, get it right!

 Platuan4th wrote:
All these people just saying Crassus.

It's CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT, get it right!

I thought it was Titan CRASSUS Titan ARMOURED Titan ASSAULT Imperial Knight Titan TRANSPORT.....

It's also "knight titan" get it right people.

I was thinking Battlewagon too. If you're going to give the Imperial Guard a new chassis, an armoured truck might offer more than another intermediate tank chassis.

 HisDivineShadow wrote:
It's also "knight titan" get it right people.

If there is such a vehicle of that size released... you'll see me stocking up on Dreamforge APCs, then. Some people, including me, held back on those because they will end up being roughly Land Raider sized.

I just find it a bit sad that it seems like the grunt is being more and more pushed aside in 40K. They're almost a tax you have to pay to put everything else that is fething huge on the table.

 Brother SRM wrote:

 bubber wrote:
Just checked the GW website for any clues. The only things missing are rough riders but these might have been dropped ages ago as they didn't fit any of the other regiments stocked / modelled.

I just want more vehicles & Cadians on quad bikes.
That regiment that uses giant turkeys as mounts in one of the GG novels would also be very cool.

Chocobo riders!?

No, not Chocobos - I meant Struthids freatured in Guant's Ghosts novel Straight Silver on Aexe Cardinale.
(This is one of my favourites although the incident in the Montorq forest was upsetting.)
They're more like elephant birds, ostriches and the moa birds with a psychic link to the rider.

The question I have is if the Hydra is going to be dropped from the Codex. Granted, since it was nerfed pretty hard when 6th dropped, I don't see this as being that big of a deal. There's also the different artillery variants to be considered, as well as the Valkyrie kit having the Vendetta parts being included. These are the things that we are not really hearing anything about. IG has probably the largest number of Codex entries without models (from GW proper that is, not FW) out of any Codex.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
I just find it a bit sad that it seems like the grunt is being more and more pushed aside in 40K. They're almost a tax you have to pay to put everything else that is fething huge on the table.

While I would generally agree with you regarding the overall state of the game, if this giant IG transport rumor is true, wouldn't that be putting grunts back into focus? Being able to move platoon sized Guard units may mean platoons make a bigger come back in army lists.

As mentioned before, there are a couple of big transport options in Apocalypse & Escalation already - maybe they'll just move these in to the regular codex. As the IK can be taken in regular games the precedent has been set.

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
I just find it a bit sad that it seems like the grunt is being more and more pushed aside in 40K. They're almost a tax you have to pay to put everything else that is fething huge on the table.

While I would generally agree with you regarding the overall state of the game, if this giant IG transport rumor is true, wouldn't that be putting grunts back into focus? Being able to move platoon sized Guard units may mean platoons make a bigger come back in army lists.

It would, but it seems much more likely that it will synergize with the rumoured Ogryns/Bullgryns, especially if it has an assault ramp of some sort. I can hardly see myself assaulting with a squad of *gasp* guardsmen. Even if they all had 2 CCW. And will the large capacity address the limitations in regular 40K of only a single unit per transport? If not you have to use either said 'gryns or combined squads to make it worth your while.

Its heavy and land raider sized. That would seem to make it smaller than a Crassus or Gorgon... If I'm not mistaken. If it's a super heavy maybe so should a land raider as well as some other vehicles.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
I just find it a bit sad that it seems like the grunt is being more and more pushed aside in 40K. They're almost a tax you have to pay to put everything else that is fething huge on the table.

While I would generally agree with you regarding the overall state of the game, if this giant IG transport rumor is true, wouldn't that be putting grunts back into focus? Being able to move platoon sized Guard units may mean platoons make a bigger come back in army lists.

It would, but it seems much more likely that it will synergize with the rumoured Ogryns/Bullgryns, especially if it has an assault ramp of some sort. I can hardly see myself assaulting with a squad of *gasp* guardsmen. Even if they all had 2 CCW. And will the large capacity address the limitations in regular 40K of only a single unit per transport? If not you have to use either said 'gryns or combined squads to make it worth your while.

No doubt this rumor raises more questions than it answers, but if the transport can move platoons, then I could see myself using it quite often. Moving a platoon quickly and safely up the table would be wonderful for objective games.

Nice to see some solid looking Rumors. I'm looking foward to see the new storm troopers.
Fingers crossed...

 aka_mythos wrote:
Its heavy and land raider sized. That would seem to make it smaller than a Crassus or Gorgon... If I'm not mistaken. If it's a super heavy maybe so should a land raider as well as some other vehicles.

Big tank doesn't mean super heavy. I doubt they will make it a SH. Just a tank the size of a LR. All though I doubt the rumor is true.

 dakkajet wrote:
Nice to see some solid looking Rumors. I'm looking foward to see the new storm troopers.
Fingers crossed...

Where did you see solid rumors?

Stop holding out on us!

Oh Larry!

 Davespil wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:
Its heavy and land raider sized. That would seem to make it smaller than a Crassus or Gorgon... If I'm not mistaken. If it's a super heavy maybe so should a land raider as well as some other vehicles.

Big tank doesn't mean super heavy. I doubt they will make it a SH. Just a tank the size of a LR. All though I doubt the rumor is true.

Agreed... I had originally written something to that effect but deleted it by accident.

I think a lot of people are saying superheavy just because of Knights... But it isn't necessarily the case.

One rumor said Ogryn might be going to the larger centurion base size... This thing is suppose to hold a full squad of them. How many standard guardsmen that ends up being will be interesting to see.

If this is true it's atleast an interesting way to try to reduce chimera spamming.

 TalonZahn wrote:

 dakkajet wrote:
Nice to see some solid looking Rumors. I'm looking foward to see the new storm troopers.
Fingers crossed...

Where did you see solid rumors?

Stop holding out on us!

I meant that we haven't had anything "big" rumor wise in a few months.

I just hope they don't drop the Rough Riders.

If Forge World is still selling their Death Riders, I think Rough Riders are (sadly) still okay.

Just hope they don't hamfist it into being Cadians with fur hats riding horses or other such nonsense like motorbikes with lances. Make a proper feral looking "regiment" with lots of trophies and adornments and genetically modified Imperial Horses.

I'm hoping we'll get some kind of FOC altering characters and Stormtroopers not being sucky anymore. I would love to have a reason to break my 50 Kasrkin out of their drawer and get them all assembled, cleaned, and painted.

But why everyone is going with the Crassus, which has a rear ramp so no assault vehicle at all, when we have the way better Gorgon? =)
http://1d4chan.org/images/thumb/f/fa/GorgonPartybus.jpg/400px-GorgonPartybus.jpg

Nothing about these rumours are getting me excited.

Vintersorg wrote:
But why everyone is going with the Crassus, which has a rear ramp so no assault vehicle at all, when we have the way better Gorgon? =)
http://1d4chan.org/images/thumb/f/fa/GorgonPartybus.jpg/400px-GorgonPartybus.jpg

Because this is Dakka and the CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT is a Dakka meme staple.

Vintersorg wrote:
But why everyone is going with the Crassus, which has a rear ramp so no assault vehicle at all, when we have the way better Gorgon? =)

Probably because people realize that the Gorgon is very much a "specialist" vehicle while the Crassus is more of an "all-purpose" vehicle.

 dakkajet wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:

 dakkajet wrote:
Nice to see some solid looking Rumors. I'm looking foward to see the new storm troopers.
Fingers crossed...

Where did you see solid rumors?

Stop holding out on us!

I meant that we haven't had anything "big" rumor wise in a few months.

And TalonZahn means that listening to anything Larry Vela says is the same as asking your local psychic hobo about the next 40k release, or perhaps slightly worse.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 dakkajet wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:

 dakkajet wrote:
Nice to see some solid looking Rumors. I'm looking foward to see the new storm troopers.
Fingers crossed...

Where did you see solid rumors?

Stop holding out on us!

I meant that we haven't had anything "big" rumor wise in a few months.

And TalonZahn means that listening to anything Larry Vela says is the same as asking your local psychic hobo about the next 40k release, or perhaps slightly worse.

I asked my local psychic hobo what was coming next for 40K. He said "Plastic Thunder*hurk*" and ranted about the government chip in his teeth then vomited all over my shoes.