How to beat Imperial Knights in Small games (600pts)?

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**gmaleron**

Frozocrone wrote:
It helps to know what army you're playing.

anyway the person who brings an IK to 600 is a first class TFG.

Its a Tournament meaning he is not TFG but bringing a tournament list.

**Lord Blackscale**

I think a couple LR tanks would be helpful. Prask in a punisher with a tri-plas exicutioner maybe? Throw in 2 units of vets with demolitons and a meltagun each. Just spitballing here but that should be around 600.

**NinjaJc01**

I was warned that the schools league is full of superheavies and Knights.

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SirDonlad wrote:
Swap out your tactical squad for another scout squad with sniper rifles and an ML and, as others have mentioned, put one on eigther side of the board - make him choose which unit his shield counts against!
While he's tied up thinking about that; bring the flyer in from behind against his rear AV11 - that will really bother him because i would start having concerns at that point.

Primary concern as a marine is the S8 AP3 battle cannon - it's not barrage so make sure your scouts and marines get a good cover save.
Perhaps you could drop pod the heavy bolters behind enemy lines for an easy linebreaker VP?

I'm not 100% on marine points costs, but i hope that helps!

Did you look at my list????
If so, nice research!

**skycapt44**

Knights have issues with Flyrants. 2 Flyrants in 600 pts is tough to take down. I'd run something like this if you want to be mean.

Flyrant _devourersx2, Egrubs
Flyrant _devourersx2, Egrubs

Venomthrope

Ripper- DS
Mucolid
Mucolid

**Desubot**

NinjaJc01 wrote:
I was warned that the schools league is full of superheavies and Knights.

Automatically Appended Next Post:

SirDonlad wrote:
Swap out your tactical squad for another scout squad with sniper rifles and an ML and, as others have mentioned, put one on eigther side of the board - make him choose which unit his shield counts against!
While he's tied up thinking about that; bring the flyer in from behind against his rear AV11 - that will really bother him because i would start having concerns at that point.

Primary concern as a marine is the S8 AP3 battle cannon - it's not barrage so make sure your scouts and marines get a good cover save.
Perhaps you could drop pod the heavy bolters behind enemy lines for an easy linebreaker VP?

I'm not 100% on marine points costs, but i hope that helps!

Did you look at my list????
If so, nice research!

Sooooo what do you have access to?

Also you sure they are not just psychicing you out?

**wuestenfux**

Superheavies at the 600 pt level. Sounds crazy.
Gone are the days we fought battles where tactics and skill played a major role.
Now you can hide behind your instructible super heavy.
Makes no sense.
GW sells models and units to collectors and painters, but not to gamers.

**NinjaJc01**

Thanks for the advice! I was warned by the leader of our WH club, after some advice from the local GW as we had qualified there, I do have a full squad of scouts and bikes but no meltas on the bikes. I think my list which is available here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/635890.page can deal with them, the devastators have been changed to 2 HBs, 1 ML and a plasma cannon, just for template spam!

**Desubot**

Librarian Epistolary
Scouts 5man Camo Cloaks and sniper rifles
Tactical squad 10 marines plasma cannon plasma gun
Stormtalon Lascannons
Devastator Squad 2 Rocket Launchers

Looking at what you have, you are going to be in relative trouble. as well with no REAL anti tank its gona be hard.

Focus on killing whatever is not the imperial knight and bait it into a corner or hide in a building if you can. then go for objectives.

take as many bikes as you can and skirt the crap out of it and perhaps send the Talon to do what it can against it.

Go to ground as often as needed

**Xenomancers**

You aren't winning the tourny with that list anyways. So I wouldn't be too concerned. Just go play - have fun - maybe you won't even play against the knight. You can still get lucky though. Theres a lot of other stuff thats even more impossible to kill than an IK that you can take at 600 points too. Like a dreadknight, riptide, flying daemon prince, flying hive tyrant.

**Desubot**

Xenomancers wrote:
You aren't winning the tourny with that list anyways. So I wouldn't be too concerned. Just go play - have fun - maybe you won't even play against the knight. You can still get lucky though. Theres a lot of other stuff thats even more impossible to kill than an IK that you can take at 600 points too. Like a dreadknight, riptide, flying daemon prince, flying hive tyrant.

Those things can be killed with what he has. and has a better chance than against a knight

since the knight literally invalidates 90% of his regular weapons. but yeah regardless of that Dont worry that much and have fun.

**NinjaJc01**

The list was changed as to the devastators, Might take a landspeeder with MM instead of something.

**dmthomas7**

The speeder may help. Bring dual mm for another shot for very cheap. I see two solutions to the knight problem. Either focus on it with your strong elements. If that is the plan keep him in the open so you can hit it from several sides. Otherwise lure him into the corner away from anything important and ignore him as much as possible.