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2015/06/24 02:55:50
Subject: [Kickstarter] Sentinel Games - Battle for Karnak - Backers abandoned.
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PanOceaniac Hacking Specialist Sergeant
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It was 4 months late last October 2014, so its about a year now.
Reading the KS comments the creator has disappeared and apparently run for mayor of his town? Dunno if true but it sounds like a bad joke, his backers must be furious imagining he spent their KS pledges on pamphlets and electoral giveaways.
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2015/07/15 22:46:37
Subject: Re:[Kickstarter] Sentinel Games - Battle for Karnak - Backers abandoned.
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Hi!
(sorry for my engrish!)
This is Daniel Melendez, Jefe of Questron, and also, from MkUltra Studios. That extinct studios (now we've united all our departments under a one only branch) collabored in the production of "Total Extinction: Battle for Karnak". We made all the sculpts for that project long time ago, and now we are very sad seeing what's the present situation of the project.
Well, I know we don't have any fault on that, nobody is blaming anything on us... We were contracted to do a project, we were paid for it, and that's all. We aren't anything of Sentinel, not associated, not anything, we just did a freelance work almost three years ago.
The reason of this post is just that, as I said, we feel bad. Our sculpts were a good "bait" for that KS... We did a really cool job and it possible lured a lot of backers to it. So that only for that reason, we don't feel "clean" seeing that all the backers can't even play the game, because the cards and tokens for that aren't available, and seeing Sentinel's movement in the last 4 months... I don't know if it will...
Trying to make that situation more "easy" for the backers, we've resolved one procedure...
We were also contracted to do the cards, tokens and markers for the game. The illustrator was also from our studio, so the color work, and the layout work. The same for the tokens and the markers...
We have the spanish and the english version of all the cards ready to get printed, in JPG. We've decided to upload those PDFs free for everybody, but the most, for the backers of the game.
I've just wrote to Salvador (Sentinel games' GM) telling our decision, and waiting a response from him just in case he wants to stop it for any reason. Yes, I know some people wouldn't see that as a sensible movement, but after all, this stuff is property of Sentinel Games, but also is property of its backers. At least I think that way.
Althought we made it, we've been payed for it long time ago, we don't have the right to share it, but I think that this is a very special situation, and I want to hear of him (althought I tryed to contact him 4 times in the past 4 months, without any result) But I'm affraid he won't receive any response... In that case, the PDF will be uploaded and shared THIS SATURDAY.
Please, in the meanwhile, spread the word... We'll try to contact one or two backers of the KS, making know of this...
Saludos,
Daniel
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This message was edited 4 times. Last update was at 2015/08/24 03:01:55
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2015/07/16 00:16:06
Subject: [Kickstarter] Sentinel Games - Battle for Karnak - Backers abandoned.
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Camouflaged Zero
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Good on you. A Kickstarter falling apart is never a good thing, and hopefully it gets resolved to everyone's satisfaction. In the meantime, however, it's great to see that someone's at least trying to fix things.
I do hope you consider staying in this industry; your sculpts are fantastic.
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"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." -Napoleon
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2015/07/16 01:07:07
Subject: Re:[Kickstarter] Sentinel Games - Battle for Karnak - Backers abandoned.
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Dakka Veteran
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MkultraStudios wrote:Hi!
This is Daniel Melendez, Jefe of Questron, and also, from MkUltra Studios. That extinct studios (now we've united all our departments under a one only branch) collabored in the production of "Total Extinction: Battle for Karnak". We made all the sculpts for that project long time ago, and now we are very sad seeing what's the present situation of the project.
Well, I know we don't have any fault on that, nobody is blaming anything on us... We were contracted to do a project, we were paid for it, and that's all. We aren't anything of Sentinel, not associated, not anything, we just did a freelance work almost three years ago.
The reason of this post is just that, as I said, we feel bad. Our sculpts were a good "bait" for that KS... We did a really cool job and it possible lured a lot of backers to it. So that only for that reason, we don't feel "clean" seeing that all the backers can't even play the game, because the cards and tokens for that aren't available, and seeing Sentinel's movement in the last 4 months... I don't know if it will...
Trying to make that situation more "easy" for the backers, we've resolved one procedure...
We were also contracted to do the cards, tokens and markers for the game. The illustrator was also from our studio, so the color work, and the layout work. The same for the tokens and the markers...
We have the spanish and the english version of all the cards ready to get printed, in JPG. We've decided to upload those PDFs free for everybody, but the most, for the backers of the game.
I've just wrote to Salvador (Sentinel games' GM) telling our decision, and waiting a response from him just in case he wants to stop it for any reason. Yes, I know some people wouldn't see that as a sensible movement, but after all, this stuff is property of Sentinel Games. Althought we made it, we've payed for it long time ago, we don't have the right to share it, but I think that this is a very special situation, and I want to hear of him (althought I tryed to contact him 4 times in the past 4 months, without any result) But I'm affraid he won't send any response... In that case, the PDF will be uploaded and shared THIS SATURDAY.
Please, in the meanwhile, spread the word... We'll try to contact one or two backers of the KS, making know of this...
Saludos,
Daniel
That would be phenomenal. As one of the few backers who has received his models, having access to the cards would be a huge motivation to assemble, paint and play this game. This is one of the most frustrating KS's I was part of, because it had such potential that is being squandered.
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2015/07/16 07:02:20
Subject: Re:[Kickstarter] Sentinel Games - Battle for Karnak - Backers abandoned.
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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I wasn't going to say anything until they arrived, but I received a shipping notice very recently. So it seems Salvador (or someone using his account) is doing something with Sentinel Games.
I contacted him through KS a while ago to ask for just my minis.
And this is the current status of my package.
Número de envío: RF05[los numeros]6968ES
Fechas Estados
06/07/2015 Admitido
07/07/2015 Salida de la Oficina Internacional de origen
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2015/07/16 17:08:13
Subject: Re:[Kickstarter] Sentinel Games - Battle for Karnak - Backers abandoned.
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Novice Knight Errant Pilot
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MkultraStudios wrote:Hi!
(sorry for my engrish!)
This is Daniel Melendez, Jefe of Questron, and also, from MkUltra Studios. That extinct studios (now we've united all our departments under a one only branch) collabored in the production of "Total Extinction: Battle for Karnak". We made all the sculpts for that project long time ago, and now we are very sad seeing what's the present situation of the project.
Well, I know we don't have any fault on that, nobody is blaming anything on us... We were contracted to do a project, we were paid for it, and that's all. We aren't anything of Sentinel, not associated, not anything, we just did a freelance work almost three years ago.
The reason of this post is just that, as I said, we feel bad. Our sculpts were a good "bait" for that KS... We did a really cool job and it possible lured a lot of backers to it. So that only for that reason, we don't feel "clean" seeing that all the backers can't even play the game, because the cards and tokens for that aren't available, and seeing Sentinel's movement in the last 4 months... I don't know if it will...
Trying to make that situation more "easy" for the backers, we've resolved one procedure...
We were also contracted to do the cards, tokens and markers for the game. The illustrator was also from our studio, so the color work, and the layout work. The same for the tokens and the markers...
We have the spanish and the english version of all the cards ready to get printed, in JPG. We've decided to upload those PDFs free for everybody, but the most, for the backers of the game.
I've just wrote to Salvador (Sentinel games' GM) telling our decision, and waiting a response from him just in case he wants to stop it for any reason. Yes, I know some people wouldn't see that as a sensible movement, but after all, this stuff is property of Sentinel Games. Althought we made it, we've payed for it long time ago, we don't have the right to share it, but I think that this is a very special situation, and I want to hear of him (althought I tryed to contact him 4 times in the past 4 months, without any result) But I'm affraid he won't send any response... In that case, the PDF will be uploaded and shared THIS SATURDAY.
Please, in the meanwhile, spread the word... We'll try to contact one or two backers of the KS, making know of this...
Saludos,
Daniel
Hi Daniel, ive posted this over in the ks comments, to get the news out.
I'd like to thank you for taking this action and helping out the backers, we really have been left in the dark regarding this kickstarter.
Could you post your website address for your business?
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http://thelaughterofthedamned.blogspot.co.uk/
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2015/07/17 00:39:43
Subject: [Kickstarter] Sentinel Games - Battle for Karnak - Backers abandoned.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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De nada!
My webpage is at my profile but, as all the websites,it isn't updated since... I can't remember hahaha...
Anyway, you guys can check during this month wich of our works will be show at GenCon '15 clicking our FB page link. I'm very proud of my guys' work :
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Questron/441242259255914
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/07/17 00:41:05
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2015/07/18 04:45:04
Subject: Re:[Kickstarter] Sentinel Games - Battle for Karnak - Backers abandoned.
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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My package arrived. It looks like it contained everything, but I won't get to look closer or assemble the minis for a while.
The packaging is nice. The only card included was for the Glorlon Mentor. I'm not sure if the lack of squad card was an error or because I said I didn't want to wait for the complete rules. Here are two pictures.
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2015/07/18 04:46:16
Subject: Re:[Kickstarter] Sentinel Games - Battle for Karnak - Backers abandoned.
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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I said two.
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2015/07/18 21:05:51
Subject: [Kickstarter] Sentinel Games - Battle for Karnak - Backers abandoned.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Ok here it is...
Cards. Markers, templates and Beta Rules:
https://mega.nz/#!5V4CxQzT!ZzxqmISrB-0XwWQKZdX5CA_o5O_xpWwS9ss2xZVCG2M
Anyone please take this link to the KS
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2015/07/19 02:26:24
Subject: [Kickstarter] Sentinel Games - Battle for Karnak - Backers abandoned.
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Dakka Veteran
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Awesome. Thank you so much for uploading that. It's good to know that the materials to make the game complete were out there in some form.
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2015/07/19 08:53:14
Subject: [Kickstarter] Sentinel Games - Battle for Karnak - Backers abandoned.
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Fresh-Faced New User
Wandering in the Wilderness...
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Thanks for that Mk...sadly tho it doesn't work for me :(
It keeps saying Temporary Error.
Will try again later.
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2015/07/19 09:50:54
Subject: [Kickstarter] Sentinel Games - Battle for Karnak - Backers abandoned.
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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It's working now
(it looks like the host is offering a new version of their site, but just go to the original one and the download is there)
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2015/07/19 13:40:13
Subject: [Kickstarter] Sentinel Games - Battle for Karnak - Backers abandoned.
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Fresh-Faced New User
Wandering in the Wilderness...
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Ahh...it seems it doesn't like Safari. Downloaded Firefox and it seems to be working now
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2015/08/24 02:53:00
Subject: [Kickstarter] Sentinel Games - Battle for Karnak - Backers abandoned.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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New link submitted!
https://mega.nz/#!5V4CxQzT!ZzxqmISrB-0XwWQKZdX5CA_o5O_xpWwS9ss2xZVCG2M
This will be online forever
Marks, Cards and Templates ready to print, in ENG and SPANISH
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2017/06/13 06:17:43
Subject: Re:[Kickstarter] Sentinel Games - Battle for Karnak - Backers abandoned.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Hi!
Well, I think I've have wait long enough to have a "precaution-margin"...
We have a solution for all the backers, and also a good change for non-backers to get a good bunch of miniatures for a very low, low price...
Please, before making any judgement, read the "STORY" section...
Also, I have a really big petition... Please if you are a backer of the "Total Extinction" kickstarter... post this in the comments section of the crowdfunding, and please, spread the word... we want to reach as most backers as possible
And if you want to help us (backer or not) please, post the link in social networks, forums, chats...
> LINK TO SOLUTION <.
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2017/06/13 22:35:36
Subject: [Kickstarter] Sentinel Games - Battle for Karnak - Backers abandoned.
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Updated with miniature samples:
Get a sample of our work here... that way, you'll be able to know (more or less, because it depends of the size) how much would cost you to print these miniatures... to check our sculpt quality... among other things...
This kind of files can be read by Windows 10.
https://mega.nz/#!5NYUiRqa
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2017/06/29 13:05:01
Subject: Re:[Kickstarter] Sentinel Games - Battle for Karnak - Backers abandoned.
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Irked Necron Immortal
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Such a shame that this original KS did not get produced. I backed this one in a big way as I liked his long term concept of the future armies. i think it had some potential in the long run but the creator couldnt even get it off the ground.
After a year I gave up on it however I am sure some creative people who are not so dodgy will make something similar / better in the future.
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