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18th Sept for Indys, according to my local.

My FLGS let me pre order the game for 25% discount as a Force Friday special offer. Looking forward to getting my hands on it.

Just picked mine up. Stoked.

I got 1 at lunch today - Target was picking clean of almost all Force Awakens stuff. The only thing left was Legos and this xwing starter box - They had a $10 discount on $50 of Star wars stuff (excluding legos) and $25 on $100. Still couldn't see myself buying two starters. I really don't need that many of those ships that badly.

Do you think that this will replace the current starter set? Because if so, I might want to pick one up before they're all gone.

Azeroth wrote:
I got 1 at lunch today - Target was picking clean of almost all Force Awakens stuff. The only thing left was Legos and this xwing starter box - They had a $10 discount on $50 of Star wars stuff (excluding legos) and $25 on $100. Still couldn't see myself buying two starters. I really don't need that many of those ships that badly.

Yeah I used that discount... I just grabbed a Kylo Ren bobble head for my desk and that was enough to push me over the $50 mark.

I doubt they'd eliminate the old starter. They'd have to come out with something new for the cards and pilots that are only in the original stater box. Very Doubtful.

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:

Azeroth wrote:
I got 1 at lunch today - Target was picking clean of almost all Force Awakens stuff. The only thing left was Legos and this xwing starter box - They had a $10 discount on $50 of Star wars stuff (excluding legos) and $25 on $100. Still couldn't see myself buying two starters. I really don't need that many of those ships that badly.

Yeah I used that discount... I just grabbed a Kylo Ren bobble head for my desk and that was enough to push me over the $50 mark.

I really wanted a Captain Phasma and Kylo Ren action figure, but I guess those went quick. Settled on just getting a 2nd core set instead to get me over the mark into discount land.

Jealous of you guys that are getting it. NZ is rumoured to get the first signs of it late October/November so its going to be a long wait, if not longer since they'll probably want to sell off all of the old starters before considering getting this one in.

My wife surprised me with the new starter when I got home from work. She works at Barnes and Nobles where she bought it. I'm quite excited!

 MWHistorian wrote:
My wife surprised me with the new starter when I got home from work. She works at Barnes and Nobles where she bought it. I'm quite excited!

Strong contender for wife of the year

I just picked up a starter set from Target. There are still sets to be had. I think I'm more excited about the red TIE cockpits than I have any right to be- and I've taken to calling them Redeyes.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Target, you mean the store chain that closed all across Canada a few months back? 0_o

Must be nice to have those around.

Wouldn't have matter if Target didn't close in Canada. Target Canada wouldn't have carried it anyway. The reason why Target failed in Canada was because it wasn't the Target in USA. For what ever reason our Target didn't carry the same stuff USA Target carried. We wouldn't have had it in Canada even if Target didn't close. Target Canada never carried to my knowledge X-wing or any games that Target USA carried.

i just nabbed the last one at the Manhattan Beach Target...
that place looked like a hurricane hit the Star Wars section...
it may be a posh town, but people still went crazy on Force Friday...
that Chewie plushie looks right at home in the passenger seat of a Ferrari...

as someone who has never bought into any pre-painted plastics, as i was never impressed by what i saw, these little ships look pretty damn good...
they still need a few touch-ups and extra details, but FFG has done a nice job with these miniatures...

i love the new Tie-Fighter scheme!!!
blue on the X-Wing is cool, too...

cheers
jah

So I can see that the new Xwing is well worth it's points increase over its predecessor- is the TIE f/o simply a hardier sidegrade? Except for Omega, it seems kind of wasteful to go Target Lock with a 2 firepower ship, and bringing the 8 TIE instead of shielding all 6 of your TIE f/o's seems like a better option for a swarm. What sort of list will they thrive in?

 Gitzbitah wrote:
So I can see that the new Xwing is well worth it's points increase over its predecessor- is the TIE f/o simply a hardier sidegrade? Except for Omega, it seems kind of wasteful to go Target Lock with a 2 firepower ship, and bringing the 8 TIE instead of shielding all 6 of your TIE f/o's seems like a better option for a swarm. What sort of list will they thrive in?

I do agree that the TIE/fo is a a sidegrade for the most part. That extra shield is pretty nice on a 3 Agility ship, but the target lock is only a minimal benefit. They also got access to distance 2 SLoops and green 2 Turns (not to be underestimated in a dogfight), as well as the tech slot (which might prove very useful in the future).

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Outside of paint scheme, I see absolutely zero difference.

Go to my gallery and zoom in.

The surface of the cockpit ball is different, the rear is different, inside wing brace is different.

Also the guns are different and the solar panels are smaller on the TIE/FO compared to the TIE/LN.

 DanielBeaver wrote:

 Gitzbitah wrote:
So I can see that the new Xwing is well worth it's points increase over its predecessor- is the TIE f/o simply a hardier sidegrade? Except for Omega, it seems kind of wasteful to go Target Lock with a 2 firepower ship, and bringing the 8 TIE instead of shielding all 6 of your TIE f/o's seems like a better option for a swarm. What sort of list will they thrive in?

I do agree that the TIE/fo is a a sidegrade for the most part. That extra shield is pretty nice on a 3 Agility ship, but the target lock is only a minimal benefit. They also got access to distance 2 SLoops and green 2 Turns (not to be underestimated in a dogfight), as well as the tech slot (which might prove very useful in the future).

I think that the ability to acquire a target lock will probably come into play with upcoming Tech upgrades.

Comparing the Basic TIE/FO to the Academy Pilot, the FO is 33% more durable, for only 25% more points, plus has a better shield/hull ratio. The downside here is that the F/O is more susceptible to focused fire, and the extra hit can disappear to rolls that would just be overkill on the Academy Pilot. The F/O is less offensive for the points, since you can't afford as many ships. However, it does have the advantage of being able to store a target lock on turns where you don't have another action to take. The F/O trades the 3+5 Kturn for a 4-K turn and a pair of 2-speed S-loops, as well as green 1's. So the F/O is more mobile, but there will be one less fighter for your opponent to track. The F/O also has better upgrade potential with the tech slot. Not useful yet, but if we see something along the line of Inertial Dampeners, Crack Shot or Lightning Reflexes in the tech slot (One use, but cheap and powerful), it could easily become an important consideration.

I think that the F/O will be a viable option next to the Academy Pilot, depending on how you answer the following questions:

1) Is there a better place to spend points?
2) Is having better goons worth having fewer goons?

I know we are all assuming that the two other unreleased items will be singles of the t-70 and tie/fo. Have we heard any confirmation of that though?
I am so tempted to go to my local Target to see if they have any starters..but I have already pre-ordered 2 from my FLGS and I am sure I will not need 3 of them.

Single T-70 and Tie/FO make the most sense.
While 2 starters and 1 of the singles makes a lot of sense, I'm just not excited to spend that much right now. I'm still behind on my wave 7 purchases and I'm too hyped for wave 8 to really enjoy this.

 Nicorex wrote:
I know we are all assuming that the two other unreleased items will be singles of the t-70 and tie/fo. Have we heard any confirmation of that though?
I am so tempted to go to my local Target to see if they have any starters..but I have already pre-ordered 2 from my FLGS and I am sure I will not need 3 of them.

4 T70 X-Wings is a thing. Trust me.

I think that one new starter is enough. There are only 5 upgrade cards in it and none that you need multiples of. I'd just wait on the individual ships and see what they come with first before buying a second starter.

Yeah, but a 2nd $40 starter is a cheaper way to get 3 ships than 3 $15 ships.

Depends if you want more of both factions, though.

The TIE/fo strikes me as so-so for the lower level pilots. For the better ones - Omega Squadron - they look very tasty. An Omega Squadron Pilot can use Push The Limit as readily as a TIE interceptor, with hard turns to clear stress, and the segnor is definitely better than a 3K

chaos0xomega wrote:
Yeah, but a 2nd $40 starter is a cheaper way to get 3 ships than 3 $15 ships.

True, you save $5, but I've guessing that the individual blisters are going to come with more cards that you'd actually want. Not to mention, how many copies of these ships does anyone really need? This isn't like when the game first came out and you really didn't have many choices. I play mostly imperial and outside of the two in the starter and one blister, I doubt I'm going to buy more. Even on the rebel side, the x-wings are better, but more expensive. Someone mentioned running 4 of them, but I can't see ever using more than 2 (unless the blister has some outstanding pilot abilities).

 derek wrote:

 Nicorex wrote:
I know we are all assuming that the two other unreleased items will be singles of the t-70 and tie/fo. Have we heard any confirmation of that though?
I am so tempted to go to my local Target to see if they have any starters..but I have already pre-ordered 2 from my FLGS and I am sure I will not need 3 of them.

4 T70 X-Wings is a thing. Trust me.

I agree... 4 T-70's will be a good list, they have the maneuverability to play with the Twin Laser Cannons that are going to be the focus of the meta (Getting inside range 1). And they have enough hull and shield to take a round or two of shooting without much trouble.

I'm not sure if the TIE/FO will lend itself to swarm though... I don't think that the Target Lock or Signor's Loop will really benefit anything at the low PS end of the spectrum. They may be decent in a mini-swarm.
If I was buying today, I'd buy 2 of the cores, 2 T-70's and 1 TIE/FO. But I'm not buying today... and we aren't even sure that the 'missing' SKU's are the T-70 and TIE/FO clamshells. I can't imagine what else they would be.

The two missing SKUs could be aces with the T-65 fix and another T-70 X-wing plus more goodies.

Logically, the two missing SKUs are a T-70 and TIE/FO blister, dont know why you would think that they would be anything else.

The only reason that I have to doubt that they are the T-70 and the TIE/FO blister packs is that our FLGS retailers should have info/be able to order them by now. They were able to order the starters last Friday, with shipping next week. Even if they aren't yet available do to shipping problems, why not announce them? They are likely to arrive way before Wave 8 (to coincide with the movie.)

The Missing SKUs SHOULD be those ships, but we haven't been anything about them yet. It seems strange to have this core set 'in the wild' without the supporting product for any length of time. This seems like either poor planning on FFG's part or there is some secret spoilers in the blister product that they can't/don't want known yet.