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I'm a fan of the 'black knight' look that is very prevalent in WFB, but just never really got translated over into 40k that well. It's the hulking figured draped in fur cloaks and bristling with horns, silent and merciless. Vikings from the saxon point of view, alien and terrible marauders. Basically if spacewolves got all grim, and let off the leash a bit.
I also like the corrupted flesh/metal blending of the DV kits, but I like to convert my guys with a bit more 'direction' to their mutations (as khorne).
I find myself mining through a lot of WFB and beastman kits for my particular brand of "classic devil baddie" chaos.


To be honest, playing chaos is probably the best faction out of them all (even orks) to go nuts with conversions, particularly because the stock kits are so bad and may not fit your vision at all.

I am doing my war band from mostly loyalist parts. They still can look chaosy. Thanks to nature of chaos majority of Space marines, bits fit and majority of decorative bits from other factions fit as well.

Like below, majority of bits on my rubric marines are actually loyalist bits.

For my Death Guard army I did a few years back I went for the "archaic and corrupted" look, with nothing being symmetrical and having a major daemonic influence on their appearance. Resulting in this.

 The Wise Dane wrote:

So, what do you think? Am I just not a Chaos kind of guy, or is the old designs simply... Well, bad?

They are dull, which is why I have some in my chaos armies, but my chaos armies are also full of other minis filling in the blanks to keep them from looking too uniform and also very chaotic. I have tons of the old metal chaos champion figures from fantasy and they are converted into my chaos armies. Also have a large quantity of the original Rogue Trader chaos renegades figures that add even more character. An entire army made up of those old plastics is really blah...

It is most definitely not you.

Skriker

Definitely prefer the DV Chosen and the Aspiring Champion. DV and that champion are the ONLY chaos marines in my small Word Bearers force, there rest is cultists and demons.

This fits my idea of Chaos anyway- for every Chaos Marine you fight you should have had to hack through 10-50 heretics and scum on your way!

 The Wise Dane wrote:
Well I'm certainly happy to hear that I'm not mad c;

I think one of the biggest problems with Chaos Marines at the moment is, that they are so damn different from each other. Even Marines, who are very different to each other, can still be represented fairly easily without special models or parts, but with Chaos, each Legion behaves wildly different from each other, which makes it hard to get a sort of unified fluff. This is what I see in the lore, too - Everything is a bit too much "Well it could be anything and everything" - So much that it hurts the faction, I feel.

You do realise thats what makes Chaos unique as a concepte and theme?, that their are united and homogenous in the ways that makes them different and individualistics?...

Thats something that i can't stand is to have more then 3 models that looks like each others, that why everything outside orks and CSM is boring has hell IMO.

Marines have this strict code and discipline, where the Good of many comes before your own feelings and desires.

CSM doesn't, they have each their own way of doing things, of seing things, their experience will be different from each other and they will only unit and follow a strong individual that they deem worthy, or until they find better.


Marines is a well structured army, like Navy seals, Marines etc, while CSM are mercenaries with each their way of doing things, and it reflects on their apparence.

I'm reading the Talon of Horus, and without giving any spoils, there is a bit where it says the Warp does not corrupt, it just makes your desires and sins apparent, it will modify you and influence you in a way that you cannot lie about what you are, and that just when looking at you, others will see who you are and how you do things.

I think this line is very important.

Also the Major problem with CSM models is the same problem as SM models, they are anatomically wrong, try to imagine a guy in that armor when you look at a model, now try to imagine the guy without the armor, and you will see the catastrophe those models are..., and its even worse with termies armors...

 Slayer le boucher wrote:

 The Wise Dane wrote:
Well I'm certainly happy to hear that I'm not mad c;

I think one of the biggest problems with Chaos Marines at the moment is, that they are so damn different from each other. Even Marines, who are very different to each other, can still be represented fairly easily without special models or parts, but with Chaos, each Legion behaves wildly different from each other, which makes it hard to get a sort of unified fluff. This is what I see in the lore, too - Everything is a bit too much "Well it could be anything and everything" - So much that it hurts the faction, I feel.

You do realise thats what makes Chaos unique as a concepte and theme?, that their are united and homogenous in the ways that makes them different and individualistics?...

Thats something that i can't stand is to have more then 3 models that looks like each others, that why everything outside orks and CSM is boring has hell IMO.

Marines have this strict code and discipline, where the Good of many comes before your own feelings and desires.

CSM doesn't, they have each their own way of doing things, of seing things, their experience will be different from each other and they will only unit and follow a strong individual that they deem worthy, or until they find better.


Marines is a well structured army, like Navy seals, Marines etc, while CSM are mercenaries with each their way of doing things, and it reflects on their apparence.

I'm reading the Talon of Horus, and without giving any spoils, there is a bit where it says the Warp does not corrupt, it just makes your desires and sins apparent, it will modify you and influence you in a way that you cannot lie about what you are, and that just when looking at you, others will see who you are and how you do things.

I think this line is very important.

Also the Major problem with CSM models is the same problem as SM models, they are anatomically wrong, try to imagine a guy in that armor when you look at a model, now try to imagine the guy without the armor, and you will see the catastrophe those models are..., and its even worse with termies armors...

Exalted. Personally I like both the spiky suits and the newer, organic look. They simply provide a different aesthetic, neither one being 'wrong.'

This is the problem GW needs to address in the next CSM codex. Chaos is so many different things and GW say's our codex is meant to represent them all, while in fact it represents none of them. The Chaos force it arguably came closest to representing was Black Legion, but they apparently needed a supplement.