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@whalemusic360 -

I just tested the links on the AdeptiCon hotel page, these links take you to the AdeptiCon registration page for each hotel, and they are displaying the correct rates.

http://www.adepticon.org/?page_id=11

The issue at the moment is block availability on a particular night. Ie: Marriott Residence Inn only has block availability for Fri/Sat night, meaning that the other nights have sold out of the block allocation.

Calling directly sometimes will allow them to exceed the committed block amount, but that is up to each hotel.

We will be looking at ways to add more block nights, and additional hotel options.

-Hank

Ah, yeah. Might be good to update to the group rate links in the OP. Rooms are also sold out for at least some of the times at alt locations though. Hopefully more open up, either at these locations or elsewhere.

Hey guys, I just booked mine at the Embassy Suites, its a five minute walk from there to the Conference Center. You can book online, just put in ADC for the group code. Was 127 a night, booked from 23 to 26 comes out to 435 total for three nights. You can save some money as well, since they offer a free breakfast, an actual breakfast, not just fruit and some donuts like some hotels do.

Just go to the Hotel Info page on the Adepticon web site to see any other info you might need.

I'm looking forward to this again, third year going.

Are the events posted yet? If not, when do they usually get posted?

The AdeptiCon web cart will go live in November.

Additional Thurs, Fri, Sat and Sun nights have been added to the main hotel block. We are still working on options for Wednesday night.

AdeptiCon 2017 Event Submission is now open to the public: http://www.adepticon.org/?p=10708 . If you are interested in running an event, please take the time to look over the form and get it submitted as soon as possible. Some things to keep in mind:

*Space and schedules are limited. Events that are new to AdeptiCon should be scaled appropriately to justify inclusion in the schedule based on space required and realistic attendance expectations. AdeptiCon will work with you to properly scale your event.

*AdeptiCon reserves the right to refuse any event submission due to content or schedule/space saturation.

*All required fields MUST BE fully completed when submitting this form. Incomplete submissions or submissions with placeholders will not be accepted.

*Spell check your event descriptions!

*Event Submission will close at 5PM CDT on October 7th, 2016.

*You will receive an email after the schedule has been resolved in late October with your scheduling details.

If you have any questions, please get in touch: http://www.adepticon.org/?page_id=5

One week to go for Event Submission.

Thanks for working on opening up some additional rooms, I was able to grab the one I needed

Event catalog is up: http://www.cvent.com/events/adepticon-2017/event-summary-2d340c75da4a4db9b294e1de9e02b44c.aspx

Looks like GW will be there in force.

Yeah they are, even have a few seminars they are teaching. I'm curious if they will have more then just FW there, would be cool if Black Library was there again, they came to one a few years back.

I remember there being authors at the last Adepticon at the Westin 4 years ago (or am I mixing hotels?)

No, I believe you are right, that was my first Adepticon, and I do remember that, didn't know it at the time, or I would have gotten some books signed.

I wish the AoS GT was Thursday/Friday. I'd rather play in that than the 40k stuff other then the TT. But I'll probably play in the 3 game rtt they have at least.

So a small concern -

I was on the website, my cart was full and contained a VIG upgrade. I go to checkout, and I am told that the VIG is no longer allowed as it is over capacity. I ended up having to back out and redo the entire registration because it would not let me check out. This happened to another friend of mine and when he backed out, he lost the ticket to the 40k Gentleman's tournament because it also became sold out.

Is there a reason a VIG upgrade was not saved for us when we clicked and added the token to my account?

Yeah, that happened to me too. I'm a bit annoyed by that. When I grabbed it there were like 160 left.

I went through that last year. Tell your friend to email Adepticon to get on the wait list

So if we registered for the waitlist for an event who do we contact to see where we're at or the odds of us getting into an event?

@Hulksmash

Each waitlist instance is time stamped and when a ticket for a waitlisted event becomes available the next person on the list is offered the ticket and has five days to respond before the time moves to the next spot on the list.

Right now there is still a lot of cart activity with new registrations and modifications. So once the cart settles out and we make any determination about additional slots for popular events. We will take a look at manually publishing wait lists for the larger events.

@Registration

We continue to look at ways to improve registration and Cvent is a market leader in event management platforms. No registration system is perfect and we have a list of improvements that we are actively working with them to incorporate into the next build. But part of the issue is frankly, the demand far exceeds the supply. We had an increase of 45% in 2017, over the same 3 hour period when compared with 2016. Our Horus Heresy events, for example have as many on the wait list as we had available slots. The same can be said for a number of events and seminars that sold out in minutes. We certainly are aware of the issues and frustration associated with missing out on events, or processes that then delay the execution of the webcart compounding the problem. These are the sort of processes that we are working to solution.

-Hank

Thanks for the reply Hank. I'm just sad that I missed VIG for the first time since you started offering it. And annoyed that the system allows you to pick something and doesn't pull it out of the system. Oh well.

Formats for 40k Champs and a few others are up:

http://www.cvent.com/events/adepticon-2017/custom-19-2d340c75da4a4db9b294e1de9e02b44c.aspx

Only 2 detachments in 40k champs so I gotta come up with a new army. And no Death from the Skies (good) and no new psychic powers from Angels of Death or Traitor's Hate (wow). And every mission will have Eternal War, Maelstrom, and Kill Points components.

And this is worth quoting in full:

No Quarter: If illegal units or rules violations are found in a player's list, that player will be disqualified and removed
from all subsequent play and forfeit eligibility for any awards. Please note, sanctions will be applied in the round the
list issue is discovered. Players have a responsibility to notify judges of list discrepancies and previous round results
will not be altered. Please use the feedback form on the AdeptiCon 2017 website to ask any questions you or your
club may have regarding rules issues or legal units in advance!

I actually don't like the automatic "that player will be... removed from all subsequent play". Why not just disqualify them, but let them continue?

The scenario I'm asking about isn't the one that happened last year, where a top table player had a list error... but one that is much more likely to come up, that of a player not in the running having a list error. Should the wording be adjusted to allow them to continue to play with a legal list, just forfeiting all chance at prizes?

 RiTides wrote:
I actually don't like the automatic "that player will be... removed from all subsequent play". Why not just disqualify them, but let them continue?

The scenario I'm asking about isn't the one that happened last year, where a top table player had a list error... but one that is much more likely to come up, that of a player not in the running having a list error. Should the wording be adjusted to allow them to continue to play with a legal list, just forfeiting all chance at prizes?

Strength of schedule is apparently being used in determining a winner. When you have players with the same W-L record, then other victory conditions have to be used such as most Objectives Secured, most VP's, etc. One of those victory conditions, and one that many other game systems use, is the strength of schedule system. In this victory condition, not only is the W/L record of the player is considered, but the W/L record of all his opponents as well. The idea being that a player who faces tough opponents (high W/L records) and wins is a better player then one that has faced less capable opponents (low W/L records).

Allowing a "cheater" to continue in a tournament using strength of schedule throws the entire system off. Tournaments usually change the strength of schedule for all opponents who faced such a player to a tie condition- better then a loss, but worse then a win. It boosts your overall standing, but kicks you out of contention for the "winners" bracket.

If tournaments adjust SoS from someone who faced an illegal list anyway, then I don't see how letting them continue (but be ineligible for prizes) would cause them to have to do much differently.

But with how complicated lists can be now, having a player not in the running for prizes be unable to continue playing their games because of a list error sounds too harsh to me. Just eliminating them from prize consideration, and possibly adjusting SoS as you point out, should be enough. Any chance this could be reviewed or at least allow for TO discretion?

 Hulksmash wrote:
Thanks for the reply Hank. I'm just sad that I missed VIG for the first time since you started offering it. And annoyed that the system allows you to pick something and doesn't pull it out of the system. Oh well.

Glad someone ran into the same issue. I hovered over the web page, but was out of town so I had to sign-up using my iPhone, which as you can imagine took a lot longer. I want to say over 200 VIGs were left when I hit the page, and were sold out before I got done.

I think a future strategy would be to simply sign up for ViG, and any other events you think will sellout immediately, and then once you have completed that, go back and modify your schedule at your leisure.

 axisofentropy wrote:


Only 2 detachments in 40k champs so I gotta come up with a new army. And no Death from the Skies (good) and no new psychic powers from Angels of Death or Traitor's Hate (wow). And every mission will have Eternal War, Maelstrom, and Kill Points components.

Last year was my first taste of the championship, so I showed up with a fluffy list to simply get stomped on. How many detachments was the maximum then? Yeah, I find not using the psychic powers to be a bit of a blow, especially if Tzeentch players are going to have access to the Wrath of Magnus.

TheArmorOfContempt wrote:


I think a future strategy would be to simply sign up for ViG, and any other events you think will sellout immediately, and then once you have completed that, go back and modify your schedule at your leisure.

this is exactly what I did and I got ViG and into the GW Duncan and Rules Writing sessions.

TheArmorOfContempt wrote:

Last year was my first taste of the championship, so I showed up with a fluffy list to simply get stomped on. How many detachments was the maximum then? Yeah, I find not using the psychic powers to be a bit of a blow, especially if Tzeentch players are going to have access to the Wrath of Magnus.

No limit to number of detachments in 2016. The winning deathstar list had 5 detachments. Limiting to two detachments makes space marine superfriends deathstars much less viable but there's plenty of other shenanigans available. We'll see if they include the ITC Invisibility nerf in their FAQ or not.

Of course, the Adepticon 40k Champs will always be a very competitive event. There are other Adepticon events better suited for fluffy armies.

 axisofentropy wrote:
this is exactly what I did and I got ViG and into the GW Duncan and Rules Writing sessions.

No limit to number of detachments in 2016. The winning deathstar list had 5 detachments. Limiting to two detachments makes space marine superfriends deathstars much less viable but there's plenty of other shenanigans available. We'll see if they include the ITC Invisibility nerf in their FAQ or not.

Of course, the Adepticon 40k Champs will always be a very competitive event. There are other Adepticon events better suited for fluffy armies.

Yeah, I had to settle for the Q&A, because talk time with Duncan on Sunday had filled. I also had to go waitlist for Zone Mortalis #2, which was a downer considering how many ZM events they had last year.

Losing AoD powers and having Invisibility changed might cause me to make some big changes to my list.

I would have liked to do the AoS Generals thing but that filled up so fast :( Any chance they might get a bigger space and more seats? Probably not.

Anyone know what size boards the AoS Vanguard events will be played on? I'll be doing a different list if it's 4x4 as opposed to 4x6.

Requizen wrote:
I would have liked to do the AoS Generals thing but that filled up so fast :( Any chance they might get a bigger space and more seats? Probably not.

I was just talking to one of the organizers yesterday (Greg, Inquisitor_Malice on Dakka) and he said they'll be reviewing wait lists in January and possibly adjusting the size of some events to meet demand. So, people should Definitely sign up for events they're interested in even if they're full! We need to get the word out about this, I had no idea but it makes complete sense

Requizen wrote:
I would have liked to do the AoS Generals thing but that filled up so fast :( Any chance they might get a bigger space and more seats? Probably not.

Make sure you put your name on the wait list. I was on 4 event wait lists last year and got into all of them.

While I don't like their registration system, I do like that they do their best to get you into events.